Mr Torchey Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 My post was tongue-in-cheek in response to litchfieldlibations judgmental and aloof post. lol, Kevin said that somebody had gone to his (house) to measure, bit of a different story then being in the same town on your way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Going out on a limb to say, I doubt that anyone here who really appreciates winter weather doesn't/ wouldn't take a drive (if it were within their means to do so) to see some awesome snow if they had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It's amazing that Smugglers Notch has such great terrain but get's shafted in the snowfall department compared to Bolton and Stowe. They don't get shafted! They average about the same as Stowe and the two resorts are very similar at the end of the year. We had like 3 years in a row recently where the two resorts were within like a foot of each other at the end of the season, and that's not much margin of error if its like 337" and 325". Smuggs and Bolton get the same type of events (low inversion west slope snows) whereas Mansfield gets much more on east flow events...we all get about the same snowfall during upslope events when the inversion is higher than the ridgeline, because moisture gets more evenly spread from east slope and west slope. If anything Smuggs may average a few inches more in the long haul... snowfall here increases as you head north along the Spine. It increases about 30% from each region... Killington is like 200-230", Sugarbush/MRG is like 260", Bolton/Stowe/Smuggs 300-330", and Jay Peak 350". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 They don't get shafted! They average about the same as Stowe and the two resorts are very similar at the end of the year. We had like 3 years in a row recently where the two resorts were within like a foot of each other at the end of the season, and that's not much margin of error if its like 337" and 325". Smuggs and Bolton get the same type of events (low inversion west slope snows) whereas Mansfield gets much more on east flow events...we all get about the same snowfall during upslope events when the inversion is higher than the ridgeline, because moisture gets more evenly spread from east slope and west slope. That's interesting because I skied at Smugglers Notch in January of 2010 and they had alot less snow in the woods/glades than Stowe did. We finished off at Burke which really had less snow. Bolton gets those huge dumps but the terrain is kind of meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 lol, Kevin said that somebody had gone to his (house) to measure, bit of a different story then being in the same town on your way home. That's not my style and I would not seek out some members house without permission. I know where the highest point is in Tolland and drove though there on the way back home from running an errand to look for deeper snow as I love snow and was curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Going out on a limb to say, I doubt that anyone here who really appreciates winter weather doesn't/ wouldn't take a drive (if it were within their means to do so) to see some awesome snow if they had the chance. That's a pretty strong limb to go out on... I've probably spent 100s of dollars in gas over the year driving to mountains, nearby towns, higher elevations, etc during storms. I like to see how events play out around the local area wherever I'm living. When I grew up in Albany (200ft) and was in high school, I'd always drive up to Thatcher State Park at 1,200ft in Knox, NY to see the snow. It was about 15 minutes away and the same town that Rick/Logan11 lives in, but I doubt he thought I was stalking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 well we finally got into banded precip this afternoon with pretty good rain and sleet for a few hours..probably wouldve been three or four inches of snow had it happened up til around 5am this morning... 24 hrs late lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 In the last few years I really can't complain. Living on the immediate shoreline my entire life I am used to being all rain while watching inland and Litchfield get pounded. This past storm and rocktober I wasn't expected to get much of anything with no advisories, rocktober I got the winter storm warning late in the day and received 4 or 5 inches, this past storm made it to just advisory level and received 10 inches. Been a great few years, havent had a snow storm bust in many years it feels like. Nothing like in the 90s when I was a young kid, watch the 11pm news forecast that said snow and wake up to heavy rain, 45 degrees and school not being cancelled. what about 95-96 and 92-93 and 93-94? werent those good region wide? even at the coast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 That's a pretty strong limb to go out on... I've probably spent 100s of dollars in gas over the year driving to mountains, nearby towns, higher elevations, etc during storms. I like to see how events play out around the local area wherever I'm living. When I grew up in Albany (200ft) and was in high school, I'd always drive up to Thatcher State Park at 1,200ft in Knox, NY to see the snow. It was about 15 minutes away and the same town that Rick/Logan11 lives in, but I doubt he thought I was stalking him. I wish that I could get back just a small portion of the money that I have spent in the last 30 years of skiing and chasing snow including skiing lift serviced terrain in North America 12 months out of the year, glacier skiing, heli skiing and summer snowmobiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 That's interesting because I skied at Smugglers Notch in January of 2010 and they had alot less snow in the woods/glades than Stowe did. We finished off at Burke which really had less snow. Bolton gets those huge dumps but the terrain is kind of meh. Ahhh, yeah Mansfield has significantly better snow preservation on the east side...the snowpack is usually deeper on Mansfield's trails (east/north facing). Stowe's terrain at Spruce Peak faces southeast and snow preservation is horrific there (not called Sunny Spruce for nothing) but Mansfield's terrain (the expert stuff and tree skiing) has a near perfect aspect. That's why I can ski the trees up there in May a lot of years. Plus the west side is prone to warm air from the Champlain Valley. Same idea why the east slope of the Berks holds snow better than the west side. Also with the west slope snowfall being a lot more of the fluffy upslope variety (so is Mansfield's, but sometimes we don't do nearly as well as Bolton/Smuggs like 4" vs 10"), but during the wetter east/southeast flows off the Atlantic, east side of the Spine will do much better. Also consider spots like Bolton and Smuggs which do face west and northwest, so there is decent preservation, but they get the afternoon sun from facing west...that makes a huge difference in the springtime. March at 50F is one thing, but March at 50F in full sunlight is another. Mansfield can be depressing in how quickly it goes into the shadows but it does preserve snow very well. Every mountain has their pluses and minuses. Ask the locals at each hill and we'll all tell you ours is the best Last year's Thanksgiving storm was a perfect example of a wet, SE flow downsloping the west slope. 8"-9" in Stowe Village on the east slope, while Underhill had 1" on the west slope of Mansfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 what about 95-96 and 92-93 and 93-94? werent those good region wide? even at the coast? '92-'93 was a bad winter on the south coast. They got shafted all winter. The other two were good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Holy fook at the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Holy fook at the radar Is that snow up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Is that snow up there? 37F and a few catpaws for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 When I grew up in Albany (200ft) and was in high school, I'd always drive up to Thatcher State Park at 1,200ft in Knox, NY to see the snow. It was about 15 minutes away and the same town that Rick/Logan11 lives in, but I doubt he thought I was stalking him. Born in Troy, and grew up just south of Albany about 25 miles. Family was all around the Albany area at the time. Used to play Voorhesville at Football back in the day. I know it's not Albany, but we still have a family house in the Adirondacks. Snow averages 200-300 inches per year there. Place isn't winterized but my cousin's is. Crazy place to be when the lake effect machine is doing its thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm not sure why they just don't call it Athena. They said they would go with TWC names. I think we need to evolve uniform standards for storms qualifying for "naming". For better or worse a tropical storm starts at 39 mph sustained winds and a hurricane at 74 mph. Do we name winter storms based on Kocin standards? Or some other standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Wind still roaring pretty good here. High of 36.8 today..Not a torch. Probably last day of 100% snowcover till T-giving storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Who in God's name drove to your house? That is beyond scary man. Wasn't me, I would have shoveled all the snow in a giant freezer truck and taken it with me back to the DC Metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 '92-'93 was a bad winter on the south coast. They got shafted all winter. The other two were good though. Then there was the magical 95/96 100 incher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Can't wait to see the good Reverends pics.........he knows snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Cold front Is that redevelopment further north? seems I remember the Nam showing that on one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 A period of sleet today and UMass gusted to 35mph, just short of the 38mph peak gust in Sandy. Still windy on the hill with a weak inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I think we need to evolve uniform standards for storms qualifying for "naming". For better or worse a tropical storm starts at 39 mph sustained winds and a hurricane at 74 mph. Do we name winter storms based on Kocin standards? Or some other standards? KFS standards... but he gets to name them Almostbaldiegeddon Chipmunkdrowner PukedownExplorergeddon Snowbankpiler Weeniegeddon etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 '92-'93 was a bad winter on the south coast. They got shafted all winter. The other two were good though. What noteworthy events did '92-'93 feature outside of Dec. '92 and the Superstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Wow just saw the final PNS. Coventry the winner at 9.2 inches. Must have been under that nice band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Wow just saw the final PNS. Coventry the winner at 9.2 inches. Must have been under that nice band. that's a pretty sick gradient. 5 inches over a couple of miles...that's like when PF is smoking overcast and Mansfield is ripping lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Born in Troy, and grew up just south of Albany about 25 miles. Family was all around the Albany area at the time. Used to play Voorhesville at Football back in the day. Nice. I great up in Delmar, just SW of Albany...Bethlehem School district next to Voorhesville. Went to Voorhesville High for driver's education lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The slow melt continues as winds and clouds keep temps well above freezing, not sure what will be left in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The slow melt continues as winds and clouds keep temps well above freezing, not sure what will be left in the morning. yep..still at 39 here...i was expecting a flash freeze at sunset...not sure upton's 30 will work out tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Is that snow up there? Cold front Is that redevelopment further north? seems I remember the Nam showing that on one run. Big ol catpaws, Was out for a time after i posted that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.