Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This place gets feisty when there is virtual snow inside of d10 on a handful of runs after a 22+ month snow drought and epic Dec torch. Just wait until models hold serve and improve inside of d5...and then lose it altogether. Some posts will be 3rd degree misdemeanors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I deleted some SNE style posts from Millz and ravens a while ago but that was it recently.. You are cool, you are the most liberal mod. If you deleted it i am sure i deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This place gets feisty when there is virtual snow inside of d10 on a handful of runs after a 22+ month snow drought and epic Dec torch. Just wait until models hold serve and improve inside of d5...and then lose it altogether. Some posts will be 3rd degree misdemeanors. When the GFS goes "Lucy" on us at 72 hours, people are going to rip each others' throats out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This place gets feisty when there is virtual snow inside of d10 on a handful of runs after a 22+ month snow drought and epic Dec torch. Just wait until models hold serve and improve inside of d5...and then lose it altogether. Some posts will be 3rd degree misdemeanors. Lol, Bob you are always chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I hit the bottle hard tonight for the first time out of excitement instead of vanquish in 2 years. I'm sorry Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I hope it snows this winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lol, Bob you are always chill. Thanks for not beating the foreskins. Anyone have the DGEX 192 hr snowfall mappe? Edit: found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 This place gets feisty when there is virtual snow inside of d10 on a handful of runs after a 22+ month snow drought and epic Dec torch. Just wait until models hold serve and improve inside of d5...and then lose it altogether. Some posts will be 3rd degree misdemeanors. I refuse to be suckered in. But you're right. If we get hosed only to watch places 200 miles south get smoked, it might get ugly. I'm hoping DT reverse jinxed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Thanks for not beating the foreskins. Anyone have the DGEX 192 hr snowfall mappe? Don't look at them, don't do it to yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 I hit the bottle hard tonight for the first time out of excitement instead of vanquish in 2 years. I'm sorry Ian Seek medical assistance if it lasts more than four hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Thanks for not beating the foreskins. Anyone have the DGEX 192 hr snowfall mappe? Edit: found it LOL, I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 LOL, I see what you did there. Can work miracles with MS Paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yea cause you should always take a model verbatim when referring to 192 hours out...... look, I've never been shy about being a weenie but getting excited over a 192 hr rainstorm is beyond weenie in case some have forgotten, we have seen many of these modeled rainstorms hoping they would be snow in the prior 2 winters and they haven't worked out but JI and apparently you too missed the point of my original post regarding the physics the GFS had a rainstorm of decent intensity modeled based upon progged atmospheric conditions.....you can't expect that if the atmosphere was cold enough to support snow that it would be modeling the same intensity and track; it is much more likely to be weaker for our area or even pushed to our south when you consider both of those points, mentioning that verbatim the model shows a rainstorm is nothing more than the injection of reality into the world of wx models, which is simply asking that if we're going to fantasize over a projected fantasy like the GFS at 192 hrs, let's at least acknowledge that the GFS storm is not the fantasy we all crave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 look, I've never been shy about being a weenie but getting excited over a 192 hr rainstorm is beyond weenie in case some have forgotten, we have seen many of these modeled rainstorms hoping they would be snow in the prior 2 winters and they haven't worked out but JI and apparently you too missed the point of my original post regarding the physics the GFS had a rainstorm of decent intensity modeled based upon progged atmospheric conditions.....you can't expect that if the atmosphere was cold enough to support snow that it would be modeling the same intensity and track; it is much more likely to be weaker for our area or even pushed to our south when you consider both of those points, mentioning that verbatim the model shows a rainstorm is nothing more than the injection of reality into the world of wx models, which is simply asking that if we're going to fantasize over a projected fantasy like the GFS at 192 hrs, let's at least acknowledge that the GFS storm is not the fantasy we all crave It's pretty hard to get excited about anything over about 4 days. Even the reliable Euro has struggled at longer ranges so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's pretty hard to get excited about anything over about 4 days. Even the reliable Euro has struggled at longer ranges so far. can't agree more in fact, on the one hand it seems like the computers are getting worse, but then I think back to 09/10 when they did great in the end, all the tweaking and work they do on them and the bottom line is, in certain patterns they are decent and in others they suck and this "winter", at least so far, they have been all over the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 but JI and apparently you too missed the point of my original post regarding the physics Ji missed a point about physics??? You've got to be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 can't agree more in fact, on the one hand it seems like the computers are getting worse, but then I think back to 09/10 when they did great in the end, all the tweaking and work they do on them and the bottom line is, in certain patterns they are decent and in others they suck and this "winter", at least so far, they have been all over the place Remember the old adage.. weather is unpredictable, and always will be. Keep weenie hope and will alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 can't agree more in fact, on the one hand it seems like the computers are getting worse, but then I think back to 09/10 when they did great in the end, all the tweaking and work they do on them and the bottom line is, in certain patterns they are decent and in others they suck and this "winter", at least so far, they have been all over the place I had always read that during pattern changes that they can struggle. Don't know if that's true or not, but one positive as I see it is that for the past 5 days or do they seem to be moving toward a colder pattern. Maybe with the blocking we get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Ji missed a point about physics??? You've got to be kidding me. lol I think Ji believes Apple was founded by Sir Isaac Newton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lol, Bob you are always chill. Lol- my friends tagged me with my nickname 2 decades ago and it's more alive and kicking than ever. The funny part is it has nothing to do with weather but it's so fitting as a screen name on so many levels. I don't mind having a God given gift of patience and water under the bridge mentality. I'll prob live longer because of it. I just want to see flakes falling again. If they stick its a bonus. Is that too much to ask? It's not like we live in Jacksonville or something. Or do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lol- my friends tagged me with my nickname 2 decades ago and it's more alive and kicking than ever. The funny part is it has nothing to do with weather but it's so fitting as a screen name on so many levels. I don't mind having a God given gift of patience and water under the bridge mentality. I'll prob live longer because of it. I just want to see flakes falling again. If they stick its a bonus. Is that too much to ask? It's not like we live in Jacksonville or something. Or do we? This thing could flip on a dime any minute and we could find ourselves hoping for mild temps and a break from winter. It's a long time until spring and it looks like it might get fun soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't mind having a God given gift of patience and water under the bridge mentality. I'll prob live longer because of it. 1/5 of rum a night does it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laminar Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 1/5 of rum a night does it for me. That should be enough for the 0z GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 this guy .. has got video updates: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 1/5 of rum a night does it for me. I'm a 2 beer and glass of bourban and rocks guy myself. With 4 kids and a busy life I'm pretty sure it adds to my lifespan as well. It's all fun and games until you blow a gasket. Lol. I'm not goin there without a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I had always read that during pattern changes that they can struggle. Don't know if that's true or not, but one positive as I see it is that for the past 5 days or do they seem to be moving toward a colder pattern. Maybe with the blocking we get lucky. Imo its comes down to dominant and stable features. They aren't always there. When they are it's always 10 days away. When they aren't models are criticized beyond repair. Identify and accept when they are there and vice versa and model performance looks pretty darn reasonable and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 DT is just getting worse. Maybe he's been the same but I think he's getting worse. His big fat ego drives him to make specific forecasts way too far out. I would think any experienced met has enough sense to openly say there is uncertainty in every forecast past a 4-5 days and it's totally acceptable to include uncertainty. But not for DT for some reason. It's like he thinks he's smarter than the models and can forecast better or something. He's been eating his lr forecasts more often than Albert Haynesworth eating bacon cheeseburgers lately. I feel slightly conflicted about him, although my biases are apparent due to my location (there aren't really any solid mets posting from around here). His videos are actually fairly thorough and do a great job of explaining to the layman such as myself. Unfortunately, he rides this "battle of the models" scenario way too hard and hurls around insults with every chance he gets. Not really sure what explains the dichotomy IRT written vs. spoken word for him. He's like a god in the wx-world around RIC though and it will take a massive disaster to destroy his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It will be nice to see if we can get precip anymore at least. Garrett Bastardi is not buying this solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 DT is often among the better at pattern recognition type stuff. But he is not as good at forecasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 it sucks that God made freezing 32. He should of made it 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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