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Stuffing and Snow - Late November Banter and Obs


HoarfrostHubb

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Euro day 10 itself is bad, but if euro was correct it would probably setup for a good early December.

Yeah if you extrapolate the D10 Euro it would look pretty good actually for the end of the month into December most likely...but extrapolating OP runs beyond D10 is kind of a silly experiment to begin with.

It doesn't really disagree with the ensmebles in that it is folding the Aleutian Ridge block over the EPO region and dumping an immense amount of cold into Canada...there's literally a train of high presure directly from Siberia marching down the east side of that block into NE AK, then Canada and finally the high plains of Montana. As the GOA/PAC NW trough retrogrades a bit, everything would press south into a gradient pattern...if we ever popped a -NAO, it would get very cold in the east.

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I think it is sort of meh to start, but as long as it doesn't regress....I think it will improve in successive steps. I guess what I mean is I could invision something where we start out with a cutter (doesn't mean a 980 low..could be a fropa), and then maybe a cool shot followed by a messy low..maybe a little mix in the interior..followed by a deeper push of colder air and then maybe something bigger down the road..especially with a -NAO. Again, if the pattern doesn't regress which for now, seems like it won't. That's sort of the approach I'm going with and why I am waiting until we get into December by a few days at least.

It sort of looks like that on the ensembles actually...but it may take time oozing it into the nrn tier with the PAC flow into the US. Might be some signs down the road on the ensembles of a weak -NAO...but that is getting out there.

Posted this in the winter thread.

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Just enjoying the cold dry pattern now and next week until we get to winter after25th.

Enjoy the cold, not a single high forecast in the 40s here or low in the 20s . OKX going with mostly sunny and 54 for Tday as expected, that temp will only creep up as we get closer to the holidays. Today was cold for sure, after this its just rots, Euro is a mild pattern next week.

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Enjoy the cold, not a single high forecast in the 40s here or low in the 20s . OKX going with mostly sunny and 54 for Tday as expected, that temp will only creep up as we get closer to the holidays. Today was cold for sure, after this its just rots, Euro is a mild pattern next week.

I don't follow OKX so no clue about them or what they forecast. As mets on here have preaching.. It's not a mild or warm pattern. It's slightly below to normal thru next week. I'll enjoy that for now
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Gotta love mesoscale banding. What I love here is you can see the importance of elevation in the NW Hills (only a little snow melted quickly in the valleys the following morning) while mesoscale banding from HVN to ORH trumps all.

That's a really great shot. I can see why hubbdave bent a skipole around his neck...and of course why MPM was inside his barn building gallows during the virga.

There was another area in E MA that did ok too...from west side of BOS down 95...though not nearly as good as that main band did.

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I don't follow OKX so no clue about them or what they forecast. As mets on here have preaching.. It's not a mild or warm pattern. It's slightly below to normal thru next week. I'll enjoy that for now

Hey now 65% of the state lives in OKX's area, and I can't imagine many crazy negative departures given that normals are practically 40s/20s now for inland areas.

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That's a really great shot. I can see why hubbdave bent a skipole around his neck...and of course why MPM was inside his barn building gallows during the virga.

There was another area in E MA that did ok too...from west side of BOS down 95...though not nearly as good as that main band did.

The second little jackpot area like Oct 2011 had too ironically. Some CF enhancement I would imagine. Well actually you saw it first hand when we were talking lol.

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