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On the doorstep of winter....it's coming! Pattern with banter


weathafella

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uh isn't that the meaning and reason this board was started and existed in the first place? this is a community of many hobbyists, pros, and folks who love to try to forecast. it is a banter discussion. What exactly do you want? homogeneous agreement and met only posts?

Of course it is, but it tends to get a little eccentric at times. I understand though...nobody wants to hear words other than cold and snow in winter.

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My thoughts on the next 2 weeks:

Upcoming "storm": I still really don't have a clue what this is going to do, but I'd probably lean on the Euro ensembles in this time range. There's a definite chance we could get some wintry precip in the interior. But I can also basically see a whiff and some inverted trough junk snow showers. I think the cutter idea is losing steam quickly.

The "mild up" for beginning of December: I do think we warm up for a few days probably between Dec 2 and Dec 5 give or take. It doesn't look like an all out torch with temps in the 60s or anything and it should be relatively short lived. Probably something like when it first hits us, we have 2 days in the 40s and then maybe the last couple days touch or exceed 50.

Pattern for beyond Dec 5: This has both ensemble support and support from the weeklies. It looks like we are increasing the chances of a nice reload for a wintry pattern. We first start bringing up the PNA ridge in the west and then perhaps at some point we get a bit of NAO blocking with it. It appears the AK ridge reloads too. I am feeling pretty optimistic for mid-December and perhaps (fingers crossed) right into Christmas.

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Meanwhile has anyone heard from fella? Sounds like Brookline has a real turkey problem, hopefully he's not under a pile of turkeys right now. These are dangerous birds that have been known to rob liquor stores, carjack people and are prolific pick pockets. Brookline is reportedly going to respond to the problem by making the turkeys naturalized citizens in the hopes that it will reduce turkey on people crime. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/wild-turkeys-overrun-brookline-mass/

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Meanwhile has anyone heard from fella? Sounds like Brookline has a real turkey problem, hopefully he's not under a pile of turkeys right now. These are dangerous birds that have been known to rob liquor stores, carjack people and are prolific pick pockets. Brookline is reportedly going to respond to the problem by making the turkeys naturalized citizens in the hopes that it will reduce turkey on people crime. http://abcnews.go.co...brookline-mass/

lol and to ABC news :weenie: . Slow news day? I like how it says they have to station a police officer daily to protect the students from the marauding turkeys.

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any word on the weeklies? tried skimming through the last few pages. Didnt see anything though.

Week 3 looked awesome. A good -NAO with a +PNA ridge and Aleutian ridge. Week 4 got a little more messy, but verbatim up this way weren't all that bad. I think week 3 is better for you guys down that way. Week 4 probably would be more hostile there.

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HPC went with the 0z Euro mean in their discussion

"RELIED ON THE 00Z/23 ECENS MEAN TO UPDATE THE PRELIMINARY FRONTS

AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7. THE ECENS MEAN HAS BEEN STABLE

FOR A COUPLE MODEL CYCLES NOW, INDICATING A FLATTER, FASTER FLOW

ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AT THE MEDIUM RANGE THAN THE OTHER GLOBAL

NUMERICAL MODELS. THE 06Z/23 GEFS MEAN TRENDED TOWARD THE ECENS

SOLUTION, WITH THE 00Z/23 UKMET ON THE QUICK SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE

AS WELL. THE ECENS MEAN HAS BEEN A STRONG PERFORMER AT THE MEDIUM

RANGE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, IN SOME INSTANCES DEMONSTRATING

COMPARABLE SKILL A DAY OR TWO SOONER THAN THE DETERMINISTIC

MODELS. THE BIGGEST SENSIBLE WEATHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ECENS

MEAN/ECMWF AND THE SLOWER, DEVELOPED MODELS, INCLUDING THE GFS AND

GEM GLOBAL, IS CLEARING THE OHIO VALLEY OF PRECIPITATION A HALF OR

FULL DAY SOONER, WITH LESS MERIDIONAL TRANSPORT OF MOISTURE. THE

GFS GUIDANCE IS AN OUTLIER OVER THE FAR WEST WITH THE HANDLING OF

THE ENERGY COMING OFF THE PACIFIC, SO WAS NOT CONSIDERED FOR

INCLUSION IN THIS FORECAST PACKAGE THERE, EITHER."

http://www.hpc.ncep....php?disc=pmdepd

Yeah....this appears different to what they were saying at 3am.

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Week 3 looked awesome. A good -NAO with a +PNA ridge and Aleutian ridge. Week 4 got a little more messy, but verbatim up this way weren't all that bad. I think week 3 is better for you guys down that way. Week 4 probably would be more hostile there.

Thank you very much.

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lol and to ABC news hotdog.gif . Slow news day? I like how it says they have to station a police officer daily to protect the students from the marauding turkeys.

Giant nut eating squirrels and now marauding turkeys with a penchant for mayhem. If bears ever seriously set up shop here we'll probably have a national guard unit setup to protect the area.
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What a torch today before the cold settles in...up to 52F at 10:30am, feels very warm out there. BDL at 10am was still reporting 39F and fog at the same time ORH had 50F, but I'm assuming that's cleared out. With a 54/38 today ORH should pull a +7 or +8. Not that much of a torch but feels like it compared to what we've had lately.

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What a torch today before the cold settles in...up to 52F at 10:30am, feels very warm out there. BDL at 10am was still reporting 39F and fog at the same time ORH had 50F, but I'm assuming that's cleared out. With a 54/38 today ORH should pull a +7 or +8. Not that much of a torch but feels like it compared to what we've had lately.

Amazing how close my temps and ORH are. We both had the same highs and low yesterday, and again this morning we were both 38 with mulch frost. At 700 feet and lower it was foggy and in the upper 20's this morning
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Amazing how close my temps and ORH are. We both had the same highs and low yesterday, and again this morning we were both 38 with mulch frost. At 700 feet and lower it was foggy and in the upper 20's this morning

Don't worry...we'll lose this stubborn high soon and you'll go back to being warmer than ORH.
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