michsnowfreak Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Slight neg. departure at FWA doesn't surprise me considering how well they fared last winter. Huge neg. departure at Lansing is the most surprising imo. Keep in mind those are departures from LAST WINTER not departures from normal. Great work as usual Tim. Most places a surplus. The Lansing area is the scewzone of MI this winter. Its not surprising if you follow the weather here as they have just been dodging everything but the usual 1-2" type events (one 3"+ event for the season, that being 3.6"), but it is indeed crazy to see Detroit a clipper away from DOUBLING Lansings total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Keep in mind those are departures from LAST WINTER not departures from normal. Great work as usual Tim. Most places a surplus. The Lansing area is the scewzone of MI this winter. Its not surprising if you follow the weather here as they have just been dodging everything but the usual 1-2" type events (one 3"+ event for the season, that being 3.6"), but it is indeed crazy to see Detroit a clipper away from DOUBLING Lansings total. Yeah, I know. I had no idea LAN did so well last winter and has sucked so much ass this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah, I know. I had no idea LAN did so well last winter and has sucked so much ass this winter. Yeah. Its crazy how you always find a place that managed to stray from the general theme of the winter. Case in point...last winter Lansing had three significant snowstorms. 8.1" Nov 29/30, 5.3" Jan 13/14, and 7.3" Feb 23/24. This winter their BIGGEST storm has been 3.6". the ONLY thing i will say is that the cold has at least given them snowcover this winter. In 2011-12, despite nearly 40" falling, they totaled only 29 days with 1"+ snowcover, way below the norm of 67 days. This winters 24" of snow has been enough to yield them 58 days of 1"+ snowcover. So its basically the storm vs the snowcover weenies as to which would be the more tolerable Lansing winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Toronto Pearson Airport (YYZ) is just 0.1" shy of the 40" mark for the season. As of yesterday, they're at 39.9" (101.3 cm). Pretty impressive considering the first measurable snowfall didn't occur until December 20th, 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Toronto Pearson Airport (YYZ) is just 0.1" shy of the 40" mark for the season. As of yesterday, they're at 39.9" (101.3 cm). Pretty impressive considering the first measurable snowfall didn't occur until December 20th, 2012. This winter is turning out to be a poor man's version of 1993-94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Likewise.....DTW was at 0.4" through Dec 20, 2012...and is at 47.2" on Mar 20, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 2012-13 season snowfall totals and departures to date.Updated through March 25, 2013.ILLINOISChicago ORD: 30.0" -4.4" Lincoln ILX: 23.0" +2.9"Moline MLI: 34.5" +4.3" Peoria PIA: 22.7" -1.0"Rockford RFD: 40.5" +5.3" Springfield SPI: 33.1" +12.7" INDIANAEvansville EVV: 12.3" +0.7" Fort Wayne FWA: 38.5" +6.4"Indianapolis IND: 34.4" +8.9"South Bend SBN: 59.8" -4.7" IOWADavenport DVN: 27.1" NA Des Moines DSM: 48.3" +15.6" Dubuque DBQ: 54.5" +15.5"Mason City MCW: 45.6" +8.1" Sioux City SUX: 31.5" -0.5"Waterloo ALO: 48.2" +15.4" KENTUCKYBowling Green BWG: 3.3" -5.4" Jackson JKL: 18.8" -3.3" Lexington LEX: 11.8" -0.7" Louisville SDF: 9.5" -2.8" Paducah PAH: 6.7" -2.4" MICHIGANAlpena APN: 45.5" -31.0"Detroit DTW: 47.6" +7.7" Flint FNT: 43.5" -0.8" Gaylord APX: 139.8" +0.5" Grand Rapids GRR: 65.1" -7.3" Houghton Lake HTL: 57.1" -4.4" Lansing LAN: 29.7" -18.8" Marquette MQT: 178.7" -3.5"Muskegon MKG: 98.6" +8.1" Sault Ste Marie ANJ: 138.8" +27.2" MINNESOTA Chanhassen MPX: 49.1" +0.1"Duluth DLH: 78.3" +1.4" International Falls INL: 84.9" +21.8"Minneapolis MSP: 49.3" -1.5" Rochester RST: 55.3" +7.9" St. Cloud STC: 54.1" +12.5" MISSOURIColumbia COU: 35.0" +17.4" Kansas City MCI: 31.2" +13.2" St. Louis STL: 27.9" +10.8" Springfield SGF: 11.3" NA OHIOAkron/Canton CAK: 46.7" +3.1" Cincinnati CVG: 24.9" +3.6" Cleveland CLE: 51.2" -11.8" Columbus CMH: 41.1" +15.9" Dayton DAY: 35.5" +13.2" Mansfield MFD: 39.2" -5.6" Toledo TOL: 22.1" -13.4" Youngstown YNG: 78.3" +20.1" ONTARIOHamilton YHM: 40.8" NA (thru 3/22, missing data) London YXU: 54.1" NA (thru 3/24)Ottawa YOW: 95.6" NA (thru 3/24) Toronto Downtown: 48.5" (thru 3/24, missing data) Toronto YYZ: 40.3" NA (thru 3/24)Windsor YQG: 50.9" (thru 3/24) WISCONSINEau Claire EAU: 66.2" +22.6" Green Bay GRB: 66.4" +19.1" La Crosse LSE: 55.6" +14.9" Madison MSN: 70.3" +23.2" Milwaukee MKE: 44.6" +0.6" Rhinelander RHI: 67.9" NA Wausau AUW: 68.7" +14.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 LOT put together a page showing every major snow event that affected the cwa. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/?n=1213snowevents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 LOT put together a page showing every major snow event that affected the cwa. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/?n=1213snowevents Not sure why they even included the dec event. Shows clearly how backloaded this winter was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Not sure why they even included the dec event. Shows clearly how backloaded this winter was Yeah that storm was only good for two or three counties. This was the heaviest back loaded winter I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 2012-13 season snowfall totals and departures to date. Updated through March 25, 2013. MICHIGAN Alpena APN: 45.5" -31.0" Detroit DTW: 47.6" +7.7" Flint FNT: 43.5" -0.8" Gaylord APX: 139.8" +0.5" Grand Rapids GRR: 65.1" -7.3" Houghton Lake HTL: 57.1" -4.4" Lansing LAN: 29.7" -18.8" Marquette MQT: 178.7" -3.5" Muskegon MKG: 98.6" +8.1" Sault Ste Marie ANJ: 138.8" +27.2" What an odd snowfall distribution in MI....it was if the state was sliced in streaks of above and below normal snowfall. The I-94 corridor in southern MI did well lake effect-wise, and you can add synoptically as well to SE MI (not so much SW MI). ARB (not a first-order station) actually cracked 60" with approximately 37" to their west in Jackson and 47.6" to their east at DTW. Detroits southern and north/northeastern suburbs also had above normal snowfall, but the far northwest suburbs towards had below normal snowfall, and in fact well below normal once you get towards Lansing. Despite the immediate southern burbs of Detroit doing well, once you got into extreme southern MI towards the OH/IN border (the southern half of the bottom row of counties) snowfall was well below normal. Getting back north of Detroit...the streak of low snowfall in the far NW burbs/Lansing halted in the Flint/Saginaw area with more normal conditions, but once you get to the snowbelt in northern lower (Gaylord) snowfall was above normal, but to the northeast of the belt, snowfall was WAY below normal (Alpena never saw a 6" storm!). Lake effect paralyzed Muskegan...and a wonderful mix of lake effect and synoptic gave the eastern U.P. their best winter in YEARS. Maquette had a crazy back-loaded winter, but is just a few inches shy of normal thanks to winters nonstart. That will probably be as exhausting to read as it was to type! I tried to do a map but obviously with not a ton of stations to go by I cant guarentee perfect accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Windsor even had more snow than Detroit and just afew inches shy of London. I think the LES snow guns were the largest dissapointment his winter season... For me in the tropics of Ontario nothing but smiles.... Still hoping for a 10"+ storm for the feather in the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman1952 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ya know a winter is messed up, like this year, when Detroit gets more snow in the season than Alpena. If I lived in Alpena I think I'd be pulling my hair out lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 What an odd snowfall distribution in MI....it was if the state was sliced in streaks of above and below normal snowfall. The I-94 corridor in southern MI did well lake effect-wise, and you can add synoptically as well to SE MI (not so much SW MI). ARB (not a first-order station) actually cracked 60" with approximately 37" to their west in Jackson and 47.6" to their east at DTW. Detroits southern and north/northeastern suburbs also had above normal snowfall, but the far northwest suburbs towards had below normal snowfall, and in fact well below normal once you get towards Lansing. Despite the immediate southern burbs of Detroit doing well, once you got into extreme southern MI towards the OH/IN border (the southern half of the bottom row of counties) snowfall was well below normal. Getting back north of Detroit...the streak of low snowfall in the far NW burbs/Lansing halted in the Flint/Saginaw area with more normal conditions, but once you get to the snowbelt in northern lower (Gaylord) snowfall was above normal, but to the northeast of the belt, snowfall was WAY below normal (Alpena never saw a 6" storm!). Lake effect paralyzed Muskegan...and a wonderful mix of lake effect and synoptic gave the eastern U.P. their best winter in YEARS. Maquette had a crazy back-loaded winter, but is just a few inches shy of normal thanks to winters nonstart. That will probably be as exhausting to read as it was to type! I tried to do a map but obviously with not a ton of stations to go by I cant guarentee perfect accuracy. NW lower isn't above normal this season. Traverse City northward is slightly below to just normal. Manistee southward, def above normal. Alpena got screwed by a persistant storm track that left northern MI with rain while Wisconsin got dumped on. LE saved western MI. Gaylord (NWS) 139.8 received 140.0 normal to date 144.3 normal for season ----------------------------------- Traverse City/Munson 88.1 received 93.5 normal to date 98.2 normal for season interesting TC sits in a weird spot. no area in the vicinity around them receives anything less than 100" and in a lot of cases 125". They're the banana belt on NW lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 NW lower isn't above normal this season. Traverse City northward is slightly below to just normal. Manistee southward, def above normal. Alpena got screwed by a persistant storm track that left northern MI with rain while Wisconsin got dumped on. LE saved western MI. Gaylord (NWS) 139.8 received 140.0 normal to date 144.3 normal for season ----------------------------------- Traverse City/Munson 88.1 received 93.5 normal to date 98.2 normal for season interesting TC sits in a weird spot. no area in the vicinity around them receives anything less than 100" and in a lot of cases 125". They're the banana belt on NW lower Thanks i will try and update later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 2012-13 monthly/season snowfall totals through March. March "out-snowed" December and January in the region. Of course January was pitiful. Red highlighted box indicates a below normal month, and green highlighted an above normal month. Nothing means there is no average measurable snowfall for that month. Gray highlighted for cities/sites means no snowfall normals available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Really amazing. If someone had told me last fall that CMH would beat places like Chicago, Toronto, and Toledo, and would have a +40" season, I would have been waiting for the one blockbuster storm. (ie March '08 app-runner event). In reality we had no storm that will go in the record books...or even the memory bank this past winter. In fact imby only one event scraped the minimum of a warning event. This winter will win the award for most forgetful +40" snowfall season ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 2012-13 season snowfall totals and departures to date. Updated through March 25, 2013. WISCONSIN Eau Claire EAU: 66.2" +22.6" Green Bay GRB: 66.4" +19.1" La Crosse LSE: 55.6" +14.9" Madison MSN: 70.3" +23.2" Milwaukee MKE: 44.6" +0.6" Rhinelander RHI: 67.9" NA Wausau AUW: 68.7" +14.7" Still amazed at the difference between MSN and MKE - only ~60 miles away. As I like to say, the lake giveth and taketh away. A lot more taking away this year... Most of that difference is marginal temps in MKE due to the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Still amazed at the difference between MSN and MKE - only ~60 miles away. As I like to say, the lake giveth and taketh away. A lot more taking away this year... Most of that difference is marginal temps in MKE due to the lake. The NORMAL is a 25" inch difference, which is pretty significant for being 60 miles apart, which reveals the micro climate. This year was just more pronounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Madison has caught up and surpassed Milwaukee, though it's close, starting essentially in the early 80's. 20 year season snowfall averages per the charts from this thread. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39057-lakesmidwestohio-valley-season-snowfall-project/ 1884-85 to 1898-99 MSN: 40.8" MKE: 50.9" 1899-00 to 1918-19 MSN: 35.8" MKE: 46.4" 1919-20 to 1938-39 MSN: 36.8" MKE: 44.5" 1939-40 to 1958-59 MSN: 39.1" MKE: 41.0" 1959-60 to 1978-79 MSN: 42.2" MKE: 53.5" 1979-80 to 1998-99 MSN: 49.1" MKE: 47.9" 1999-00 to 2011-12 MSN: 50.4" MKE: 49.8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Still amazed at the difference between MSN and MKE - only ~60 miles away. As I like to say, the lake giveth and taketh away. A lot more taking away this year... Most of that difference is marginal temps in MKE due to the lake. more like 75-80 miles and the storm track in Dec/Jan was not favorable at all.. nothing really to do with the lake. Mapquest from my house to the state capitol is 83 miles. from the Milwaukee airport it would be 85 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 When doing monthly recaps, DTX now puts rankings for the monthly temp, precip, and snow... For DTW.... Season snowfall at the close of Feb was 44.5", which ranked as the 21st snowiest on record (133 yrs) of snow seasons through the close of Feb. Season snowfall at the close of Mar was 47.6", which ranks as the 34th snowiest on record (133 yrs) of snow seasons through the close of Mar. With just a T of snow in Apr...will 47.6" be the final number? If so this will be the 39th snowiest winter in 133 years of record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Season totals Gaylord: 151.8" The Soo: 152.9" who wins the battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Season totals Gaylord: 151.8" The Soo: 152.9" who wins the battle? Hmm, anyone's guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hmm, anyone's guess? The Soo....further north has a better chance for a last minute spring surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The Soo....further north has a better chance for a last minute spring surprise. we have a decent shot at a good nw lake event this weekend so idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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