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I've only been saying all along that there is a window post Xmas. That there is a good chance for a significant storm (of some sort). And there is some colder air than we've seen all season in our neighborhood. I've never said that it's like a classic setup or some sort of lock for snow.

I believe I've done an "ok" job at identifying it and I would appreciate a token crumb of recognition even if we shovel an inch or 2 of water. Lol

6z gfs has a less than optimal vort track so its a rainer. However there's a 1036hp in a decent spot north of ME I would think (regardless of what the model shows) that there is support for a period of snow at the beginning.

If we get any front end snow or the unusual wrap around stuff then I'm going to feel pretty good. If we get all snow then I retire. If nothing happens at all? Hey, I'm just a weenie. Go troll DT.

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Need a favor from one of the short range guys. I'm trying to go up to Codorus st park and play disc golf before the rain tomorrow. The park is just over the PA line north of Westminster. Zones and discussions talk about rain not really hitting till 1. That's still kinda early because I won't get playing until 10:30. Really hoping for a 4 hour window or the drive may not be worth it.

Can anyone provide thoughts irt when the more disruptive type of rain is gonna start up that way? I can handle some light rain but even then it's a pain in the ass with wet discs every throw. Any insight would be appreciated. Not sure whether I should chance it or not. It's a 75 minute drive for me.

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Need a favor from one of the short range guys. I'm trying to go up to Codorus st park and play disc golf before the rain tomorrow. The park is just over the PA line north of Westminster. Zones and discussions talk about rain not really hitting till 1. That's still kinda early because I won't get playing until 10:30. Really hoping for a 4 hour window or the drive may not be worth it.

Can anyone provide thoughts irt when the more disruptive type of rain is gonna start up that way? I can handle some light rain but even then it's a pain in the ass with wet discs every throw. Any insight would be appreciated. Not sure whether I should chance it or not. It's a 75 minute drive for me.

It's kind of a messy warm advection pattern. if you can handle sprinkles, I think you can get your 4 hour window.

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Need a favor from one of the short range guys. I'm trying to go up to Codorus st park and play disc golf before the rain tomorrow. The park is just over the PA line north of Westminster. Zones and discussions talk about rain not really hitting till 1. That's still kinda early because I won't get playing until 10:30. Really hoping for a 4 hour window or the drive may not be worth it.

Can anyone provide thoughts irt when the more disruptive type of rain is gonna start up that way? I can handle some light rain but even then it's a pain in the ass with wet discs every throw. Any insight would be appreciated. Not sure whether I should chance it or not. It's a 75 minute drive for me.

I've played there before, wonderful course! 11AM to 2 PM time frame looks to be your best bet, but it's still going to be cloudy and drizzly at times.

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Snow lovers in the MA are like tropical snorkelers at the north pole... we live in an area that rarely meets our needs... one of the reasons I am working to move out west.

NWS for Mount Rainer mid elevation

7-DAY FORECAST


  • Tonight

    Snow. Low around 7. Windy, with a east wind 11 to 21 mph becoming south 22 to 32 mph in the evening. Winds could gust as high as 46 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 22 to 28 inches possible.


  • Monday

    Snow. High near 10. Windy, with a west southwest wind 34 to 39 mph, with gusts as high as 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible.


  • Monday Night

    Snow showers. Low around 5. West wind around 18 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.


  • Tuesday

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy and cold, with a high near 6. West southwest wind 14 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.


  • Tuesday Night

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 2. South southwest wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches possible.


  • Wednesday

    Snow. High near 9. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 23 to 29 inches possible.


  • Wednesday Night

    Snow. Low around 6. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible.


  • Thursday

    Snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 13.


  • Thursday Night

    Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 8.


  • Friday

    Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 11.


  • Friday Night

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 7.


  • Saturday

    Snow likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 14.

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Snow lovers in the MA are like tropical snorkelers at the north pole... we live in an area that rarely meets our needs... one of the reasons I am working to move out west.

NWS for Mount Rainer mid elevation

7-DAY FORECAST


  • Tonight

    Snow. Low around 7. Windy, with a east wind 11 to 21 mph becoming south 22 to 32 mph in the evening. Winds could gust as high as 46 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 22 to 28 inches possible.


  • Monday

    Snow. High near 10. Windy, with a west southwest wind 34 to 39 mph, with gusts as high as 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible.


  • Monday Night

    Snow showers. Low around 5. West wind around 18 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.


  • Tuesday

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy and cold, with a high near 6. West southwest wind 14 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.


  • Tuesday Night

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 2. South southwest wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches possible.


  • Wednesday

    Snow. High near 9. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 23 to 29 inches possible.


  • Wednesday Night

    Snow. Low around 6. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible.


  • Thursday

    Snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 13.


  • Thursday Night

    Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 8.


  • Friday

    Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 11.


  • Friday Night

    Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 7.


  • Saturday

    Snow likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 14.

The less you receive the more you appreciate. If I lived at Mt Rainer I would care less about snow.

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I've played there before, wonderful course! 11AM to 2 PM time frame looks to be your best bet, but it's still going to be cloudy and drizzly at times.

I've played it twice before. Scenic and challenging. The X holes kick butt. Unless radar sucks in the morning I'm making a go of it. If its gonna be warm in Dec then I'm gonna make lemonade. Appreciate the insight!

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The less you receive the more you appreciate. If I lived at Mt Rainer I would care less about snow.

I used to think that way too. Now I ask why if I love snow would I want to live in a climate that is mostly a boring disappointment ? So I can appreciate "less of what I love" ? I rather be in a place that rarely disappoints, celebrate, even get bored with abundance and appreciate that I no longer live in a climate that mostly doesn't meet my needs. :santa:

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And the 6z gfs tosses us a christmas clipper. Just misses to the N but plenty of time for it to dig. It gon snow

Has the DT/Chill storm as a nasty cutter, but the 6z ensemble mean looks much nicer. Almost each member has a storm at the 26-27th, but there's still a lot of play in the outcome. On a good note, it looks like the Op's "cut it to Milwaukee" solution is the outlier. A fair number take it up towards the TN Valley and then transfer to the coast, some keep it south and turn it into a coastal. Even if it cuts, I think we have a decent chance at some front-end ice/snow with the high up to the north well-placed for CAD.

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I know it is LR and it will probably be different come the 12Z but I am a little surprised no one mentioned the Euro. Both the Euro Op and ensembles look very promising for an east coast storm. Both have low pressure in the gulf coast region, a decent high pressure to the north and a positively tilted trough hitting the Mississippi region with the op having a cutoff to boot. They also both feature a 50/50 low though it is moving out.

Yeah, DT just referred to this post Christmas storm the Euro is showing as the "DT STORM". As far as I'm concerned Usedtobe already deemed the the "Bob Chill" storm. Oh the drama.

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I think it is interesting that the signal for a storm just after Christmas has been on the models in some shape or form for many runs now. I understand that it is still a long way off and the prevailing thoughts are a chilly rain but honestly it's these types of storms/scenarios that are interesting to track and on occasion do pull a surprise. I for one would love to get a nice front end dump of an inch with a little icing then maybe rain if that is the most likely outcome. I have never been the big game hunter like others and have always enjoyed watching snow fall. Here's to a crazy week in my stores and on the models....

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