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I have no idea Wes. I only know what he says when someone posts it here.

I seriously doubt that what he says will determine what happens. I know you feel the same.

I thought you looked at his facepage occasionally, my mistake. I don't pay much attention to him but as Ian noted, it might jump to a snowstorm this time as much as the GFS has been jumping around.

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No...he is detailing what the euro is showing...rain here but a big Eastern Ky/Oh snow.....

I take it you're buying this run of the euro Wes?

Who knows, i think a run with the low west of us still makes the most sense but much depends on what happens to the clipper and what impact it has on the trough/vortex near the maritimes. It has had a bigger impact on the GFS than the euro. While I think a inland track makes more sense right now, the mean pattrn shown on the D+8 super ens mean is a pretty good one so it is not a clear as I thought yesterday.

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Who knows, i think a run with the low west of us still makes the most sense but much depends on what happens to the clipper and what impact it has on the trough/vortex near the maritimes. It has had a bigger impact on the GFS than the euro. While I think a inland track makes more sense right now, the mean pattrn shown on the D+8 super ens mean is a pretty good one so it is not a clear as I thought yesterday.

It has to be tough when these things start showing so far in advance like this one did....glad I'm just a weenie and not a forecaster. Hope the shopping was fruitful

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC

212 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

MDZ501-VAZ503-WVZ501-503-505-210315-

/O.CAN.KLWX.WS.W.0008.121221T0600Z-121222T2300Z/

/O.NEW.KLWX.BZ.W.0002.121221T0600Z-121222T2300Z/

EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-WESTERN HIGHLAND-WESTERN GRANT-

WESTERN MINERAL-WESTERN PENDLETON-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FROSTBURG...HIGHTOWN...BAYARD...

MOUNT STORM...ELK GARDEN...CIRCLEVILLE

212 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EST

SATURDAY...

...WINTER STORM WARNING IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS

ISSUED A BLIZZARD WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM FRIDAY

TO 6 PM EST SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORM WARNING HAS BEEN

CANCELLED.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW...HEAVY AND BLOWING AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...8 TO 14 INCHES. HIGHEST AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED

ALONG THE HIGHEST TERRAIN...ESPECIALLY ABOVE 2500 FT.

* TIMING...LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY. THE ONSET OF SNOW

IS EXPECTED THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH THE WORST CONDITIONS LIKELY

FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND FRIDAY NIGHT...THEN TAPERING OFF SATURDAY.

* TEMPERATURES...HIGHS IN THE UPPER 20S. LOWS IN THE UPPER TEENS

TO LOWER 20S.

* WINDS...WEST 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH OVERNIGHT

TONIGHT AND FOR MUCH OF FRIDAY. WINDS WILL INCREASE ON SATURDAY

BETWEEN 30 TO 40 MPH...WITH PEAK GUSTS NEAR 60 MPH.

* IMPACTS...STRONG WINDS WILL CAUSE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW

WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT TIMES...WITH VISIBILITIES

OF ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS IN BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. WIND

CHILL TEMPERATURES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE.

DOWNED TREES AND POWERLINES COULD RESULT FROM THE STRONGEST

GUSTS ON SATURDAY. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF BY LATE

SATURDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS

AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT

CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF

YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET

STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

&&

$$

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I want a storm partly just to see the dual-pol in action. It is pretty cool to see the R/S line south of Madison, WI today.

I swear, everyone with RadarScope or other dual-pol access should go check out the tilt 1 loop of correlation coefficient out of Milwaukee/Sullivan's radar. Sexy as hell. Worth the billion dollar upgrades right there.

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC

212 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

MDZ501-VAZ503-WVZ501-503-505-210315-

/O.CAN.KLWX.WS.W.0008.121221T0600Z-121222T2300Z/

/O.NEW.KLWX.BZ.W.0002.121221T0600Z-121222T2300Z/

EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-WESTERN HIGHLAND-WESTERN GRANT-

WESTERN MINERAL-WESTERN PENDLETON-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FROSTBURG...HIGHTOWN...BAYARD...

MOUNT STORM...ELK GARDEN...CIRCLEVILLE

212 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM FRIDAY TO 6 PM EST

SATURDAY...

...WINTER STORM WARNING IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS

ISSUED A BLIZZARD WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM FRIDAY

TO 6 PM EST SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORM WARNING HAS BEEN

CANCELLED.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW...HEAVY AND BLOWING AT TIMES.

* ACCUMULATIONS...8 TO 14 INCHES. HIGHEST AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED

ALONG THE HIGHEST TERRAIN...ESPECIALLY ABOVE 2500 FT.

* TIMING...LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY. THE ONSET OF SNOW

IS EXPECTED THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH THE WORST CONDITIONS LIKELY

FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND FRIDAY NIGHT...THEN TAPERING OFF SATURDAY.

* TEMPERATURES...HIGHS IN THE UPPER 20S. LOWS IN THE UPPER TEENS

TO LOWER 20S.

* WINDS...WEST 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH OVERNIGHT

TONIGHT AND FOR MUCH OF FRIDAY. WINDS WILL INCREASE ON SATURDAY

BETWEEN 30 TO 40 MPH...WITH PEAK GUSTS NEAR 60 MPH.

* IMPACTS...STRONG WINDS WILL CAUSE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW

WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONS EXPECTED AT TIMES...WITH VISIBILITIES

OF ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS IN BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. WIND

CHILL TEMPERATURES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE.

DOWNED TREES AND POWERLINES COULD RESULT FROM THE STRONGEST

GUSTS ON SATURDAY. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF BY LATE

SATURDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS

AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT

CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF

YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET

STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.

&&

$$

snowfall amounts are tough to pin down with these types of events. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see some locations eclipse 20 inches.

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I swear, everyone with RadarScope or other dual-pol access should go check out the tilt 1 loop of correlation coefficient out of Milwaukee/Sullivan's radar. Sexy as hell. Worth the billion dollar upgrades right there.

All you have to do is look at Blacksburg's new dual-pole for Alleghany, Bath and Highland. Working fine as it is picking up the sleet and snow and rain pretty well from my ground truth observations over the past hour.

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I'm supposed to be driving to Morgantown early in the a.m. and returning tomorrow in the late afternoon. Looks like some tough sledding across the plateau.

I don't envy you..that will be tough crossing the tops along I-68. I'm home until the 5th and then back to Houston for two weeks. I hope I get to see the potential storm before I leave.

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I don't envy you..that will be tough crossing the tops along I-68. I'm home until the 5th and then back to Houston for two weeks. I hope I get to see the potential storm before I leave.

I'm trying to talk the wife out of it. Our daughter is under the care of a cardio-pulmonary specialist at Ruby Memorial, and the doctor wants to examine her before the doctor leaves for a holiday vacation.

We're gonna discuss it this evening. I have 4-wheel drive, but the weather sure will make a long ride that much longer.

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I'm trying to talk the wife out of it. Our daughter is under the care of a cardio-pulmonary specialist at Ruby Memorial, and the doctor wants to examine her before the doctor leaves for a holiday vacation.

We're gonna discuss it this evening. I have 4-wheel drive, but the weather sure will make a long ride that much longer.

We took our middle daughter there too when she was young...excellent place. I hope everything turns out alright. Be careful driving.

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