TugHillMatt Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 VERY nice comback for Muskegan! After a disastrous start (through 12/20), DTW is now in the green! Through Feb 3rd: 25.4" +0.6". We will be adding to this today and tomorrow. That is for sure! It has been all lake effect/enhanced too. Since it compacts a ton, we have not been able to get much more than a foot for snow depth. It is very beautiful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 That is for sure! It has been all lake effect/enhanced too. Since it compacts a ton, we have not been able to get much more than a foot for snow depth. It is very beautiful though. Similar here. We haven't gotten quite as much as Muskegon using GRR stats, but I believe my location is probably about the same as what blackrock is seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Similar here. We haven't gotten quite as much as Muskegon using GRR stats, but I believe my location is probably about the same as what blackrock is seeing. I actually get more than the Muskegon airport, which is where totals are measured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Season snowfall totals through February 4 for 2011-12 (first number), 2012-13 (second number), and the change from this year to last year (third number). Akron/Canton (CAK): 19.3".....29.5" +10.2" Alpena (APN): 25.9".....21.5" -4.4" Chicago (ORD): 13.9".....8.7" -5.2" Cincinnati (CVG): 2.0".....12.7" +10.7" Cleveland (CLE): 26.2".....29.9" +3.7" Columbus (CMH): 6.5".....26.2" +19.7" Dayton (DAY): 7.0".....19.1" +12.1" Des Moines (DSM): 14.7".....23.5" +8.8" Detroit (DTW): 15.6".....28.7" +13.1" Dubuque (DBQ): 16.7".....28.7" +12.0" Duluth (DLH): 16.9".....35.5" +18.6" Eau Claire (EAU): 15.9".....28.8" +12.9" Evansville (EVV): 0.3".....11.8" +11.5" Flint (FNT): 20.7".....23.8" +3.1" Fort Wayne (FWA): 26.6".....15.8" -10.8" Grand Rapids (GRR): 32.2".....35.3" +3.1" Green Bay (GRB): 15.6".....39.5" +23.9" Houghton Lake (HTL): 34.5".....33.9" -0.6" Indianapolis (IND): 6.9".....18.9" +12.0" International Falls (INL): 32.1".....53.3" +21.2" Kansas City (MCI): 0.7".....4.7" +4.0" La Crosse (LSE): 18.2".....30.5" +12.3" Lansing (LAN): 26.6".....13.8" -12.8" Madison (MSN): 17.5".....37.4" +19.9" Mansfield (MFD): 25.1".....24.3" -0.8" Marquette (MQT): 93.9".....92.7" -1.2" Milwaukee (MKE): 15.5".....15.1" -0.4" Minneapolis (MSP): 14.9".....25.2" +10.3" Moline (MLI): 9.0".....10.7" +1.7" Muskegon (MKG): 39.5".....52.1" +12.6" Paducah (PAH): 0.4".....6.1" +5.7" Peoria (PIA): 8.5".....4.5" -4.0" Rochester (RST): 16.7".....20.5" +3.8" Rockford (RFD): 11.5".....14.1" -2.6" St. Cloud (STC): 16.2".....23.8" +7.6" St. Louis (STL): 3.8".....7.0" +3.2" Sault Ste Marie (ANJ): 54.6".....92.2" +37.6" South Bend (SBN): 41.3".....30.6" -10.7" Springfield (SPI): 4.1".....5.5" +1.4" Toledo (TOL): 11.6".....17.2" +5.6" Wausau (AUW): 24.6".....40.7" +16.1" Youngstown (YNG): 36.6".....48.8" +12.2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most, but not all are enjoying a better year this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Tallying up the numbers for all the sites above for last season and this season, through February 4. 2011-12: 840.3" 2012-13: 1142.6" +/-: +302.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I can see the high ratios point several ways. What is the difference between a 5" snowfall at 25 degrees and 0.25" liquid equivalent and a 2.5" snowfall at 25 degrees and 0.25" liquid equivalent? It's the same amount of snow, just different crystalline structure. It's kind of like a small child who thinks that a nickel is worth more than a dime because it's bigger. 3" of fluff on 0.05" is not more snow than 1" on 0.10" in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Season snowfall totals through February 4 for 2011-12 (first number), 2012-13 (second number), and the change from this year to last year (third number). Akron/Canton (CAK): 19.3".....29.5" +10.2" Alpena (APN): 25.9".....21.5" -4.4" Chicago (ORD): 13.9".....8.7" -5.2" Cincinnati (CVG): 2.0".....12.7" +10.7" Cleveland (CLE): 26.2".....29.9" +3.7" Columbus (CMH): 6.5".....26.2" +19.7" Dayton (DAY): 7.0".....19.1" +12.1" Des Moines (DSM): 14.7".....23.5" +8.8" Detroit (DTW): 15.6".....28.7" +13.1" Dubuque (DBQ): 16.7".....28.7" +12.0" Duluth (DLH): 16.9".....35.5" +18.6" Eau Claire (EAU): 15.9".....28.8" +12.9" Evansville (EVV): 0.3".....11.8" +11.5" Flint (FNT): 20.7".....23.8" +3.1" Fort Wayne (FWA): 26.6".....15.8" -10.8" Grand Rapids (GRR): 32.2".....35.3" +3.1" Green Bay (GRB): 15.6".....39.5" +23.9" Houghton Lake (HTL): 34.5".....33.9" -0.6" Indianapolis (IND): 6.9".....18.9" +12.0" International Falls (INL): 32.1".....53.3" +21.2" Kansas City (MCI): 0.7".....4.7" +4.0" La Crosse (LSE): 18.2".....30.5" +12.3" Lansing (LAN): 26.6".....13.8" -12.8" Madison (MSN): 17.5".....37.4" +19.9" Mansfield (MFD): 25.1".....24.3" -0.8" Marquette (MQT): 93.9".....92.7" -1.2" Milwaukee (MKE): 15.5".....15.1" -0.4" Minneapolis (MSP): 14.9".....25.2" +10.3" Moline (MLI): 9.0".....10.7" +1.7" Muskegon (MKG): 39.5".....52.1" +12.6" Paducah (PAH): 0.4".....6.1" +5.7" Peoria (PIA): 8.5".....4.5" -4.0" Rochester (RST): 16.7".....20.5" +3.8" Rockford (RFD): 11.5".....14.1" -2.6" St. Cloud (STC): 16.2".....23.8" +7.6" St. Louis (STL): 3.8".....7.0" +3.2" Sault Ste Marie (ANJ): 54.6".....92.2" +37.6" South Bend (SBN): 41.3".....30.6" -10.7" Springfield (SPI): 4.1".....5.5" +1.4" Toledo (TOL): 11.6".....17.2" +5.6" Wausau (AUW): 24.6".....40.7" +16.1" Youngstown (YNG): 36.6".....48.8" +12.2" Good job, Tim. Nice compilation. I am one of the few that can say that this year is even worse than last year. FWA is in the running for biggest loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Good job, Tim. Nice compilation. I am one of the few that can say that this year is even worse than last year. FWA is in the running for biggest loser. Thanks Butch. I don't have the exact numbers, but KTIM is probably running somewhere in the 6-7" range behind last year. Not the biggest loser, but not great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 After the system on Thursday the areas suffering from lack of a 3" snowfall in far northern IL could be taken off this map. Small area of SC WI of course was taken out too. Little bit trimmed near Battle Creek where over 3" fell Thursday night-Friday morning. ORD is just a few miles from the outside edge of the shaded area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Over 59 inches on the year so far here. Average for the airport is around 68 at this point but at my location we should be around 80 I believe. Lake is 40% frozen as well, but lots of opportunities for lake effect still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Now we are down to a pretty small area of sub 3" snow system snowfalls. Basically the southern LOT cwa and the northern ILX cwa. Few small areas where there have been scattered 3" amounts including the heart of Chicago and still... ORD. If dry air wouldn't have been as big of an issue with this last storm, I may have been able to unshade everything, except maybe the area east of South Bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Now we are down to a pretty small area of sub 3" snow system snowfalls. Basically the southern LOT cwa and the northern ILX cwa. Few small areas where there have been scattered 3" amounts including the heart of Chicago and still... ORD. If dry air wouldn't have been as big of an issue with this last storm, I may have been able to unshade everything, except maybe the area east of South Bend. LowSnow2.jpg The fact that this map still exists this late in the season in this region is ****ing pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The fact that this map still exists this late in the season in this region is ****ing pathetic. Totally. Any other winter, it would have been gone by New Years. It's just been really IL and a bit of IN in this screw hole. 0z GFS would pretty much wipe this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 2012-13 season snowfall totals and departures to date.Updated through February 27, 2013.ILLINOISChicago ORD: 19.4" -9.8" Lincoln ILX: 10.1" -8.3"Moline MLI: 23.3" -3.2"Peoria PIA: 11.7" -9.4"Rockford RFD: 26.4" -4.4"Springfield SPI: 13.2" -4.7"INDIANAEvansville EVV: 12.3" +1.7"Fort Wayne FWA: 19.9" -8.3"Indianapolis IND: 19.8" -3.1" South Bend SBN: 47.7" -10.0"IOWADavenport DVN: 18.1" NADes Moines DSM: 38.7" +10.6"Dubuque DBQ: 41.2" +7.9"Mason City MCW: 22.0" -10.3" Sioux City SUX: 20.8" -5.5"Waterloo ALO: 37.1" +8.4"KENTUCKYBowling Green BWG: 1.3" -6.4"Jackson JKL: 8.6" -10.8"Lexington LEX: 8.5" -2.7"Louisville SDF: 8.1" -2.8" Paducah PAH: 6.1" -2.3" MICHIGANAlpena APN: 36.5" -29.0"Detroit DTW: 43.9" +10.3"Flint FNT: 38.1" -0.1"Grand Rapids GRR: 57.3" -7.1"Houghton Lake HTL: 50.6" -3.5"Lansing LAN: 24.1" -17.7"Marquette MQT: 131.6" -19.4"Muskegon MKG: 92.8" +10.9"Sault Ste Marie ANJ: 120.8" +21.1"MINNESOTADuluth DLH: 52.8" -12.3"International Falls INL: 70.3" +13.9"Minneapolis MSP: 35.5" -5.9"Rochester RST: 31.8" -7.8"St. Cloud STC: 37.5" +3.6"MISSOURIColumbia COU: 24.7" +8.7"Kansas City MCI: 25.2" +9.1"St. Louis STL: 13.2" -1.7"OHIOAkron/Canton CAK: 36.0" -0.1"Cincinnati CVG: 16.1" -2.3"Cleveland CLE: 40.3" -11.4"Columbus CMH: 28.6" +7.4"Dayton DAY: 20.7" +1.6"Mansfield MFD: 28.8" -8.7"Toledo TOL: 22.2" -8.0" Youngstown YNG: 59.6" +11.3"ONTARIOHamilton YHM: 33.2" NA (missing data)London YXU: 42.7" NA (thru 2/26)Ottawa YOW: 67.2" NA (missing data)Toronto YYZ: 36.3" NAWindsor YQG: 45.8" NA (missing data) WISCONSINEau Claire EAU: 42.5" +6.4"Green Bay GRB: 58.0" +18.2" La Crosse LSE: 39.9" +5.7" Madison MSN: 55.1" +14.3"Milwaukee MKE: 37.1" -0.4"Rhinelander RHI: 52.6" NAWausau AUW: 56.0" +11.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Gaylord: 113.9" -11.4" (125.3") Normal for season 144.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Gaylord: 113.9" -11.4" (125.3") Normal for season 144.3" Hey Bo, where do you find that number/total? I looked on the APX's site, and couldn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Amazing difference between Alpena and Gaylord. There 60-75 min drive away from each other. NEMI FTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hideous seasonal snowfall total for London. They should be closing in on 80" by this time in the winter. Seems like when the LES finally kicked in across the region it still found a way to play hide and seek with the forest city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hideous seasonal snowfall total for London. They should be closing in on 80" by this time in the winter. Seems like when the LES finally kicked in across the region it still found a way to play hide and seek with the forest city. Most of the NW flow central and southern lake effect locations are doing poorly, see London, CLE, MFD, SBN, GRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hey Bo, where do you find that number/total? I looked on the APX's site, and couldn't find anything. It's on their Winter Weather Page, along with a few other places here. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/apx/?n=winterbriefing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Most of the NW flow central and southern lake effect locations are doing poorly, see London, CLE, MFD, SBN, GRR. We've been screwed over in some incredible ways as far as LE has gone. I've twice seen NW flows over L. Michigan, Georgian Bay, L. Ontario, and Northern L. Huron, only to see the flow veer west or SW about the thumb of Michigan, so we get nada. Once I can deal with, twice in the span of a week or two, I'm going WTF? I would estimate we've probably had about 5" total in LE for the season, so we basically have the same total as Detroit or Toronto. Despite the crappy totals, we've had good snowcover in MBY and I probably have about 6" in the yard, so even tho' the total is less than last year, it feels more winterlike, still ****ty however........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 We've been screwed over in some incredible ways as far as LE has gone. I've twice seen NW flows over L. Michigan, Georgian Bay, L. Ontario, and Northern L. Huron, only to see the flow veer west or SW about the thumb of Michigan, so we get nada. Once I can deal with, twice in the span of a week or two, I'm going WTF? I would estimate we've probably had about 5" total in LE for the season, so we basically have the same total as Detroit or Toronto. Despite the crappy totals, we've had good snowcover in MBY and I probably have about 6" in the yard, so even tho' the total is less than last year, it feels more winterlike, still ****ty however........ Wow, that sucks man. Yeah LES has been quite unfavorable for many regions this year. I'm surprised the GTA got so many this year. Usually London sees incredible amounts each year because of LES, but only 5" this year, wow. In other winters you guys would get that in like November alone, lol. Hopefully you guys get a little surprise LES event to end the season off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wow, that sucks man. Yeah LES has been quite unfavorable for many regions this year. I'm surprised the GTA got so many this year. Usually London sees incredible amounts each year because of LES, but only 5" this year, wow. In other winters you guys would get that in like November alone, lol. Hopefully you guys get a little surprise LES event to end the season off. That would be nice but very unlikely. The best LES mths are usually Nov through Jan. These things tend to even out, so you take it for what it is....... it's probably pay-back for Dec 2010. Back to back low snowfall years make it a bit harder to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 That would be nice but very unlikely. The best LES mths are usually Nov through Jan. These things tend to even out, so you take it for what it is....... it's probably pay-back for Dec 2010. Back to back low snowfall years make it a bit harder to swallow. Yeah you guys got pounded in Dec 2010, i remember that. But oh well, its hard to swallow but its just one Winter without decent LES for your region, hopefully next year is just like 2010-11. A majority of your overall winter snowfall is LES, How much have you gotten this winter so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman1952 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Season so far 39.1" Average thru Feb. 33.9" This Feb. 21.4" Normal Feb. 8.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah you guys got pounded in Dec 2010, i remember that. But oh well, its hard to swallow but its just one Winter without decent LES for your region, hopefully next year is just like 2010-11. A majority of your overall winter snowfall is LES, How much have you gotten this winter so far? 42". I don't know where to find normal YTD snowfall on EC's crummy websites, but a guess would be about 65-70. Seasonal avg is just over 80 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Season snowfall totals through March 10 for 2011-12 (first number), 2012-13 (second number), and the change from this year to last year (third number). Akron/Canton (CAK): 30.9".....39.8" +8.9" Alpena (APN): 53.2".....38.7" -14.5" Chicago (ORD): 19.8".....29.5" +9.7" Cincinnati (CVG): 5.6".....21.3" +15.7" Cleveland (CLE): 38.5".....43.8" +5.3" Columbia (COU): 6.6".....25.0" +18.4" Columbus (CMH): 12.2".....36.9" +24.7" Dayton (DAY): 9.2".....27.0" +17.8" Des Moines (DSM): 20.9".....42.3" +21.4" Detroit (DTW): 26.0".....44.7" +18.7" Dubuque (DBQ): 32.1".....48.3" +16.2" Duluth (DLH): 48.5".....67.5" +19.0" Eau Claire (EAU): 23.6".....53.8" +30.2" Evansville (EVV): 0.5".....12.3" +11.8" Flint (FNT): 33.1".....39.0" +5.9" Fort Wayne (FWA): 32.2".....31.5" -0.7" Grand Rapids (GRR): 51.2".....57.6" +6.4" Green Bay (GRB): 31.7".....58.4" +26.7" Houghton Lake (HTL): 71.7".....51.9" -19.8" Indianapolis (IND): 9.8".....24.6" +14.8" International Falls (INL): 53.4".....76.9" +23.5" Kansas City (MCI): 3.9".....25.2" +21.3" La Crosse (LSE): 21.5".....49.6" +28.1" Lansing (LAN): 39.3".....24.5" -14.8" Louisville (SDF): 7.0".....9.1" +2.1" Madison (MSN): 31.4".....62.2" +30.8" Mansfield (MFD): 33.7".....33.9" +0.2" Marquette (MQT): 150.3".....139.0" -11.3" Milwaukee (MKE): 29.6".....41.5" +11.9" Minneapolis (MSP): 22.3".....44.8" +22.5" Moline (MLI): 16.9".....29.1" +12.2" Muskegon (MKG): 55.7".....92.9" +37.2" Paducah (PAH): 0.7".....6.7" +6.0" Peoria (PIA): 11.5".....14.9" +3.4" Rochester (RST): 20.6".....47.5" +26.9" Rockford (RFD): 24.3".....36.7" +12.4" St. Cloud (STC): 27.4".....46.9" +19.5" St. Louis (STL): 6.3".....15.0" +8.7" Sault Ste Marie (ANJ): 80.1".....124.2" +44.1" South Bend (SBN): 51.2".....55.5" +4.3" Springfield (SPI): 9.2".....14.5" +5.3" Toledo (TOL): 20.8".....22.5" +1.7" Toronto (YYZ): 15.9".....37.7" +21.8" Waterloo (ALO): 25.8".....44.5" +18.7" Wausau (AUW): 38.4".....59.2" +20.8" Youngstown (YNG): 55.3".....64.3" +9.0" 2011-12: 1409.8" 2012-13: 2012.7" Change: +602.9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Slight neg. departure at FWA doesn't surprise me considering how well they fared last winter. Huge neg. departure at Lansing is the most surprising imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Big improvement at MLI compared to last season. They got me beat by about 7". They also have DVN beat by about 6". For here definitely an improvement over last season, but still a good 10" low compared to average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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