December Banter

[burgertime]

I haven't read what Robert said today but I can't believe his message was to get ready for the incoming cold pattern for the SE in the next 2 weeks? And Matt did't say there was impending cold pattern shaping up for SE, unless he posted something other than this below. Show me any post by any met on this board that believes there is an impending pattern change for the SE coming up in the next 2 weeks? I am guessing they are probably saying that the SE could turn cold this winter if the blocking is strong enough to overcome the pacific or the PNA/EPO flips.

http://www.americanw...ost__p__1897570

[Isopycnic]

[burgertime]

[buckeyefan1]

[packbacker]

Alrighty, let's not beat up on my man packbacker too much. I don't believe anyone, Matt East, Robert, Allan, DT, HKY, HM, the other HM, Mr. Bob, or any other met is calling for a sustained period of cold weather within the next two weeks. However, most of them said that the NH pattern is changing. And they're right, it is. It looks to be one to bring more rain and some variable shots of cool/warm temps. I think pretty much everyone is in agreement on that aspect of it. So, in that sense, packbacker is correct.

On the other hand, the backer of the pack has implied (at least the way I understand it) that he's pretty much punting December. That's fine too, BUT, at the same time, Bevo is right in his implication that most of those mets have not ruled out the possibility of colder weather working south and east through the month. The 20th seems to be the date now that folks are keying in on for a potential better setup. Personally, I think it's premature to rule all of December compeletely out. There's simply no empirical data that supports this as set in stone.

Anyway, I do agree with Bevo in that it make a lot of sense to emphasize dates or timeframes when speculating. It helps with understanding and it promotes accountability.

Go Pack!

Thank you! In my original post I stated punt until the 20th and than see where we are. Bevo actually responded to my original post and only highlighted the first sentence to prove some childish point, I guess it's to much to ask to read the other two sentences where I have a timeframe. What is frustrating is we have people that just pick out the one sentence of a post to respond to and not the entire post. It's like if a met says the "pattern is changing" in the first sentence and people assume that means a wintery period is impending, when in fact if they read the entire post they would understand what the met actually means.

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38127-december-banter-and-long-range-snow-maps/page__view__findpost__p__1898997

[buckeyefan1]

Moved from the What not to post thread, lol.

+10 on Larry, Chris and Perry!! And thanks, Larry, but I think it's the ice cream talking, lol.

I learned a lot from you guys on weather in Ga. and weather in general. This board is a blessing to the weather info starved!!

Larry, I think of you and Perry as peas in the same pod. I sure hope he comes back this winter. I can see why he wasn't around last year, as last year wasn't around either And, Chris, you are indeed The Man, except for your ever expanding rain hole you keep dragging over here, and the snow nexus, you keep hogging for yourself...yes, I won't easily foget that snow train you got over you two years back when I got a lousy inch But if I need to know what is possible in Ga. in the next 24 hours, and what is happening in the column, all I need to do is look for your posts.

Ga. posters make up in quality what we lack in quantity...I'm sure glad we got Delta back, because I think Macon is going to play a part in this winter, when the long awaited Central Ga. Sleet Dump comes to TonyTown, and I so glad we've got the CandyMan now. Can't wait to hear him when he gets hail for the first time, or sleet in feet! And I even cherish Greg, though I think he still has reservations about my snow flakes as big as pizza plates testimony, lol.

If we ever have a battle where the ability to deal with intense frustration, and crippling disappointment scattered with rare moments of bliss, is greatly needed, then having Ga. folks at your side will keep you safe

Now...for an important question....Where The Heck is SnoJoe???? I miss you boy, get you butt back from Tahiti!!! There is nothing for you there!! T

I hope he gets back soon

Doesn't Perry have an account here?

[#NoPoles]

where's my twinkie dance?

[Bevo]

Alrighty, let's not beat up on my man packbacker too much. I don't believe anyone, Matt East, Robert, Allan, DT, HKY, HM, the other HM, Mr. Bob, or any other met is calling for a sustained period of cold weather within the next two weeks. However, most of them said that the NH pattern is changing. And they're right, it is. It looks to be one to bring more rain and some variable shots of cool/warm temps. I think pretty much everyone is in agreement on that aspect of it. So, in that sense, packbacker is correct.

On the other hand, the backer of the pack has implied (at least the way I understand it) that he's pretty much punting December. That's fine too, BUT, at the same time, Bevo is right in his implication that most of those mets have not ruled out the possibility of colder weather working south and east through the month. The 20th seems to be the date now that folks are keying in on for a potential better setup. Personally, I think it's premature to rule all of December compeletely out. There's simply no empirical data that supports this as set in stone.

Anyway, I do agree with Bevo in that it make a lot of sense to emphasize dates or timeframes when speculating. It helps with understanding and it promotes accountability.

Go Pack!

pack knows I dig him (I assume "him") as much as one human can dig another human hundreds of miles away and have never met. We have obvious similar interests in weather. We just have polar opposite delivery methods.

I've never understood the incessant need to emphatically inject constant "don't get too excited" posts, especially when they come across as factual commandments that we need to be reminded of like children. But I'm of Scottish decent - we have short fuses and even shorter recovery times. I am not concerned about the Pacific. I'm just not. I could be if it continues into late January - but why the @% would I worry about it now?

Love you pack - mean it. Hug it out b****

[Bevo]

Thank you! In my original post I stated punt until the 20th and than see where we are. Bevo actually responded to my original post and only highlighted the first sentence to prove some childish point, I guess it's to much to ask to read the other two sentences where I have a timeframe. What is frustrating is we have people that just pick out the one sentence of a post to respond to and not the entire post. It's like if a met says the "pattern is changing" in the first sentence and people assume that means a wintery period is impending, when in fact if they read the entire post they would understand what the met actually means.

http://www.americanw...ost__p__1898997

Super childish.

If you're honestly telling me that you don't intend to come across the way I'm perceiving it - then I apologize. Seriously.

[buckeyefan1]

where's my twinkie dance?

I ate the twinkie's

BUT....I did flush 13 ice cubes down the toilet after turning in a left circle three times in hopes of reversing the portals

[packbacker]

pack knows I dig him (I assume "him") as much as one human can dig another human hundreds of miles away and have never met. We have obvious similar interests in weather. We just have polar opposite delivery methods.

I've never understood the incessant need to emphatically inject constant "don't get too excited" posts, especially when they come across as factual commandments that we need to be reminded of like children. But I'm of Scottish decent - we have short fuses and even shorter recovery times. I am not concerned about the Pacific. I'm just not. I could be if it continues into late January - but why the @% would I worry about it now?

Love you pack - mean it. Hug it out b****

You suck

I did read Roberts blog, he is cautiously optimistic, much more than me, that's all I will give from it, it's a great read. But, like I said before, on many many many posts, I do feel like we will have a couple of wintery events due to the strong blocking, but I feel this winter overall will be warmer on average from Dec-Feb, which isn't saying much as December is off to a torch fest. Even Jan-Feb will at best normal, IMO, but we will see. The -PDO is bxtch.

[Bevo]

You suck

I did read Roberts blog, he is cautiously optimistic, much more than me, that's all I will give from it, it's a great read. But, like I said before, on many many many posts, I do feel like we will have a couple of wintery events due to the strong blocking, but I feel this winter overall will be warmer on average from Dec-Feb, which isn't saying much as December is off to a torch fest. Even Jan-Feb will at best normal, IMO, but we will see. The -PDO is bxtch.

See? Like a good ole' punch in the arm and then we skip off to find the body that our friend Gordo was talking about...

Classic reference that should be readily understood

[Cold Rain]

Yall ever stop and think how cool it is that we can be all in miles and miles away from each other and still sit here and discuss weather on this message board? I think it's pretty awesome. We might not always agree on stuff, but what a fun thing to be able to hang out together and talk about something that we all love. You get to hear so many different perspectives in real time in a way that wasn't possible a few years ago. What an awesome thing.

[griteater]

Yall ever stop and think how cool it is that we can be all in miles and miles away from each other and still sit here and discuss weather on this message board? I think it's pretty awesome. We might not always agree on stuff, but what a fun thing to be able to hang out together and talk about something that we all love. You get to hear so many different perspectives in real time in a way that wasn't possible a few years ago. What an awesome thing.

It is cool. I mean, it wouldn't be any fun if you didn't have folks to converse with about the models, etc. The thing that stands out to me with the board is not only the incredible knowledge sharing that goes on, but the links to met related websites that you would have no idea even existed...things like model sounding output and NCEP Reanalysis maps. There are so many weblinks that I've come across from being on the board that have just been invaluable. I'd hate for my company to see the ungodly number of links in my 'Weather' favorites folder on my laptop, lol.

[GaWx]

Folks,

Per the 0Z Thu Goofy and fwiw, which is less than zero, KATL gets nearly 1" of snow on 12/19. Stay tuned to this BB for more updates as they become available. This is your winter storm HQ!

[Snowless in Carrollton]

I was doing some research on past snow events and came across an incredible snow event on this date in 1886. Asheville, NC had 33" of snow, 25" of snow in Rome, GA and 11" in Montgomery, AL! I would be curious to know exactly how much Atlanta got.

[JWXnc]

I was doing some research on past snow events and came across an incredible snow event on this date in 1886. Asheville, NC had 33" of snow, 25" of snow in Rome, GA and 11" in Montgomery, AL! I would be curious to know exactly how much Atlanta got.

Check this site: http://content.yudu....sources/464.htm

and enter 230 in the page number box at the top (the actual print page is 226).

[Cold Rain]

Good morning Everyone! I'm going to assume that since nobody posted anything about the overnight model runs, that they must be neutral to bad, outside of Larry's 1 incher for Atl. I'll check when I make it in to work and see if I'm correct.

[WilkesboroDude]

By 300

[Isopycnic]

By 300

Fort each one of these snow maps you post... you should post the snow totals for that hour on that day.

[WilkesboroDude]

Good morning Everyone! I'm going to assume that since nobody posted anything about the overnight model runs, that they must be neutral to bad, outside of Larry's 1 incher for Atl. I'll check when I make it in to work and see if I'm correct.

Wow. Verbatim the euro is just bad. No frozen for anyone through 240.

[Hilton01]

See? Like a good ole' punch in the arm and then we skip off to find the body that our friend Gordo was talking about...

Classic reference that should be readily understood

find the shoe and your getting close

and beware the leaches!

[WilkesboroDude]

I miss the cliff diving pics that we would all post...

[Cold Rain]

So the Euro was not a good look for cold and snow through 240. But the 0Z GFS looked fairly decent from about 144, as it developed a nice block and kept lots of blocking throughout it's run. The 6Z wasn't quite as good but eventually came up with the block.

[Brick Tamland]

At least the pattern is going to be more active soon. We need that to have any chance of seeing some winter weather. Even if it's not going to be a period of sustained cold, we just need to have the cold and the storm at the right time.

[dsaur]

I hope he gets back soon

Doesn't Perry have an account here?

Yep, Perry was on a lot a few years back when the snows were around. Didn't see him last winter, but then there wasn't a last winter, just an extended mild summer, lol. T

[Stovepipe]

Well that can't be good.

No hope until after 12/17/12 it looks like from what I am seeing. Which is not that long, but not sure how we are going to survive until then.

[GaWx]

The 12Z Goofy looks like absolute doggy doo doo late next week if your perspective is to want cold. Hold your noses, folks, it is El Stinkeroo!! Get your gas masks out.

[#NoPoles]

I ate the twinkie's

BUT....I did flush 13 ice cubes down the toilet after turning in a left circle three times in hopes of reversing the portals

all good and well, but the key to discovering if your offer was agreeable to the snowgods is the direction of the toilet bowl water as it went down the drain...clockwise, or conter clock wise?

[Brick Tamland]

I just hope it feels like winter when we get to Christmas.