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December Obs and Banter


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I'm all about the Chill storm, but maybe we should be paying attention nearer in. GFS, Euro and Canadian all have a Christmas Eve flizzard.

It just seems like there's too much on the table to look beyond a few days. Of course, like every other weenie I'll continue to hang every six hour period on the latest model run, but I'm with you. I'm going to put my wish-energy into that flizzard becoming a four or five hour period of light snow. A little dusting Christmas morning with a residual flake or two would be extremely satisfying.

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Models showed us changing over and weather 53 said we would stay all snow and we did. Does he still post here? He nailed that one.

I remember that storm well. It was a Sunday and for the days leading up to it, H was talking about the parameters the pressure had to be for us to get snow. He did nail that one, and the snow moved in from the sw and hit a wall just before DC around Ji-land. They got the most out of it, but I ended up with a solid 3". Great little storm.

Someone said he posts occassionally under a different handle but I'm not sure.

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the big thing to me from watching the models is that while a storm track to our west seems like a safe bet (anyone would be nuts to bet against it at this point), we are still seeing solutions that give some minor front end frozen even with a wrapped up low over Illinois....which suggests to me that we dont need a great storm track to get some interesting hybrid before we change over...a weaker low over Ohio would probably be enough and I am not skilled enough to say whether the pattern can support that but my guess is it can...

I think we probably could see a weaker OH storm but kind of think the 18Z GFS is probably about as good as it can get though a weaker low certainly would probably keep the warm layer at bay a little longer. If the models weaken the upper low that now is parking near the maritimes then we'll probalby see another euro like solution on the next run or two.

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I'm wearing out, I need to either have a storm to write a CWG article about or to take a short sabbatical.

I always think it's silly when people say we just need some snow but at this point I think it's partly true.

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I always think it's silly when people say we just need some snow but at this point I think it's partly true.

A 23 month absence of snow that just barely covers the tips of my tightly.mowed lawn and a snow shovel that hasn't seen daylight in just as long is a serious issue that "just seeing snow" only begins to resolve.

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I read this board in the summer and I think you may be a tad delusional in thinking the wishcasting is that much different...uh oh....tornado!!!! Lol

maybe.. but we don't latch on to storms 10 days in advance very often or ever. plus i think there is an inherent knowledge that tornadoes or true severe wx impacts a minute part of the population in most instances around here. we're all generally happy to see it somewhere even if we don't see it ourselves. not really a one to one comparison.. plus in this region most people who like svr wx follow lots of wx whereas there are a lot of people who only post here when there's a chance of snow. not to be snobby, but many of them just think snow is pretty and that's about as far as they care to delve.

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maybe.. but we don't latch on to storms 10 days in advance very often or ever. plus i think there is an inherent knowledge that tornadoes or true severe wx impacts a minute part of the population in most instances around here. we're all generally happy to see it somewhere even if we don't see it ourselves. not really a one to one comparison.. plus in this region most people who like svr wx follow lots of wx whereas there are a lot of people who only post here when there's a chance of snow. not to be snobby, but many of them just think snow is pretty and that's about as far as they care to delve.

The sun is coming out now...let's cook the atmosphere!!! :pimp:

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maybe.. but we don't latch on to storms 10 days in advance very often or ever. plus i think there is an inherent knowledge that tornadoes or true severe wx impacts a minute part of the population in most instances around here. we're all generally happy to see it somewhere even if we don't see it ourselves. not really a one to one comparison.. plus in this region most people who like svr wx follow lots of wx whereas there are a lot of people who only post here when there's a chance of snow. not to be snobby, but many of them just think snow is pretty and that's about as far as they care to delve.

I also think it is partially people in the summer are out much more, the weather is much nicer the days are longer and people take vacations. In the winter it is dark, cold and people are cooped up in their houses so they post alot more.

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I also think it is partially people in the summer are out much more, the weather is much nicer the days are longer and people take vacations. In the winter it is dark, cold and people are cooped up in their houses so they post alot more.

that might be part of it.. but snow is an easy weather item to love without needing to get too far into the whys. people like t-storms i guess, but most people aren't looking for severe wind or tornadoes -- more or less, "hey lightning that's cool." there are definitely posters who you never see anywhere on the forum except during the time when there is a glimmer of snow hope. there are those among them who are good posters and try to learn etc., but i'd stand by the idea that says that sub-group also contains the worst posters across the board.

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speaking of t-storms and snow... northern MO ftw

The National Weather Service in Pleasant Hill has issued a

* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for...

Grundy County in north central Missouri...

southeastern Mercer County in north central Missouri...

western Sullivan County in north central Missouri...

* until 845 PM CST

* at 812 PM CST... a severe thunderstorm was located near Trenton...

and moving northeast at 45 mph.

Hazard... quarter size hail.

Source... trained weather spotters.

Impact... minor damage to vehicles... roofs and windows.

* Locations impacted include...

Milan... Galt... Humphreys... Osgood... Reger... Harris and Newtown.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a

building.

Large hail... damaging winds and continuous cloud to ground lightning

is occurring with this storm. Move indoors immediately. Lightning

kills. Remember... if you can hear thunder... you are close enough to

be struck by lightning.

Lat... Lon 4038 9322 4012 9308 3996 9356 3996 9361

4010 9372 4039 9335

time... Mot... loc 0215z 230deg 41kt 4010 9352

Hail... 1.00in

wind... <50 mph

Cutter

... Winter Storm Warning now in effect from 9 PM this evening to

noon CST Thursday...

The Winter Storm Warning for snow and blowing snow is now in effect from

9 PM this evening to noon CST Thursday.

* Locations... areas of northeastern Kansas and northwestern

Missouri.

* Timing... light rain continues to develop this afternoon and will

overspread northwest Missouri by this evening. This rain will begin

to mix with snow and sleet late Wednesday evening... quickly

transitioning to moderate to heavy snow after 10pm. Snow will

diminish after daybreak Thursday.

* Snow... total accumulations between 3 and 6 inches will be possible

with.

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