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On the doorstep of winter....it's coming! Pattern with banter


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No it may be more towards the 6-10th period.

Ahhh ok, yeah I just re-read the posts above... day 11-15 not day 8-10.

I like BTV's discussion regarding the upcoming system... quite the spread.

THE

ENVELOPE OF FORECAST SFC CYCLONE TRACKS FOR THIS PORTION OF THE

EXTENDED ALSO REMAINS QUITE LARGE...RANGING FROM WESTERN NEW YORK

TO NORTHWEST OF BERMUDA. WITH THE LARGE SPREAD IN THE

PATTERN...HAVE NOT STRAYED TOO FAR FROM CONTINUITY FROM THE

INHERITED FORECAST WHICH KEEPS CHANCE POPS AND TEMPS CLOSER TO

NORMAL GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE EXTENDED.

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Is PF the new Debbie Downer

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Maybe realist? I don't mean to sound like a debbie downer, I'm just actually trying to objectively look at it for operations purposes. Just saying that every storm and time period looks cold and snowy isn't really going to accomplish anything for me.

You know that I would love it to be an epic winter...but I like to know where the "threats" are out there. And by "threats" I'm not talking about snow, I'm talking about threats to current snow on the ground and open terrain (ie. rain/warmth). It can mean the difference between one week making snow on primarily existing terrain to ensure depths are deep enough to deal with a week-long warm spell, or is there a high enough probability of cold/snow occurring, so we go with a dust and run program to open as much terrain as possible. But if you do that, you are vulnerable. And that's where I like to look at the cold and snow progs with skepticism. Cold and snow is the best possible outcome and is business as usual, but we still need to identify time periods that may be a threat down the road.

I guess I'm just looking at it from a different point of view, rather than just trying to go cheerleading for snow/cold all the time. You guys are looking for cold/snow... I'm actually trying to look for periods of warmth/rain (but I obviously don't want that, I just need to identify potentials).

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EURO ens bone chilling next week, make tons of snow. Stowe the rich man's playground can afford it.

This week you can ski 3 days for $99 (3 out of 4 so you get a flex day)...there'll be another 3 for $99 deal sometime in December prior to X-Mas too (and others throughout the season). Everyone talks about the walk-up high ticket rate but you're an idiot if you just show up to any mountain and pay the listed price, haha. There's always ways around that. Also, I'm pretty sure if you reload your Evolution Stowe card ($5 for the card) online you get $72 lift ticket prices (the same price as "cheap" Mad River Glen) ;)

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This week you can ski 3 days for $99 (3 out of 4 so you get a flex day)...there'll be another 3 for $99 deal sometime in December prior to X-Mas too (and others throughout the season). Everyone talks about the walk-up high ticket rate but you're an idiot if you just show up to any mountain and pay the listed price, haha. There's always ways around that. Also, I'm pretty sure if you reload your Evolution Stowe card ($5 for the card) online you get $72 lift ticket prices (the same price as "cheap" Mad River Glen) ;)

cool how much for weeks worth of ski stay midweek?
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cool how much for weeks worth of ski stay midweek?

No idea... you're deals at Sunday River sound pretty solid. Stowe has relatively limited lodging (the big hotel and that's about it) so its not like there are hundreds of condos the resort is trying to fill on off-peak times. For a place like SR or Killington (any older ASC mountain) that has tons of resort operated lodging/condos everywhere, they probably have the advantage on the ski/stay packages because a warm bed is better than a cold one.

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Weeklies have a Aleutian/Kamchatka ridge with a +PNA look over the west with nice negative height anomalies here.

Week 4 gets messy, perhaps tied to the tropics becoming unfavorable as forecasted. It has an Aleutian ridge with a GOA trough. it then has a weak nrn Plains ridge with weak looking lower height anomalies overhead at 500mb. NAO is sort of neutral.

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Weeklies have a Aleutian/Kamchatka ridge with a +PNA look over the west with nice negative height anomalies here.

Good news.... wish I saw more ECMWF data. All I get to see is the GFS with its scarf hanging from a chairlift long range outlooks of the 0C H85 line straddling the international border from Montana to Maine.

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