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GL/MW/OV December 2010 disco thread PART II

snowstormcanuck

By snowstormcanuck,
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Hoosier

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3.8" measured at IND today, which puts them at 14.7" for this December, good for 6th place all time.

1) 27.5"...1973

2) 21.5"...1895

3) 16.3"...2000

4) 15.6"...1981

5) 15.2"...1977

6) 14.7"...2010

7) 14.6"...1996

8) 14.1"...2005

9) 13.1"...2004

10) 13.1"...1915

excellent shot to get into the #3 slot at least

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Chicago WX

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excellent shot to get into the #3 slot at least

Agreed.

My crude reanalysis of LAF/WL's snow history puts us at #9 right now.

1) 25.5"...1929

2) 24.0"...1983

3) 21.6"...1973

4) 20.8"...1914

5) 20.5"...1977

6) 20.3"...1909

7) 17.5"...2000

8) 17.3"...1934

9) 16.8"...2010

10) 15.5"...2007

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KeenerWx

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Agreed.

My crude reanalysis of LAF/WL's snow history puts us at #9 right now.

1) 25.5"...1929

2) 24.0"...1983

3) 21.6"...1973

4) 20.8"...1914

5) 20.5"...1977

6) 20.3"...1909

7) 17.5"...2000

8) 17.3"...1934

9) 16.8"...2010

10) 15.5"...2007

What is the lala land's monthly snow averages? I'm guessing seasonal is around 25", but I can't be too sure.

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IWXwx

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3.8" measured at IND today, which puts them at 14.7" for this December, good for 6th place all time.

1) 27.5"...1973

2) 21.5"...1895

3) 16.3"...2000

4) 15.6"...1981

5) 15.2"...1977

6) 14.7"...2010

7) 14.6"...1996

8) 14.1"...2005

9) 13.1"...2004

10) 13.1"...1915

It's interesting that 5 of the 10 on this list has occurred in the last 14 years and 8 of the 10 occurred in the last 37 years. I'm sure that other cities in our part of the country have also experienced this increase. I know that this has been discussed repeatedly, but I've gotta say that if this increase in snowfall totals is a result of climate change, I love it!

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snowstormcanuck

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Measuring issue at the airport? Or is that accurate?

Airport is a notorious lowballer, but even taking that into account, I'd say they're only at 4-5" for the season. The real culprit is that we've had virtually no synoptic snow this month. LES does not have the reputation of "sharing the wealth" so you get these sharp clines over short distances.

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Couple snippets from Davenports AFD this morning. Good old fashioned arctic outbreak looks on tap.

LATER NEXT WEEK...ZONAL FLOW RETURNS WITH MODERATING TEMPERATURES.

EXTREMELY COLD ARCTIC AIR GATHERING ACROSS CANADA WILL START TO MAKE

THE MOVE SOUTHWARD BY LATER IN THE WEEK. GFS INDICATING 850 MB TEMP

OF -27C ENTERING MONTANA ON DECEMBER 30. THIS ARCTIC AIRMASS WILL

THEN BE PLUNGING ACROSS MUCH OF THE NATION EARLY IN JANUARY AND WILL

NOT BE IN A HURRY TO LEAVE.

.LONG TERM...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

OVERVIEW...IN THE PAST 2 DAYS WE HAVE GONE FROM A SIGNIFICANT

SNOWSTORM FOR CHRISTMAS EVE TO PRACTICALLY A NON-EVENT. OTHERWISE

MAJOR PATTERN CHANGE TAKES PLACE ABOUT NEW YEARS DAY WITH A HUGE

NORTHERN CANADA VORTEX EXPANDING SOUTHWARD. POTENTIAL FOR A

SIGNIFICANT TO MAJOR WINTER STORM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY WHICH

WILL BE THE DRIVING FORCE IN PLUNGING EXTREMELY COLD ARCTIC AIR

SOUTHWARD INTO MUCH OF THE COUNTRY FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF

JANUARY. MIN TEMPS EXPECTED TO DROP TO 20 TO 25 BELOW IF NOT COLDER

IN PORTIONS OF THE DVN CWA SOMETIME DURING THIS TIME FRAME. STAY

TUNED.

Brrr. Our snow is probably not going anywhere for a while...

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Chicago WX

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ORD up to 10.1" of snow for the month after yesterday's event. This makes the 4th straight December with at least 10" of snow, something that's only happened two times before in Chicago's recorded snowfall history...1958-1961 and 1972-1978. To note, both of those streaks happened at MDW, the official site at both times.

1958: 13.2"

1959: 10.4"

1960: 14.0"

1961: 16.6"

1972: 10.3"

1973: 26.0"

1974: 16.3"

1975: 11.7"

1976: 14.4"

1977: 19.2"

1978: 31.4"

2007: 17.6"

2008: 21.9"

2009: 22.5"

2010: 10.1" (through 12/20)

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December 2010 not only the snowiest December on record, but the snowiest month on record at Rochester MN.

1) 37.8"...2010 (through 12/20)

2) 35.3"...2000

3) 30.6"...1969

4) 28.6"...2008

5) 26.3"...2009

6) 21.4"...1950

7) 20.8"...1990

8) 20.7"...1968

9) 19.6"...1996

10) 18.8"...1977

1) 37.8"...Dec 2010 (through 12/20)

2) 35.3"...Dec 2000

3) 35.1"...Mar 1951

4) 30.6"...Dec 1969

5) 30.2"...Jan 1996

6) 29.4"...Jan 1999

7) 28.6"...Dec 2008

8) 27.3"...Jan 1982

9) 27.0"...Jan 1932

10) 26.3"...Dec 2009

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La Crosse WI sits at #3 on the all time snowiest December list, and 11th on the all time snowiest month list.

1) 32.7"...2008

2) 30.4"...1990

3) 28.4"...2010 (through 12/20)

4) 26.6"...1968

5) 25.5"...2000

5) 25.5"...1927

7) 24.9"...2009

8) 24.2"...2007

9) 21.9"...1911

10) 19.8"...1969

1) 39.6"...Jan 1929

2) 35.0"...Jan 1996

3) 33.5"...Mar 1959

4) 32.7"...Dec 2008

5) 32.2"...Jan 1886

6) 31.9"...Jan 1999

7) 31.0"...Feb 1959

8) 30.4"...Dec 1990

9) 30.3"...Nov 1991

10) 29.7"...Jan 1979

11) 28.4"...Dec 2010 (through 12/20)

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michsnowfreak

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Wow on some of those snow stats. I thought this winter would be one of above normal snowfall with near-normal snowcover here. So far, we are on pace for the complete opposite, normal to slightly below normal snowfall and above normal snowcover. Its still SOOO early (btw, happy first day of winter everyone). So certainly things can change of course, but this is no ordinary Nina so far.

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Chicago WX

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Peoria IL now inside the top 10 on the snowiest December list, tie for 9th currently.

1) 21.7"...1977

2) 21.0"...2000

3) 18.9"...1973

4) 18.0"...1909

5) 15.9"...1983

6) 14.6"...2009

7) 14.4"...1914

8) 14.2"...1978

9) 11.7"...1997

9) 11.7"...2010 (through 12/20)

10) 11.3"...2005

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Stevo6899

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So I got out of all that

Indy - 14 in Dec, none in Nov

Chicago- 10 in Dec, none in Nov

detroit - 8 in Dec, none in Nov

minneapolis - 28 in Dec plus 12 in Nov = 40 inches

rochester mn - 37 in Dec, none in november

la crosse - 28 in Dec, none in Nov

peoria - 11 in Dec, none in Nov

dubuque - 21 in Dec, none in Nov

duluth - 38 for both months plus 8-12 for the 12-20 event

So all we need is 2 snowstorms like the GFS was showing this morning in cities like detroit, indy to get even! Come on Se ridge, and go away blocking!

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Couple snippets from Davenports AFD this morning. Good old fashioned arctic outbreak looks on tap.

LATER NEXT WEEK...ZONAL FLOW RETURNS WITH MODERATING TEMPERATURES.

EXTREMELY COLD ARCTIC AIR GATHERING ACROSS CANADA WILL START TO MAKE

THE MOVE SOUTHWARD BY LATER IN THE WEEK. GFS INDICATING 850 MB TEMP

OF -27C ENTERING MONTANA ON DECEMBER 30. THIS ARCTIC AIRMASS WILL

THEN BE PLUNGING ACROSS MUCH OF THE NATION EARLY IN JANUARY AND WILL

NOT BE IN A HURRY TO LEAVE.

.LONG TERM...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

OVERVIEW...IN THE PAST 2 DAYS WE HAVE GONE FROM A SIGNIFICANT

SNOWSTORM FOR CHRISTMAS EVE TO PRACTICALLY A NON-EVENT. OTHERWISE

MAJOR PATTERN CHANGE TAKES PLACE ABOUT NEW YEARS DAY WITH A HUGE

NORTHERN CANADA VORTEX EXPANDING SOUTHWARD. POTENTIAL FOR A

SIGNIFICANT TO MAJOR WINTER STORM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY WHICH

WILL BE THE DRIVING FORCE IN PLUNGING EXTREMELY COLD ARCTIC AIR

SOUTHWARD INTO MUCH OF THE COUNTRY FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF

JANUARY. MIN TEMPS EXPECTED TO DROP TO 20 TO 25 BELOW IF NOT COLDER

IN PORTIONS OF THE DVN CWA SOMETIME DURING THIS TIME FRAME. STAY

TUNED.

Brrr. Our snow is probably not going anywhere for a while...

Nice...and I really hope this verifies. Unfortunately, the 12z GFS lost the Day 10-12 arctic outbreak...just in time to put a buzzkill on DVN's discussion. We'll see what happens over the next few runs.

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Hoosier

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It's interesting that 5 of the 10 on this list has occurred in the last 14 years and 8 of the 10 occurred in the last 37 years. I'm sure that other cities in our part of the country have also experienced this increase. I know that this has been discussed repeatedly, but I've gotta say that if this increase in snowfall totals is a result of climate change, I love it!

I think better/more frequent measuring is playing a role. How much is hard to say.

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A-L-E-K

A-L-E-K

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Nice...and I really hope this verifies. Unfortunately, the 12z GFS lost the Day 10-12 arctic outbreak...just in time to put a buzzkill on DVN's discussion. We'll see what happens over the next few runs.

If the Euro is right and it probably is, our blocking won't be going anywhere and i think we'll stay suppression city for at least a couple more weeks.

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