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On the doorstep of winter....it's coming! Pattern with banter


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Then there is the Canadian ensembls with a low cutting through SNE and then bombing...lol. I'm going to give it until 00z to completely write it off. I've seen the 96-120hr shuffle before. Even if its only a couple of tenths of an inch of melted...fine by me and I'm sure many others.

Obviously 2 or 3 days too early to write anything off. You have too much experience for that kind of over the top statement.

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You know ...I just get the feeling we're going to have to deal with this crap from the Euro all season long and that it will be excruciatingly annoying at times, and that has to do with it running up these huge warm sectors in the GL and NE regions in its D6+ ranges. The current flat warm bulge that's barely discernible between the MV and lower OV between 48 and 72 hours, 5 days ago was forecast to be this 70F warm air to BUF type warm sector in the Euro. Not with a falling -NAO ... here we are.

By D7 the NAO is -2SD and still dropping - I tell you what, if for some reason that open wave shows back up you could almost wonder if the Euro's hell bent on ignoring the -NAO might have something to do with why it lost it. You can't really simultaneously run warm sectors through a -NAO trough - it just doesn't make much sense.

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He means you writing off a system 4 days out because only 1 model is squashing it when meteorology dictates that model is incorrectly reading the atmosphere

Well Edink is another example of reading comprehension issues plaguing this board.

00z suite tonight will be insiode 96 hrs. If all models are flat as a pancake and way OTS, kiss it good bye. If they come back NW, especially the euro...clearly you do not write it off. I just got done stating that you shouldn't completely write it off because I've seen the 96-120 hr shuffle before. So he is completely wrong.

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Well Edink is another example of reading comprehension issues plaguing this board.

00z suite tonight will be insiode 96 hrs. If all models are flat as a pancake and way OTS, kiss it good bye. If they come back NW, especially the euro...clearly you do not write it off. I just got done stating that you shouldn't completely write it off because I've seen the 96-120 hr shuffle before. So he is completely wrong.

I don't think he was writing that to be a jerk. I think he was innocently expressing his thoughts. Complementing you on your experience and questioning why someone of your stature would write off a system 4 days out in a pattern ripe for snow.
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I don't think he was writing that to be a jerk. I think he was innocently expressing his thoughts. Complementing you on your experience and questioning why someone of your stature would write off a system 4 days out in a pattern ripe for snow.

Because if all models look flat as a pancake tomorrow morning...all models, and the 500 pattern supports it, combined with it being under 96 hrs..you can. There is a difference. Given the model spread right now, I'm not writing it off, even a little light snow. The euro isn't always God.

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Because if all models look flat as a pancake tomorrow morning...all models, and the 500 pattern supports it, combined with it being under 96 hrs..you can. There is a difference. Given the model spread right now, I'm not writing it off, even a little light snow. The euro isn't always God.

And as we speak, the ensembles did make baby steps towards a small improvement...a possibility we mentioned earlier.

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I think Scooter is close to a meltdown...everything from last winter to seeing Jerry get 4" while he got a coating on 11/8 is starting to get to him.

You can read the anxiety in Scooters posts. Waiting for babies to come is stressful. Letting out here is therapeutic though. You guys pick a name?

The weenies have been relentless lately. No name yet.

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The weenies have been relentless lately. No name yet.

Its like this in the early cold season every year I feel like since I've been on these boards for over 7 years. Though it does "seem" a little worse in the past 2 or 3 years versus 6 years ago. I'm not sure why, but perhaps its because we have had multiple October snows recently (and this year's early November snow) and it gives people a false perception of climo. Simple logic says getting snow now on a semi-regular basis before Veterans Day means that by Thanksgiving we should be rocking in a mid-winter pattern...but that would be flawed logic.

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ORH all the way back to -0.8 through yesterday closer to 0 after today, unbelievable after a fairly normal September and very warm October all this discussion of how cold its been and so different really means nothing when put up against reality. ORH will easily average above normal for met Autumn, its not even close.

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Its like this in the early cold season every year I feel like since I've been on these boards for over 7 years. Though it does "seem" a little worse in the past 2 or 3 years versus 6 years ago. I'm not sure why, but perhaps its because we have had multiple October snows recently (and this year's early November snow) and it gives people a false perception of climo. Simple logic says getting snow now on a semi-regular basis before Veterans Day means that by Thanksgiving we should be rocking in a mid-winter pattern...but that would be flawed logic.

Just tie the sleeves of your Mighty Mac together around your neck and end it
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@BigJoeBastardi: Having a huge dilemma in that the GFS agrees with my ideas next week as it has the flatter wave and snow where I think

#4castntrouble"

He doesn't even seem to forecast anymore... just says, "hey I think it'll snow in the I-95 corridor every week from now till March... lets see what models I can cherry pick each day that show that."

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Its like this in the early cold season every year I feel like since I've been on these boards for over 7 years. Though it does "seem" a little worse in the past 2 or 3 years versus 6 years ago. I'm not sure why, but perhaps its because we have had multiple October snows recently (and this year's early November snow) and it gives people a false perception of climo. Simple logic says getting snow now on a semi-regular basis before Veterans Day means that by Thanksgiving we should be rocking in a mid-winter pattern...but that would be flawed logic.

I guess from trying to knock sense into the threads starting in May with all the faux severe threats and heatwaves that stayed in the MA..up until now with the endless winter theme...it's gotten to be a little ridiculous at times. I used to not care until this year, figuring throwing some science into the threads would ease the weenieing out, but I should know better.

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I guess from trying to knock sense into the threads starting in May with all the faux severe threats and heatwaves that stayed in the MA..up until now with the endless winter theme...it's gotten to be a little ridiculous at times. I used to not care until this year, figuring throwing some science into the threads would ease the weenieing out, but I should know better.

Buy me a beer the next time you come up here and I'll 5ppd whoever you'd like.
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I guess from trying to knock sense into the threads starting in May with all the faux severe threats and heatwaves that stayed in the MA..up until now with the endless winter theme...it's gotten to be a little ridiculous at times. I used to not care until this year, figuring throwing some science into the threads would ease the weenieing out, but I should know better.

Just crawl into the crib and leap out to your death . One jump and its over
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