Hoosier Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 lock it in Kinda early but you wonder if a lot of the winter forecasts might already in be trouble in some regard. December temp anomalies should come down from where they are but I don't remember anyone suggesting a December nearly this warm. Gonna put a lot of pressure on the next couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Looks awful...mega torch building by the end of the Euro the 12 hours of false hope I was experiencing for a sudden turnaround to snow and cold was fun while it lasted. Time to make myself at home here once again. Truth of the matter when it comes to weather, disappointment never lets me down....only hope does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Cold rain this weekend followed by a nor'easter/OTS to the SE. Life sure is grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Cold rain this weekend followed by a nor'easter/OTS to the SE. Life sure is grand. Why you quitting on the storm next week? Because of one bad euro run? Cmon mike lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Why you quitting on the storm next week? Because of one bad euro run? Cmon mike lol where do you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 where do you live? Seriously are u kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Seriously are u kidding? You seem to forget. This is Toronto. We don't get breaks. Ever. First storm is a bit of wet flakes at first changing to rain. Second storm is a miss to the S/E. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 You seem to forget. This is Toronto. We don't get breaks. Ever. First storm is a bit of wet flakes at first changing to rain. Second storm is a miss to the S/E. End of discussion. Yeah but I'm sure you weren't saying that this morning or the past couple of days when the EURO was showing a nice storm here. One bad EURO run and that's it? I mean if the euro trends like this for the next few days then yea stick a fork in it but the EURO ensembles were much further north than the OP so that's a good sign. Stay positive my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectOH Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 the 12 hours of false hope I was experiencing for a sudden turnaround to snow and cold was fun while it lasted. Time to make myself at home here once again. Truth of the matter when it comes to weather, disappointment never lets me down....only hope does. A lot of major indicies are not looking good either...NCEP says there is going to be a raging positive EPO meaning torch city if that - NAO doesn't come to pass. Also the ECMWF MJO forecasts are for the MJO to hit Phase 5 by early Jan. Torch pattern. Wonder how long it will take to get to Phase 8 (if it does) which a pretty wintry phase. With our luck, it will hit Phase 5 and then go into the Circle of Death. End of rant... Ugh...I hope those forecasts are wrong, seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah but I'm sure you weren't saying that this morning or the past couple of days when the EURO was showing a nice storm here. One bad EURO run and that's it? I mean if the euro trends like this for the next few days then yea stick a fork in it but the EURO ensembles were much further north than the OP so that's a good sign. Stay positive my friend. We're two very different people. A sole model (albeit a very good model) showing a storm in fantasy land doesn't make me blink an eye. As to your last statement ("stay positive my friend"), why should I? My beliefs and actions are governed by observation and rationality. We haven't had a thing to be positive about in 5 years and you want me to go all in on a D8 thread the needle storm? Yeah, ok. oh, and I keep forgetting to ask you...did you enjoy your 8" of snow on April 23, 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 We're two very different people. A sole model (albeit a very good model) showing a storm in fantasy land doesn't make me blink an eye. As to your last statement ("stay positive my friend"), why should I? My beliefs and actions are governed by observation and rationality. We haven't had a thing to be positive about in 5 years and you want me to go all in on a D8 thread the needle storm? Yeah, ok. oh, and I keep forgetting to ask you...did you enjoy your 8" of snow on April 23, 2012? Well fair enough. And that was late april this is now mid december. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Imagine if these weather forums had existed through the mid-late 90s... A thread like this would probably be 200 pages right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Imagine if these weather forums had existed through the mid-late 90s... A thread like this would probably be 200 pages right now. I have thought this numerous times. 1994 thru Dec 1998 was utter garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 December is in serious trouble! Alot is riding on this 18th-20th system.. If it fails and the Euro holds the torch. WATCH OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have thought this numerous times. 1994 thru Dec 1998 was utter garbage Actually I think about this with the GRAND DADDY of all....Jan' 1978 bomb. Imagine being able to track that with todays models in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 December is in serious trouble! Allot is riding on this 18th-20th system.. If it fails and the Euro holds the torch. WATCH OUT! I can handle alot but allot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Actually I think about this with the GRAND DADDY of all....Jan' 1978 bomb. Imagine being able to track that with todays models in this forum. I am not that lucky enough.. 2 feet of pure bliss imby here? ha! This is about the only thing that makes me yearn for the eastcoast.. Yeah it did not snow as much as here but you were good for atleast one epic bomb every 7-8 years or so unlike here where it seems to be 1 in 30+ if that.. lol I think this area used up all of it's bomb potential back in Jan 67, 78 and 79 for the next 100+ years.. But yeah that would be sweet. My hunch is if it were to happen the final details would not be ironed out till the storm is cranking.. Nothing ever comes easy around here in the modeling world.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I can handle alot but allot? lol Epic collapse incoming if this thing fails to deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 yep....things are looking grim...i'm already back to scouring 240+ hrs out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Won't be until at least the 17th before we get one day this month to come in below normal. Worse than last Decemeber.. Sweet f'ing pattern change here.. Epic snow pattern for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have thought this numerous times. 1994 thru Dec 1998 was utter garbage Indeed. Strings of bad winters are not all that un-common. We are due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 12z GFS is a disaster...our pattern change is torch after torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 12z GFS is a disaster...our pattern change is torch after torch. Good to hear, much easier to break our snow futility record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 12z GFS is a disaster...our pattern change is torch after torch. Green Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Green Christmas! Or brown, but probably green if we get into a rainy pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 2-6 degree above normal days as far as the guidance can be trusted. Just awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This blows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This blows... Trends die hard! Hows Europe looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 yep....things are looking grim...i'm already back to scouring 240+ hrs out Yep... Gonna watch the Noreaster rumble up the east coast on the 18th-19th and look for the next "fantasy transforming into another miss by a wide margin" event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 yep, meltdowns are going to be pop'n off like crazy if the east coast sees a monster snow storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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