ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 But it's all relative, the anomalies present at the airports should translate well to areas away from the airport. No one was talking about temperatures in absolute terms. Speaking of this. I was wondering if my thermometer is off or I have better radiation here than the airport. I've been consistently 5 degrees colder at night. I thought maybe the the higher elevations closer to my SE are draining into my lower elevation location. I'm about 100 ft lower than the airport, too. Yes. This concept get failed upon a lot of times. Also, LL is bringing up ORH when he specifically mentioned BOS in his post I quoted, lol. If anything, I would think the good radiational cooling stations this month are doing colder relative to normal than a site like ORH because we've had a disproportionately high number of perfect radiational cooling nights. CAD setups or strong CAA setups is where ORH will put up the impressive cold anomalies...we haven't really had much of that this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yes. This concept get failed upon a lot of times. Also, LL is bringing up ORH when he specifically mentioned BOS in his post I quoted, lol. If anything, I would think the good radiational cooling stations this month are doing colder relative to normal than a site like ORH because we've had a disproportionately high number of perfect radiational cooling nights. CAD setups or strong CAA setups is where ORH will put up the impressive cold anomalies...we haven't really had much of that this month. I only brought up orh in quoting Steves post that none of the big 4 would be close to -1 for the month. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 LL is also forgetting BDR is leading the - departure parade with a -3.2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I only brought up orh in quoting Steves post that none of the big 4 would be close to -1 for the month. lol. Oh I see...that is fair. I think ORH has a good chance to finish colder than -1 for the month though. The other stations are pretty much a guaranteed lock to finish colder than -1...probably some -2 to -3 readings in there. Especially the local torch station that is BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Pretty bitter month overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I am not forgetting anything, its been a steady cold month, I am already 1/3 of the way to my average snowfall there is nothing really to argue. My only point was the ridiculously cold departures from early in the month would level out, they have but that's to be expected as its harder to influence the average temp as the month goes on and obviously even some of these -1 to -5 days have brought down the mean. Its been a cold and snowy month here, end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 back to CT today from Stowe...sucks going back. Traffic should be...fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Hopefully we can start getting some precip in here. Its been a dry month despite the snow event we had. We definitely do not want a dry winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 In my opinion anything over -2 is a solid cold month, anything over -4 is extremely impressive and the same goes on the positive side. I think it had been so warm for so long that finally getting a below normal month, with a stretch of cold cloudy days and northeast winds really felt cold compared to where we had been. I just hope we can take advantage of a favorable pattern during the middle of December, and that Christmas does not torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Should we think about WWA for the snow squalls Friday night? The KFS is scaring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Pretty bitter month overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 I messed up when I thought the other day's 19.1 was my cold for the month. I hit 14 on the 6th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Alright, alright, you can take the cap off your 1 post /day limit about 2010. lol I just don't want our expectations high because of this logical fallacy: December 2010 had an inland track and then a coastal storm so December 2012 will have a coastal storm because it will have an inland track before it. This statement is not true, even though we say things like this all the time in long range. You can see from the Roundy maps how this setup looks much different than 2010 beyond the cutter; and as you said, there is no summertime ridge coming from Greenland haha. Man there was just something about those Decembers and you could see the KU storm coming a mile away. Heck you didn't even have to look at much. There are just some things (albeit a few) missing from this upcoming period for me, anway, to make an extreme call like that.. but it's close. Agreed. Just talking about those months can send the wrong message to some folks. and I'm certainly not expecting another boxing day blizzard anytime soon, let alone this month.. you know how I feel about that storm. All one has to do is peak at the trop pacific/expected mjo activity versus 2010 and there is already a blaring difference, hence the Roundy maps.. Those were certainly special times, particularly 2009-2010 was obvious from a KU standpoint. Got stuck in lower manhattan at evening rush hour. It took an hour to move 3 blocks....lol. Frosty Princeton morning in the woods here. Remember folks, it's 11/20. A nice reminder. Living in the medium range every day, I could have sworn it was the end of Novy in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Cold and dry is no good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 NJwinter's avatar is like winter '11/'12. Haha I know I'm kinda of rubbing it in hanging out in the new england thread...but I did have that before the superbowl and long-removed from the 2008 superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Haha I know I'm kinda of rubbing it in hanging out in the new england thread...but I did have that before the superbowl and long-removed from the 2008 superbowl. I'm kidding around. Dam good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Should we think about WWA for the snow squalls Friday night? The KFS is scaring me. You think some towns could see an inch or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 I'm kidding around. Dam good games. Hoping for a rematch this season... someday we will figure them out. Anyway, wxwise, I wish we could fast forward a week or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 wind direction has too much of a northerly component for SNE to get squalls from the lakes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Hoping for a rematch this season... someday we will figure them out. Anyway, wxwise, I wish we could fast forward to Dec 5th Yeah, Me to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 You think some towns could see an inch or 2? I think any of us in SNE will be lucky to see a flake or two. It looks a lot drier in the low/mid-levels than it did a coupel days ago. I'm sure the upslope areas around Mitch in W MA will see some flakes. We'll need to see it trend back sharper/deeper with the ULL and moisten up the lower 6 or 7k feet if we want more widespread snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I'm kidding around. Dam good games. No doubt about it. I applaud your perspective there though, not sure I would have been as good a sport if on the losing end of those hard fought games. then again, a 3 superbowl dynasty in the 2000s is a nice thing to fall back on! Without the recent run I would only have bill parcells and phil simms when i was in a diaper to fall back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 No doubt about it. I applaud your perspective there though, not sure I would have been as good a sport if on the losing end of those hard fought games. then again, a 3 superbowl dynasty in the 2000s is a nice thing to fall back on! Without the recent run I would only have bill parcells and phil simms when i was in a diaper to fall back on Well it came down to a couple of plays that you guys made and we couldn't. It's football and with one and done games...you have to bring your A-game. 2008 SB was more frustrating for me..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 You think some towns could see an inch or 2? What makes you think squalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 What makes you think squalls? Strong arctic push/ low level moisture/ instability esp wit time of year. Just think We see some snow showers and squalls around Sat Pm and eve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Strong arctic push/ low level moisture/ instability esp wit time of year. Just think We see some snow showers and squalls around Sat Pm and eve We are going to need to see WINDEX parameters improve a lot between now and then to expect more thna a stray flake or three. The lapse rates are decent, but we lack good lifting mechanism and moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Strong arctic push/ low level moisture/ instability esp wit time of year. Just think We see some snow showers and squalls around Sat Pm and eve I could see a line of showers perhaps along the front, but the airmass is too warm for snow, unlike mid winter setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Lets retread this one... The pattern change starts 12/10 and is complete 12/25. It may not be the pattern we want though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Lets retread this one... The pattern change starts 12/10 and is complete 12/25. It may not be the pattern we want though.... Start a new thread. Christmas Miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Dry FROPA Dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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