turtlehurricane Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Don't we usually see huge Florida cold snaps with those SSW? or am I on crack? Yup, sudden stratospheric warmings unleash cold air into much lower latitudes than usual, goes hand in hand with stronger mid-latitude cyclones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Made it to 30 today with lots of sun. Snowpack didn't budge at all. Still a solid 3" glacier. Spoke too soon. Temps have creeped up a bit this evening. Now at the freezing mark. First time we've been AOA the freezing mark since early on the 20th. Temps are gonna tank late tonight and all through tomorrow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So I just noticed my car has snow on it again. I go outside to the snowboard and we have gotten a fresh 0.3" of fluff this morning and its snowing out. We couldnt buy a flake the first 20 days of December, and since then the snow keeps coming, forecast or not 12/21: 1.2" 12/24: 0.9" 12/26: 6.0" 12/27: 0.3" 12/28: T 12/29: 2.7" 12/30: 0.3" To top it all off, we eeked out a month of above average snowfall. As you know, the average is 9.6" and Metro Airport thus far has seen 10.6". It's crazy how that works. It took one decent snowstorm to save an otherwise lackluster month prior to Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Spoke too soon. Temps have creeped up a bit this evening. Now at the freezing mark. First time we've been AOA the freezing mark since early on the 20th. Temps are gonna tank late tonight and all through tomorrow though. Same here. It's up to 34. I was not expecting the temp to continue rising this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Some pretty decent low level WAA this evening allowing temps to creep into the 30's in S WI. Wouldn't be surprised if we make it to at or above freezing before the cold front comes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Up to 32°. Was expecting temperatures to stay steady tonight more or less. NAM says about a 7am frontal passage here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Was as warm as 34 at 4am before CAA kicked in. Down to 26 now. Will wave to the snow as it passes by to the south to impact many of the same areas that just had two systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Temps continue to leak away here. Down to 22. Decent CAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 To top it all off, we eeked out a month of above average snowfall. As you know, the average is 9.6" and Metro Airport thus far has seen 10.6". It's crazy how that works. It took one decent snowstorm to save an otherwise lackluster month prior to Christmas. And the month will probably be the 8th or 9th warmest December on record. Ill have to look closely but I think none of the other top 20 decembers had nearly this mufh snow. When I was shaking my head at the earlier assertions wed have a snowless December, I still certainly didnt thinkbitd be ABOVE normal. I went hiking at lower huron metropark yesterday and it was GORGEOUS! The fresh white powder, steel gray skies, and miles of quiet wooded scenes...its like a theraputic remedy. Like being up north without travelling outside metro Detroit. Took pics will probably be able to post them tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Not bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Not bad... The same CFS maps show January below normal down here.... Week 1 is going to be below... Week 2 above.... Maybe week 3 & 4 will be good. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Had a cheap high of 34° during the wee hours this morning. Nothing really melted today though. Down to 18° now. Will be right around +6° for this month. HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYBODY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Had a cheap high of 34° during the wee hours this morning. Nothing really melted today though. Down to 18° now. Will be right around +6° for this month. HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYBODY! Hit 34 here too before sunrise. Temps have been falling ever since. Snowpack didn't budge, still holding near 3". Looks awfully stale now though. I'm surprised it's held on as long as it has given the lack of snow since the 20th. Temps have been warm enough to cause a little melting/compaction, but due to the very low ratio of snow that fell that day it has maintained a lot better than what you'd normally expect. Oh yeah Happy New Years everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 January of '07 was terrible, only 3" of snow that month here and temps were 5 degrees higher than average. I would not like that at all SSW's always take a few weeks to get the full effects. I'd take Feb '07 any day. And unofficially it looks as if KTOL will finish with 7.0" of snow even after being screwed by a major storm. 2.8" marks the highest 1-day total which occurred twice this month (26th and 29th). Even after a horrible start, along with temperature departures near +5F, this month, all things considered, wasn't horrible. It could've been much better, but 7" in the week and a half made things bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 +6.02° for December here. For S&G I calculated what would be the monthly departure w/o those first 4 mega torch days; it was: +4.31°. So those first 4 days of the month added over 2° to the departure. 3.3" of snow, 3.15" of rain. December was one cloudy month too; 23 days mostly to completely cloudy. Highest temp: 68°, lowest: 11°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 It just keeps snowing here. I finished with 10" this month, just 27" to go until average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 SSW's always take a few weeks to get the full effects. I'd take Feb '07 any day. And unofficially it looks as if KTOL will finish with 7.0" of snow even after being screwed by a major storm. 2.8" marks the highest 1-day total which occurred twice this month (26th and 29th). Even after a horrible start, along with temperature departures near +5F, this month, all things considered, wasn't horrible. It could've been much better, but 7" in the week and a half made things bearable. Oh the month I'll never forget is January '09. I actually kept track of how many days of school I missed, we had 6 days closed and 5 more delayed! We actually had less normal days that month than delayed or closed ones. Ended with 31" at my house in that month alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Disaster. I don't know if anyone had December this warm or even hinted that positives could cover much of the country The tone was set early but the past couple weeks haven't exactly been cold east of the MS River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 First 15 days was heavily weighted on the warm side. 16-31st here averaged +2.5°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cyclone77 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Totally forgot about the near 70 temps early in the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 With a mean temp of 35.9F, Detroit tied (with 1965) for the 9th warmest December on record. This December was actually 0.4F warmer than last December! However, winter basically set in, literally, on the Winter Solstice so the warmth was certainly a product of the first 3 weeks of December. In fact, the last 10 days of December averaged ever-so-slightly colder than normal. Whats very interesting is that the snowfall total of 10.6" is not only 1 inch above normal for the month, but the snowiest of any of the 20 warmest Decembers. In fact, other than 2012, only 1994 (9.6"), which was the 15th warmest, had near-average snowfall. All others had less than 6" of snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxhstn74 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 December 2012 in the Top 10 Warmest Decembers; What Happened To Analogue Projected Cold December? http://weatherhistor...10-warmest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 December 2012 in the Top 10 Warmest Decembers; What Happened To Analogue Projected Cold December? http://weatherhistor...10-warmest.html Good analysis. Like you said, mother nature doesnt always follow a calendar lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 December 2012 in the Top 10 Warmest Decembers; What Happened To Analogue Projected Cold December? http://weatherhistor...10-warmest.html Looks like December 1923 was Toronto's warmest, although take a look at December 1877. Wow, you can't get worse than this!! http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=5051&mlyRange=1840-01-01|2006-12-01&cmdB1=Go&Month=12&Year=1877&Day=-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 December 2012 in the Top 10 Warmest Decembers; What Happened To Analogue Projected Cold December? http://weatherhistor...10-warmest.html It's interesting how in the U.S. you guys draw on temperature records from the 19th century. Although such data does exist for Canadian cities like Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal they are almost never referred to in the newspapers or on our weather channel; they always just use the airports, data for which only goes back to the late 30s/early 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Looks like December 1923 was Toronto's warmest, although take a look at December 1877. Wow, you can't get worse than this!! http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=5051&mlyRange=1840-01-01|2006-12-01&cmdB1=Go&Month=12&Year=1877&Day=-20 1877-78 is quite famous as being the "year without a winter". Google it and you should find some good stuff. Detroit had a 15.7" snowstorm at the end of January in this mild winter. Would really put to the test the assertion by some that if they get a major storm they wouldnt care how much the rest of the winter sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It's interesting how in the U.S. you guys draw on temperature records from the 19th century. Although such data does exist for Canadian cities like Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal they are almost never referred to in the newspapers or on our weather channel; they always just use the airports, data for which only goes back to the late 30s/early 40s. I like using temp records as far back as they go. It shows nice cycles...for instance the 1930s-1950s seemed to be a warm cycle (particularly 1930s and 1950s), and the 1960s-1980s a cold cycle (particularly 1970s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 1877-78 is quite famous as being the "year without a winter". Google it and you should find some good stuff. Detroit had a 15.7" snowstorm at the end of January in this mild winter. Would really put to the test the assertion by some that if they get a major storm they wouldnt care how much the rest of the winter sucked. Really interesting how the coldest ever December (1876) was followed by the torch December of 1877. December 1876 beat out even 1917 and 1989 in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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