Ginx snewx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah the pattern has more of a Ginxy high tide/sandbag appeal than feet and feet of snow lol. Talk about blocky and amplifed though. yeah keeps repeating, persistence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That's a great weenie H5 pattern on the GEFS towards the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That's a great weenie H5 pattern on the GEFS towards the end. Scott I typed a response to your Edmunds question and of course the forum crapped out in IE10. Answer was yes the forums do a good job of listing the hidden incentives, when ready let me know and I'll point you to the right information. Next week looks fun for most of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah Scooter lemme know when you go vehicle shopping. I used Edmunds and several other websites. You can even have the dealers blind bid against each for business without knowing who you are. You'll never get a better price than negotiating the price online before you ever step foot in the dealer or even talk to them. Do everything online and then when you have 2-3 dealers who are serious about earning your business and you have them as low as they will go before telling you to walk,, then and only then do you go in and sit down with them. Also never ever give them a deposit. Jerry it's up to you but walking in with cash and an ultimatum is not the way to do it. Trust me. They'll find ways to pull the wool over your eyes. We can talk when you are ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah Scooter lemme know when you go vehicle shopping. I used Edmunds and several other websites. You can even have the dealers blind bid against each for business without knowing who you are. You'll never get a better price than negotiating the price online before you ever step foot in the dealer or even talk to them. Do everything online and then when you have 2-3 dealers who are serious about earning your business and you have them as low as they will go before telling you to walk,, then and only then do you go in and sit down with them. Also never ever give them a deposit. Jerry it's up to you but walking in with cash and an ultimatum is not the way to do it. Trust me. They'll find ways to pull the wool over your eyes. We can talk when you are ready I may need you for this soon as well. When I bought a car about 10 years ago, I used guidance from another friend - ask to see the "invoice" price of the car, Not the sticker price, and say you will pay 500.00 over that price. Some dealers are reluctant to show that price, but should if asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Sorry sockswithsandels, but it is a good pattern for snow..As long as that Quebec high is there..it will be plenty cold for inteiror snow. Not in Dobbs Fairy..but in Sne it will be lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That's a great weenie H5 pattern on the GEFS towards the end. Indeed. Beware the GOA vortex of doom, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 If anyone pays invoice or higher for a new car they have been taken out to the woodshed and had their rump seriously shaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Thanks guys. We got a decent deal I think for my Accord...it was one of those we are the lowest and not going lower deals, but I felt like it was a decent deal for the prices I saw. It's always hard when getting a used car because it will never be apples to apples as every used car is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 JB is ascared of Tday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I may join PF neck and neck swinging around the ski lift, if there is another interior blue bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I may join PF neck and neck swinging around the ski lift, if there is another interior blue bomb. We have been so spoiled with early season snows of late. This time of year is torturous more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah its not an ideal pattern...but it would make it colder for us beyond that range. There's a rapidly building scandanavian block toward the pole which is trying to push the Baffin Island vortex southeast. Its the OP Euro though...the ensembles are more what I would look at beyond D7. They have a more modified versuon of that pattern. Mostly for New England its a seasonable pattern tempwise with a pesky high influencing us from the north and eventually onshore flow with that storm system offshore. Some encouraging signs on the tail end of the GFS ensemble mean as well...it looks like the long range guidance is starting to hint pretty strongly at some changes to the large scale pattern by Thanksgiving. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSHGTAVGNH_12z/f372.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 We have been so spoiled with early season snows of late. This time of year is torturous more often than not. Definitely. I miss the days when February rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Some encouraging signs on the tail end of the GFS ensemble mean as well...it looks like the long range guidance is starting to hint pretty strongly at some changes to the large scale pattern by Thanksgiving. http://www.meteo.psu...NH_12z/f372.gif That dip off of Alaska is a wee bit concerning. I imagine a number of the GFS ensemble members have a pretty big GOA vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Definitely. I miss the days when February rocked. How is it that we've given up late Feb and March for late Novie and Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 If you blend the euro and gefs, it's a pretty good pattern. Even if the euro ensembles are more right than wrong..I'd take it. I think the biggest issue is not which suite is right or wrong, but the timing of these changes. Will they be pushed back or look to be on target? I honestly don't see signs of a push back on either suite...if anything the euro ensembles improved over the last two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 How is it that we've given up late Feb and March for late Novie and Dec. I don't know...but how many times was I pumped up for February vacation when I was younger. I guess if you looked back in the 50s and 60s, we did have some good Decembers. So just the ebb and flow of cycles...but give me February anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Awesome pattern coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 If you blend the euro and gefs, it's a pretty good pattern. Even if the euro ensembles are more right than wrong..I'd take it. I think the biggest issue is not which suite is right or wrong, but the timing of these changes. Will they be pushed back or look to be on target? I honestly don't see signs of a push back on either suite...if anything the euro ensembles improved over the last two days. Are the euro ensembles showing more cold and snow potentials toward the end of the run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 And lets be clear, it's not meaning a +PNA and -NAO. We still have low heights in the GOA, but also a weenie push of colder air trying to push into the northern tier. So the term better pattern probably applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Are the euro ensembles showing more cold and snow potentials toward the end of the run? They just cool off a bit. They have work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 December snows last much longer,Mid February sun angle starts ruining depth quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That dip off of Alaska is a wee bit concerning. I imagine a number of the GFS ensemble members have a pretty big GOA vortex. As much as the goa low can be a death wish to winter patterns around here at times -- its not too terrible to have it where the GEFS are signaling it might be (if it has to be there at all, lol). That still allows room for some amplification of the ridge on the west coast into British/Columbia and Western Canada. Also good to see the signal for more blocking over Greenland and extending to the Davis Straight. We made it through a decent majority of 10-11 with a GOA low in a similar position-- having it there definitely magnifies the need for blocking though if you want to get a wintry pattern a month from now in a similar setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Multiple chances and coastals, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Multiple chances and coastals, great. XXX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 As much as the goa low can be a death wish to winter patterns around here at times -- its not too terrible to have it where the GEFS are signaling it might be (if it has to be there at all, lol). That still allows room for some amplification of the ridge on the west coast into British/Columbia and Western Canada. Also good to see the signal for more blocking over Greenland and extending to the Davis Straight. We made it through a decent majority of 10-11 with a GOA low in a similar position-- having it there definitely magnifies the need for blocking though if you want to get a wintry pattern a month from now in a similar setup. Oh no doubt. A GOA low like that would be fine. PNA neutral is fine as long as we have some nice downstream blocking. Early in the season it may be tough to get much snow with an unfavorable Pacific... but the blocking is great to see. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 If the GOA is oriented properly, it can pop a weak ridge in western Canada like the GEFS have...but you obviously rather just see a ridge. Food for thought in case that is the hand that's dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 If the GOA is oriented properly, it can pop a weak ridge in western Canada like the GEFS have...but you obviously rather just see a ridge. Food for thought in case that is the hand that's dealt. Yeah with a 15 day forecast ensemble mean I'm guessing some have a big trough others have a weak ridging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Well, here's what we were staring in the face last year at this time. It can't possibly get worse than this, so we can hold on to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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