Brian5671 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 does anyone have the UPTON PNS statement-i can't find it for some reason-thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 does anyone have the UPTON PNS statement-i can't find it for some reason-thx http://www.erh.noaa.gov/displayprod.php?product=NYCPNSOKX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 what was the final total for Central Park?... 4.7 for the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 4.5" at home in Pompton Plains ~2.0" at work in Ramsey - most of which is already gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euripides Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Athena kicked some butt..wow..didn't expect any snow being this early..ended up with 3 inches..the most for a November storm since 1989 Gahhhh.....they named it. Only the Weather Channel is doing this? I would hate to hear Craig Allen or Nick Gregory saying names of the winter storms........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Snowfall has been really leaving its mark since 2010 with with NYC scoring numerous high monthly snowfall rankings. The only months that we have been slacking are March through May. CENTRAL PARK - 1869 to Present (through March 09) SNOWIEST MONTHS October 2.9 2011 0.8 1925 0.5 1952 0.5 1876 November 19.0 1898 14.0 1882 12.8 1938 6.3 1892 5.0 1896 4.7 1989&2012 3.7 1945 3.5 1872 3.2 1967 & 1936 2.9 1995 December 29.6 1947 27.0 1872 25.3 1948 22.5 1883 21.6 1904 20.1 2010 19.8 2003 18.6 1960 15.8 1959 15.6 1945 14.9 1933 January 36.0 2011 27.4 1925 26.1 1996 24.5 1923 23.6 1935 20.5 1877 20.3 1978 18.4 1905 17.5 1882 17.3 2004 & 1879 16.7 1961 16.0 1893 February 36.9 2010 27.9 1934 26.9 2006 26.4 1994 26.3 1926 26.1 2003 25.3 1920 & 1899 23.6 1967 23.0 1978 21.8 1907 21.5 1983 March 30.5 1896 25.5 1916 22.3 1888 21.5 1914 21.1 1956 19.2 1941 18.5 1960 17.4 1967 17.0 1890 15.9 1958 April 13.5 1875 10.2 1915 9.6 1982 8.5 1924 6.5 1944 & 1917 6.4 1938 5.8 1907 5.0 1887 4.2 1956 4.0 2003 May Trace 1977 & 1946 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I was thinking to myself the other day that the only records/top ten snowfall months we haven't touched since 2010 were NOvember and March. Snowiest JAnuary, February, and October on record within two years are amazing. We didn't get the snowiest December or November(yet ?) but the fact that if you were to look at the top ten snowiest months and still see 2010/2011 is mind-blowing. People 100 years from now are gonna look back at this stretch of weather that we have been experiencing and just be amazed. March and April are the only ones left now, May would just be Unbelievable. Finished here with between 5 and 6 inches, it's melting rapidly so enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Snowfall has been really leaving its mark since 2010 with with NYC scoring numerous high monthly snowfall rankings. The only months that we have been slacking are March through May. CENTRAL PARK - 1869 to Present (through March 09) SNOWIEST MONTHS October 2.9 2011 0.8 1925 0.5 1952 0.5 1876 November 19.0 1898 14.0 1882 12.8 1938 6.3 1892 5.0 1896 4.7 1989&2012 3.7 1945 3.5 1872 3.2 1967 & 1936 2.9 1995 December 29.6 1947 27.0 1872 25.3 1948 22.5 1883 21.6 1904 20.1 2010 19.8 2003 18.6 1960 15.8 1959 15.6 1945 14.9 1933 January 36.0 2011 27.4 1925 26.1 1996 24.5 1923 23.6 1935 20.5 1877 20.3 1978 18.4 1905 17.5 1882 17.3 2004 & 1879 16.7 1961 16.0 1893 February 36.9 2010 27.9 1934 26.9 2006 26.4 1994 26.3 1926 26.1 2003 25.3 1920 & 1899 23.6 1967 23.0 1978 21.8 1907 21.5 1983 March 30.5 1896 25.5 1916 22.3 1888 21.5 1914 21.1 1956 19.2 1941 18.5 1960 17.4 1967 17.0 1890 15.9 1958 April 13.5 1875 10.2 1915 9.6 1982 8.5 1924 6.5 1944 & 1917 6.4 1938 5.8 1907 5.0 1887 4.2 1956 4.0 2003 May Trace 1977 & 1946 the 1950's did well in March...not so for 2010-2012...This year?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.erh.noaa....oduct=NYCPNSOKX The 7.5" in Ridgefield (walking distance from me) in Bergen County is ludicrous. Must have been a drift. 4 or 5 inches is a more likely estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Are they going to do anything about the LGA NUMBERS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 the 1950's did well in March...not so for 2010-2012...This year?... We just need to get it cold enough in March and then we could make a run at making the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 8.5 inches here in Central nassau. Great storm, other than for those who lost power. Trees in my area decimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Are they going to do anything about the LGA NUMBERS? Doesn't look like it. They came out with a 12:00pm PNS and the ludicrous 1.1" is still there. 10 years from now, the records will show 1.1" for LGA when the reality was 4"-8" areawide in Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Doesn't look like it. They came out with a 12:00pm PNS and the ludicrous 1.1" is still there. 10 years from now, the records will show 1.1" for LGA when the reality was 4"-8" areawide in Queens. LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours. Light snow under this band!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 LGA -- the new hell on earth. Never drops below freezing, never snows, and the growing season never ends. Given their climate I'm surprised palm trees aren't natives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Doesn't look like it. They came out with a 12:00pm PNS and the ludicrous 1.1" is still there. 10 years from now, the records will show 1.1" for LGA when the reality was 4"-8" areawide in Queens. Well, you could always sign up for CoCoRaHS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Impressive gradient too in Monmouth. Friend in Middletown posted this pic near his house - nada. Those 1-2 degrees made a big difference. Temps were around 32 inland but 34 near the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 In the background I can hear branches & snow falling to the ground. I'm glad nothing fell on me. The snow is melting fairly quickly. LGA -- the new hell on earth. Never drops below freezing, never snows, and the growing season never ends. Given their climate I'm surprised palm trees aren't natives. I wish. In all seriousness, I actually wouldn't mind if they replaced some of the trees that fell in this storm & Sandy with windmill palms. I bet they wouldn't snap as easily. But that's another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Rapid snowmelt is ongoing right now, wow. Could all be gone by 5pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Impressive gradient too in Monmouth. Friend in Middletown posted this pic near his house - nada. Those 1-2 degrees made a big difference. Temps were around 32 inland but 34 near the coast. Which is why the LGA number is plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Which is why the LGA number is plausible. I can see the Throgs Neck bridge from my house, I'm not exactly inland. And yet I had close to 7 inches. So LGA got only 1 inch while everyone around them in every direction got 6+ inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I can see the Throgs Neck bridge from my house, I'm not exactly inland. And yet I had close to 7 inches. So LGA got only 1 inch while everyone around them in every direction got 6+ inches? Is your house exposed (as in no trees or buildings) to a wind directly off the sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Eyeball estimate around five inches of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 - Also debunked with this storm-ocean water temps can be quite warm and get all snow-started and ended as snow here despite LIS water temps in the high 50's. The track of the storm and having a cold high in place are always the 2 most important factors...there was no snow out here with the October storm but several inches this time...why? 1/ The Sound was marginally cooler...low 60's last October but closer to mid-50's this time...that helped out here, believe me. 2/ The anticyclone was exceptionally cold for early November (recall 16 F at FOK) and a somewhat better and colder one than the one in place for the October event last year. Those two factors were enough to change it from 36 F to 37 F and all rain to 32 F to 34 F and a decent snowfall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Which is why the LGA number is plausible. Although the gradient around LGA seems to be much steeper based upon reports, i.e. 1" to 7" over a mile or so. Here, it goes from nothing on the beach, to 2" a few miles inland, 5" several miles inland, then 10"+ once 8-9+ miles inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours. Light snow under this band!!! Why are you having a meltdown (no pun intended) over this? The snow will likely be all or mostly gone by today or tomorrow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Although the gradient around LGA seems to be much steeper based upon reports, i.e. 1" to 7" over a mile or so. Here, it goes from nothing on the beach, to 2" a few miles inland, 5" several miles inland, then 10"+ once 8-9+ miles inland. I heard (on the news, no actual confirmation) that right at the beach in Port Jeff there was no accumulation...but there is a rapid increase in elevation as one goes south of the water to over 200 feet asl in spots (and most of the area is over 160 feet)...which is where the 5 inch report for Port Jeff came from on the PNS (not mine as I went to work before the storm ended..it was snowing hard as I pulled out of my driveway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It depends on where they measure. If they measure right next to the water I can imagine most of the snow melting on contact, even if it was sticking less than a quarter mile away. The reports I am seeing are of some big differences over short distances near the water. Some one posted about this along the Hudson in Westchester. LGA never reported anything but light snow during the storm!!!! LGA was under the best banding the entire time. Snow was blinding and easily heavy for at least 3 hours. Light snow under this band!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It depends on where they measure. If they measure right next to the water I can imagine most of the snow melting on contact, even if it was sticking less than a quarter mile away. The reports I am seeing are of some big differences over short distances near the water. Some one posted about this along the Hudson in Westchester. This would have been a great storm to take a measurement at Jaynes Hill...as I drove over Bald Hill this morning you could see there was more snow up there than down below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Ah...now I see William's and Ray's posts. Great minds think alike. My best efforts measurement of our snowfall was 3.5". I took a core sample of it using an inverted cocorahs gage this morning (easy to do acurately with such wet sticky snow) and the sample melted down from 2.8" to 0.83" liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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