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I actually thought it was a complete reversal viewing where the low was positioned around 140hrs but it's not too far off from previous runs other than being much warmer. This run would be an example of the cold rain I was mentioning earlier lol

The run looks good to me. At this range you're not going to take it verbatim. It is showing consistently some storm moving through at this time frame but the details won't be nailed down yet, and possibly not for a few more days.

East TN gets a little back end snow out of it though, still.

Now let's see how the rest of the run pans out.

Remember what I said though? A while back I said that details after this current front (the one that just moved through) will be VERY hazy until it's over. Now the details are more consistent and it sees when the next storm will be.

The GFS has a tendency in the short-mid range of being most consistent with the first front/storm on the horizon, then much less consistent on the next. It has to do with how the model is generated. If you want to see this more, look at the ensemble members. A good number of them are now showing a storm, but the range of where it will occur is still with a good degree of uncertainty.

Be patient. The models don't determine what will happen, only the weather will as it happens. The models will only get closer and closer to reality as time goes on.

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Thanks but you might want to hold that thought for when I invariably stick my foot in my mouth. ;)

Exhibit A: the very next post you make. Seriously saying that the 384 GFS might be onto something? Afters years, presumably, of watching the LR GFS flip and flop and generally be inaccurate in all seasons, but specially the winter? You have to be kidding me.

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Hr 168 of the euro should look good for someone. Previous frame (144) has a low at 1000mb over OK with cold air digging into it. Eager to see what the doc holds. The main system next week bombs off of MA, no dice for us in the SE.

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It's great that the pattern is getting more active. We might not get anything here out of the system next week as far as winter weather goes, but I hope it's just the beginning of things to watch and will be setting us up for something good down the road. But if we get an active pattern and don't see any winter weather from it down the road, it's going to be very frustrating.

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My annual "suppressed" rant.....

1. To put an end to forcibly; subdue.
2. To curtail or prohibit the activities of.
3. To keep from being revealed, published, or circulated.
4. To deliberately exclude (unacceptable desires or thoughts) from the mind.
5. To inhibit the expression of (an impulse, for example); check: suppress a smile.
6. To reduce the incidence or severity of (a hemorrhage or cough, for example); arrest.

Matt Rogers used it today along with many other mets and thousands of weenies....I am not sure why a track along the gulf coast or though the south is suppressed. It is fairly common in the winter. To me the only good use of the word would be a strong polar jet squashing the STJ or a strong northern branch squashing a southern branch keeping anything from forming (a la cold and dry)....There is nothing suppressed about the storm the 00Z Euro...

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Does anyone else feel like there is WAY TOO MUCH banter in the December Discussion Thread? Why have the banter thread if you aren't going to use it. More than half the overnight posts did not contribute positively to the discussion. It's a little frustrating. I don't want to report all of those posts to a moderator because many of those posters I have respect for and usually have valid and productive things to say. Maybe after the first storm threat, things will calm down a bit. Thanks for letting me vent a little here in the BANTER thread. Have a good day all!

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Does anyone else feel like there is WAY TOO MUCH banter in the December Discussion Thread? Why have the banter thread if you aren't going to use it. More than half the overnight posts did not contribute positively to the discussion. It's a little frustrating. I don't want to report all of those posts to a moderator because many of those posters I have respect for and usually have valid and productive things to say. Maybe after the first storm threat, things will calm down a bit. Thanks for letting me vent a little here in the BANTER thread. Have a good day all!

I agree it's out of control. Let me know if anything I posted doesn't belong.

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Does anyone else feel like there is WAY TOO MUCH banter in the December Discussion Thread? Why have the banter thread if you aren't going to use it. More than half the overnight posts did not contribute positively to the discussion. It's a little frustrating. I don't want to report all of those posts to a moderator because many of those posters I have respect for and usually have valid and productive things to say. Maybe after the first storm threat, things will calm down a bit. Thanks for letting me vent a little here in the BANTER thread. Have a good day all!

Yes, I agree. It's LESS than awesome to FINALLY see a multipage night finally occur and then to realize it's filled with nothing but banter after catching up.

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I agree it's out of control. Let me know if anything I posted doesn't belong.

Hi Burger. I'm glad that you are seeing this too. I know it is easy for us to get caught up in an argument on a forum like this, especially when somebody says something stupid or that you don't agree with. Certain posters seems to encite a riot with some of their posts and everyone wants to jump in an argue or to get in a good jab or funny post. I just don't think that it should be in the main weather discussion thread. I would hope that we can keep out all of the clutter and keep the tone as positive and inviting as we have in the past. I don't want to lose any red taggers or others who are looking to have a reasonable discussion about the weather.

Burger: Since you asked, I'll put your last post here. I am not trying to call you out or rant and rave. My intent is not to start anything. I am a very calm and patient person who has the best of intentions. One cannot always infer that from what is being typed on a computer screen. I always enjoy you posting information as the models roll in. Can't wait for the first late night Euro run where you say BOOM!!!

Thanks for the insight. Guess that tells you how bad last winter is when there is reason to get excited if the Euro is showing temps in the 40's for more than two days in a row.

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Hey everyone, it's been a while! I wanted to share with you that the State Climate Office of NC has started posting new blog entries on NC weather and climate news.

I thought you guys might find their latest entry detailing how Siberian snowfall may impact the AO/NAO a good read. It's part of a series detailing different winter forecasting techniques that will end next Monday with their Winter 2012/13 outlook.

October Siberian Snowfall May Shape NC Winters: http://nc-climate.ncsu.edu/climateblog?id=5

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Hi Burger. I'm glad that you are seeing this too. I know it is easy for us to get caught up in an argument on a forum like this, especially when somebody says something stupid or that you don't agree with. Certain posters seems to encite a riot with some of their posts and everyone wants to jump in an argue or to get in a good jab or funny post. I just don't think that it should be in the main weather discussion thread. I would hope that we can keep out all of the clutter and keep the tone as positive and inviting as we have in the past. I don't want to lose any red taggers or others who are looking to have a reasonable discussion about the weather.

Burger: Since you asked, I'll put your last post here. I am not trying to call you out or rant and rave. My intent is not to start anything. I am a very calm and patient person who has the best of intentions. One cannot always infer that from what is being typed on a computer screen. I always enjoy you posting information as the models roll in. Can't wait for the first late night Euro run where you say BOOM!!!

Screw you!!! :lmao:

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Hey everyone, it's been a while! I wanted to share with you that the State Climate Office of NC has started posting new blog entries on NC weather and climate news.

I thought you guys might find their latest entry detailing how Siberian snowfall may impact the AO/NAO a good read. It's part of a series detailing different winter forecasting techniques that will end next Monday with their Winter 2012/13 outlook.

October Siberian Snowfall May Shape NC Winters: http://nc-climate.nc...limateblog?id=5

Good reading, thanks!

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My annual "suppressed" rant.....

1. To put an end to forcibly; subdue.
2. To curtail or prohibit the activities of.
3. To keep from being revealed, published, or circulated.
4. To deliberately exclude (unacceptable desires or thoughts) from the mind.
5. To inhibit the expression of (an impulse, for example); check: suppress a smile.
6. To reduce the incidence or severity of (a hemorrhage or cough, for example); arrest.

Matt Rogers used it today along with many other mets and thousands of weenies....I am not sure why a track along the gulf coast or though the south is suppressed. It is fairly common in the winter. To me the only good use of the word would be a strong polar jet squashing the STJ or a strong northern branch squashing a southern branch keeping anything from forming (a la cold and dry)....There is nothing suppressed about the storm the 00Z Euro...

The only thing being suppressed right now are demonstrators in Egypt seeking a real republic free of MB bullying.

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