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JB's partner in crime JD posted this tonight!

 

He said all of this is consistent with a strong strat warm and more favorable MJO as we have been projecting.

The 1976/77 and 2003/04 winters had a strat warm event and 2006/07 a mid winter reversal too. As JB posted, that winter was severe from mid January on well into February. These winters also produced some prodigious LES.

The EC actually had a -16 to -20C anomaly for the 6-10 period for the east coast.

A lot of factors - timing, snowcover and actual wind direction.

He also said this May repeat in early February with similar or more extreme levels.

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JB is running out of room for his goalposts. In general he's been saying cold and snow all winter. He is entertainment for some and more power to those that enjoy him and want to pay for that. I hope all that listen to him know he usually takes what things he sees in the pattern and then creates the most extreme possible outcome and runs with it regardless of how slim the odds. I think he has destroyed his reputation and IMO he is viewed as a joke in his field due to not being realistic and pushing the extreme outcomes even when he knows its not the most reasonable summation most times.

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JB is running out of room for his goalposts. In general he's been saying cold and snow all winter. He is entertainment for some and more power to those that enjoy him and want to pay for that. I hope all that listen to him know he usually takes what things he sees in the pattern and then creates the most extreme possible outcome and runs with it regardless of how slim the odds. I think he has destroyed his reputation and IMO he is viewed as a joke in his field due to not being realistic and pushing the extreme outcomes even when he knows its not the most reasonable summation most times.

This X 1000000!

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You guys sound like my kids when they were little. We would do something one time and then they would say, "but daddy we always do this". Maybe you should subscribe to JB to realize that he doesn't always call for snow and cold, or the most extreme conditions. Sure he likes to look for the potential in the pattern, but you guys make him out to be something and someone he is not.

 

Also, how many other forecasters have been spouting cold and snow since November?

TW

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You guys sound like my kids when they were little. We would do something one time and then they would say, "but daddy we always do this". Maybe you should subscribe to JB to realize that he doesn't always call for snow and cold, or the most extreme conditions. Sure he likes to look for the potential in the pattern, but you guys make him out to be something and someone he is not.

Also, how many other forecasters have been spouting cold and snow since November?

TW

Yes he does. He said starting from this winter, winters will be more harsh and longer lasting. Now every cold threat he sees, he tries to go find another historic cold outbreak and compare to Synoptics to the historic cold outbreaks back then. Sure he could be right and eventually will since all he ever calls for is cold. He hasn't said anything about warm this winter. When the US would be in a torch, he would jump over to Europe and say how they are in a deep freeze and how this is what the US will look like in 10-14 days. When Europe and US was warm, he would either jump to China or Russia.
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Look as i have said over and over several like to hear what jb says. Not one time have you seen anybody buy into it. You dont like him good for you. This storm here some of the best missed. Look at raleigh, and foothills predictions. Were they right no. But nobody bashed them nor should they. Its weather so nobody will always be right. For the record jb never gave any idea of how much it would snow. He just showed what models said

As far as the goalpost being moved he said Thanksgiving week that brief warm up in jan with cold coming back around jan 20 around president being sworn in. I think he was right. He said two weeks ago jma showed cold coming back next week and look what euro says now.

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Will this JB argument never die. Who gives a **** whether he is right or wrong...? Dude was just posting JB's thoughts for others to read. I really think the comeback post was in good context but it just does not help when folks around here cannot let **** go. Again who gives a flying crap if JB had been right or wrong. This goes for other mets who missed this past system in my area . Do I bash, hell no..

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Will this JB argument never die. Who gives a **** whether he is right or wrong...? Dude was just posting JB's thoughts for others to read. I really think the comeback post was in good context but it just does not help when folks around here cannot let **** go. Again who gives a flying crap if JB had been right or wrong. This goes for other mets who missed this past system in my area . Do I bash, hell no..

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All I did was say since when has the JMA ever been right. Then came the smart alecks.

Come on now. You knew good and well how that would come across. Virtually every time someone talks about JB, there is a hate fest.

So when the JMA gets mentioned as quoted from JB and you say "when has the JMA ever been right", it comes across as "that idiot is using the JMA. What kind of moron would use the JMA since we all know that model is never right?" You know that. You were just being surly again.

If you really wanted to discuss the JMA's accuracy, you would have said something like, "anybody know how the JMA compares to the other models?". You're not a dummy. You knew how you were saying it.

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Yes he does. He said starting from this winter, winters will be more harsh and longer lasting. Now every cold threat he sees, he tries to go find another historic cold outbreak and compare to Synoptics to the historic cold outbreaks back then. Sure he could be right and eventually will since all he ever calls for is cold. He hasn't said anything about warm this winter. When the US would be in a torch, he would jump over to Europe and say how they are in a deep freeze and how this is what the US will look like in 10-14 days. When Europe and US was warm, he would either jump to China or Russia.

 

You must follow him on twitter? or dare I say subscribe to his site??? You seem to know his ever move... Nice :)

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You must follow him on twitter? or dare I say subscribe to his site??? You seem to know his ever move... Nice :)

Twitter ha! Even folks that retweet him and ryan maue say where is the Arctic outbreak.His thoughts are interesting sometimes, but it gets old when he constantly calls for cold and it never pans out.
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JB is running out of room for his goalposts. In general he's been saying cold and snow all winter. He is entertainment for some and more power to those that enjoy him and want to pay for that. I hope all that listen to him know he usually takes what things he sees in the pattern and then creates the most extreme possible outcome and runs with it regardless of how slim the odds. I think he has destroyed his reputation and IMO he is viewed as a joke in his field due to not being realistic and pushing the extreme outcomes even when he knows its not the most reasonable summation most times.

It's clear that you don't subscribe to his site. Maybe then you would know what his actual forecast was instead of what you are portraying to others that it is. His forecast has been pretty spot on for jan. Yes, he was calling for an above normal southeast and southern midatlantic for jan. Did you know this, or did you just assume he was calling for brutal cold for us?
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Again, you are showing that you are only talking IMB. The arctic outbreak is over the plains, great lakes and new England. The next time you look at a weather map look at the U.S as a whole.

There has not been an arctic outbreak in the plains. I know a co worker who was in wisconsin last weekend. No snow and temps in the 20s is what she went home to.

I don't subscribe to JB you are correct there. I do read his twitter page and from what I see there my comment from last night reamins unchanged. I don't blame those who buy his service if it brings you joy. I don't care for the man as a met and I think he has been wrong over and over agin for about two years now. He has not been wrong everytime but more often than not he's swung for the fences and come up empty.

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Again, you are showing that you are only talking IMB. The arctic outbreak is over the plains, great lakes and new England. The next time you look at a weather map look at the U.S as a whole.

Lol you have got to be getting kidding me. Next time someone says this winter sucks, I will say there is snow up on top of Mount Washington. We are the SE. Not the NE or Midwest.
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There has not been an arctic outbreak in the plains. I know a co worker who was in wisconsin last weekend. No snow and temps in the 20s is what she went home to.

I don't subscribe to JB you are correct there. I do read his twitter page and from what I see there my comment from last night reamins unchanged. I don't blame those who buy his service if it brings you joy. I don't care for the man as a met and I think he has been wrong over and over agin for about two years now. He has not been wrong everytime but more often than not he's swung for the fences and come up empty.

 

 I largely agree with you. Though snowfall in the Midwest and NE was plentiful during the last half, JB's December forecast was absolutely horrible in terms of temperatures: F. No two ways about it. I don't see how anyone who is truly objective can disagree. Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't call for the recent Jan. record torch. He may do quite well from here on out to salvage an ok winter, but there's no way he'll get a really good grade overall due to the first half being so far off.

 

 He definitely tends to swing for the extreme analogs over and over, which isn't good imo. Mentioning them as just a possibility is one thing. Highlighting them over and over as if they're likely to be repeated is different. For example, during late Jan. of 2001, he kept calling for another Feb. 1899 in Feb. 2001. He incorrectly kept emphasizing a major cold blast in FEB 01 with references to the "ghost of 1899" over and over. Feb. 01 verified to be very warm.

 

Edit: I do think he has improved vs. how he was back in the early to mid 2000's, when he had a below normal temp. prediction for the NE every winter from 2000-1 through 2005-6. (I kept notes on this). At least now he sometimes doesn't call for cold there.

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Yes he does. He said starting from this winter, winters will be more harsh and longer lasting. Now every cold threat he sees, he tries to go find another historic cold outbreak and compare to Synoptics to the historic cold outbreaks back then. Sure he could be right and eventually will since all he ever calls for is cold. He hasn't said anything about warm this winter. When the US would be in a torch, he would jump over to Europe and say how they are in a deep freeze and how this is what the US will look like in 10-14 days. When Europe and US was warm, he would either jump to China or Russia.

You're not nearly old enough to make a judgement on the definition of "always" in this context.  JB was forecasting when you were nothing more than a gleam in your daddy's eye.

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 I largely agree with you. Though snowfall in the Midwest and NE was plentiful during the last half, JB's December forecast was absolutely horrible in terms of temperatures: F. No two ways about it. I don't see how anyone who is truly objective can disagree. Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't call for the recent Jan. record torch. He may do quite well from here on out to salvage an ok winter, but there's no way he'll get a really good grade overall due to the first half being so far off.

 

 He definitely tends to swing for the extreme analogs over and over, which isn't good imo. Mentioning them as just a possibility is one thing. Highlighting them over and over as if they're likely to be repeated is different. For example, during late Jan. of 2001, he kept calling for another Feb. 1899 in Feb. 2001. He incorrectly kept emphasizing a major cold blast in FEB 01 with references to the "ghost of 1899" over and over. Feb. 01 verified to be very warm.

Actually he did call for the warm up on one of his Saturday summary 2 weeks before it happened.

He said it would be warmer than what the models were showing and

that the warm up would be short lived which it was.His saturday summary last week 1/12 showed 2 below

normal temps for 1/15 til 3/1 with above normal snow for much of southeast.If you don't trust his forecast

then why even look at them? I don't trust Obama so I don't listen to him. EVER

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Per JB video this morning the next 30-maybe 40 days is it for the cold, when the pattern flips sometime mid Feb to late Feb may wait till first of March? IT'S OVER! He says he don't think the winter will linger into march in the east... NOW this is not just the southeast it's the east he's referring to... But it looks cold over all next 30 days in the east.... mentions central plains not much snow because not much southern stream, so we would need some major digging short wave from the north for us to cash in...

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