earthlight Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Amazing that the record for longest below 32F stretch was in December. Another stat that shows just how obscene Dec '89 was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think I may blog about Dec 89 tonight. I took a bit of a blog break after the snowstorm bust lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 NAO negative but not obscenely so. Strongly negative EPO is the key IMO to bitterly cold air in the United States. The complete cutting off of the Pacific jet and cross-polar flow connection from Siberia to Canada brings the goods most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 No comments on the 18z GFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 NAO negative but not obscenely so. Strongly negative EPO is the key IMO to bitterly cold air in the United States. The complete cutting off of the Pacific jet and cross-polar flow connection from Siberia to Canada brings the goods most of the time. Yeah the monster -EPO and -AO delivered the goods into NAOM. The ridging over western Canada/U.S. locked in the +PNA and kept the trough in place over eastern U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Have to remember Thanksgiving is very early this year..the last time I remember Thanksgiving on the 22nd was 1973,,it was 70 degrees..also the day Kennedy died in 63,,it was in the low 60's JFK was not assasinated on Thanksgiving Day. It was a regular school day...I was in 11th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think I may blog about Dec 89 tonight. I took a bit of a blog break after the snowstorm bust lol. Ton of stuff here http://www.erh.noaa.gov/btv/events/Dec1989/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Bang a -3.51 AO with a 1055 high, yea it gets friggin cold, the midsection of the country was insanely cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 All snow in December, yes climo favors a mix, you should study up on climo of sne............really upset your cloudy low 40s turkey day did not work out:( I would have to disagree. Since 2000 bdr has seen a good amount of all snow events in december...climo of recent has offer great december snows all the way to coast...having a all snow event in the next 4-6 weeks is really not hard to do. 8 inches of snow on the beaches in early november will be far less likely, then having a snowstorm in the middle of december Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I would have to disagree. Since 2000 bdr has seen a good amount of all snow events in december...climo of recent has offer great december snows all the way to coast...having a all snow event in the next 4-6 weeks is really not hard to do. 8 inches of snow on the beaches in early november will be far less likely, then having a snowstorm in the middle of december Getting all snow events on the sw ct coas in December is not easy, history and climo would argue that a mix if not rain is more likely than all snow in my locale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Getting all snow events on the sw ct coast is not easy, history and climo would argue that a mix if not rain is more likely than all snow in my locale. The average high at BDR in December is 42.3 degrees, its not even close, sure it snows here in December sometimes often however, climo argues that its easier to get rain or a mix than an all snow event here in December, maybe Ryan can chime in but its really not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The average high at BDR in December is 42.3 degrees, its not even close, sure it snows here in December sometimes often however, climo argues that its easier to get rain or a mix than an all snow event here in December, maybe Ryan can chime in but its really not even close. You make it seem alot harder then it really is...avg snowfall at bdr is 5.6 for december. Since 2000 most of bdr major snowfalls have been in december...i feel basing ur argument on a avg mean temp is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 You make it seem alot harder then it really is...avg snowfall at bdr is 5.6 for december. Since 2000 most of bdr major snowfalls have been in december...i feel basing ur argument on a avg mean temp is laughable What exactly are you arguing? Are you telling me that my location is more likely to have an all snow event then a mix or rain event in December If you are, because that was my only point, your flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The average high at BDR in December is 42.3 degrees, its not even close, sure it snows here in December sometimes often however, climo argues that its easier to get rain or a mix than an all snow event here in December, maybe Ryan can chime in but its really not even close. Your avg at bdr in january is 7.9 and mean temp 37.1...mean temp should tell you nothing about snowfall during a month..to me ur case needs more support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Who cares, mix events are a thing of the past for coastal areas anyway. It's now snow or no. State College's average snowfall has dropped by about 50" in the last 10 years due to the high frequency of coastal storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Your avg at bdr in january is 7.9 and mean temp 37.1...mean temp should tell you nothing about snowfall during a month..to me ur case needs more support Lol your obviously trolling., or you have no idea what my original point was. It was pretty simple based on climo, my location is much more likely to have rain or a mixed precip event than all snow. It's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 What exactly are you arguing? Are you telling me that my location is more likely to have an all snow event then a mix or rain event in December If you are, because that was my only point, your flat out wrong. You are saying climo argues against a all snow event in sw ct in the next 4-6 weeks... i feel climo does not..since 2000 it has been a very common event...please follow along...a mean temp does not back ur point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Who cares, mix events are a thing of the past for coastal areas anyway. It's now snow or no. State College's average snowfall has dropped by about 50" in the last 10 years due to the high frequency of coastal storms. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Lol your obviously trolling., or you have no idea what my original point was. It was pretty simple based on climo, my location is much more likely to have rain or a mixed precip event than all snow. It's pretty simple. You always cry trolling when a discussion does not go ur way...ur original post of 4-6 weeks/climo was just to get peoples panties in a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I feel like I am in a Twilight Zone episode........sw coastal ct is now more likely to have an all snow event in December than a mixed or rain event....who would have thunk it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Will, Ryan..am I missing something is my area more likely to see an all frozen event in December than an event that is a mix or rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I feel like I am in a Twilight Zone episode........sw coastal ct is now more likely to have an all snow event in December than a mixed or rain event....who would have thunk it? Now here you go twisting peoples words, so you can fool urself in thinking ur correct...i never said likely, i stated since 2000 climo has not argued against it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Now here you go twisting peoples words, so you can fool urself in thinking ur correct...i never said likely, i stated since 2000 climo has not argued against it... No you disagreed with my statement that my area was more likely to see rain or a mixed event in December than an all snow event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Will, Ryan..am I missing something is my area more likely to see an all frozen event in December than an event that is a mix or rain? When did i use more likely ? You cry like a school girl when u lose..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 No you disagreed with my statement that my area was more likely to see rain or a mixed event in December than an all snow event. No i disagreed with ur climo argues against it post...with is foolish statement because of whar has happen in december since 2000... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 TU Fball about to be on 60 minutes. Check us out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Better Luck next time Luck.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy crap. You two fighting again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy crap. You two fighting again? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Holy crap. You two fighting again? gonna be a long season...not even met winter yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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