dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 12z Nam gets the secondary going late, Looks weaker as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Had about 3.5 with 2.0" new overnight when I left this morning. It was a bit of a hairy ride in as the roads were pretty snowy and folks were doing some wierd things. I was stuck behind someone who was 90% in the left lane of the two lane road and doing about 15 to 20 mph in the 50 mph zone. (The left lane was no clearer than the right in that area.) Yep, the roads were a little hairy in places this morning. A couple roads I came across hadn't been plowed and were all tracked up by cars/trucks. No worries though--just chug along in four-wheel. I did see one car off the road and pretty far down in a ditch. Tow truck was there, situation under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just some very light snow now... like the snow equivilent of mist/drizzle... very fine flakes. For a general sense, Mansfield has 4-5 inches of new snow. We have 4-4.25" here in the base area and I had 4.75" up at 3,000ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 4" total now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 6" even. 23F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 N conway reporting 8 new. i'll be there by 10 pm tonite. hope we can get some frz tommorrow. if roads are non icy will head up to mt. washington hotel and take peek at bretton woods/wildcat for wed or thurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 6" even. 23F. Are you home or at GYX office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Are you home or at GYX office? I am home. About 5 mi NW of the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 storm two certainly presents some forecasting challenges. i guess if the secondary can deepen more the snow could over perform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I am home. About 5 mi NW of the office. I had 3.5" when i called in at 6:50 am, I am guessing we probably have another 1-1.5" since then which i will measure on the snow board when i get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 storm two certainly presents some forecasting challenges. i guess if the secondary can deepen more the snow could over perform? It would help this area, But the foothills,mtns and northern maine look to cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Well that first event was an over-performer in my mind out this way... wasn't expecting a solid 4-5" over the mountains and a bunch of 3.5-4.5" reports in the mountain valleys. Its dense stuff so the QPF must've been under-done by the models as I bet there's widespread 0.25-0.5" across northern VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Well that first event was an over-performer in my mind out this way... wasn't expecting a solid 4-5" over the mountains and a bunch of 3.5-4.5" reports in the mountain valleys. Its dense stuff so the QPF must've been under-done by the models as I bet there's widespread 0.25-0.5" across northern VT. NAM did a great job. As for tonight into tomorrow....looks like a lot of liquid. Already 29 here and temps probably won't drop off their highs today into tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEK_VT_Upslope_Event Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 NAM did a great job. As for tonight into tomorrow....looks like a lot of liquid. Already 29 here and temps probably won't drop off their highs today into tonight. Yes, looks like the primary never really gets going to pull down the colder air while the QPF is falling. I guess we'll have to hope for wrap around and/or upslope, and that the Friday storm goes about 1500 miles further east than currently depicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Yes, looks like the primary never really gets going to pull down the colder air while the QPF is falling. I guess we'll have to hope for wrap around and/or upslope, and that the Friday storm goes about 1500 miles further east than currently depicted I think you meant secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEK_VT_Upslope_Event Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think you meant secondary Yes, thanks for the correction... Looks pretty out right now, but starting to pull my hair out at what looks like may be a brown Christmas. Unless things revert significantly on the models for late week storm. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 With our luck, after our snow has been washed away the mid-Atlantic will cash in on a clipper for a white Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Measured anywhere from 3.3 to 3.8 here in Plymouth. I'll go with 3.6". It honestly looked like 4-5" looking out the window so I was a little surprised the measurements were so low. Nice little snowfall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 24.5F -SN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Event totals: 5.3” Snow/0.45” L.E. I’m not sure how much additional precipitation to expect from this storm before we move on to the next one, so the above numbers may represent the totals for this event. In any case, this was a decent storm (largest of the season here thus far in terms of snowfall) that actually pushed season accumulations ahead of 2006-2007 on this date. So, 2012-2013 isn’t currently bringing up the rear in my snowfall data and it has also moved back to within 1 S.D. (-0.96) of average snowfall. Details from the 12:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.5 inches New Liquid: 0.04 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 12.5 Snow Density: 8.0% H2O Temperature: 33.6 F Sky: Light Mist Snow at the stake: 4.0 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nice J.Spin...so 5.3" total with a 4" depth. I admire your ability to clear every 6 hours (this event gave you 4 samples right?)...I've got around 4" on the ground and a storm total of 4". (no clearing). Makes me wonder if in fact that 4" is close to your 5.3" as we both ended with the same amount on the ground. I was looking at CoCoRAHS this morning and you could tell who clears and who doesn't by the difference in snowfall vs depth. The Stowe Village guy had 3.5" of snow at 7am but also a depth of 3.5" so I'm assuming he just measures what's on the ground. There was two spots with 4.8" and 5.0" of snow but depths of 4" in Waterbury. It makes me wonder if there was a 1.5" difference in snowfall or if it was only a half inch based on snow depth with another inch due to different measuring technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nice J.Spin...so 5.3" total with a 4" depth. I admire your ability to clear every 6 hours (this event gave you 4 samples right?)...I've got around 4" on the ground and a storm total of 4". (no clearing).Makes me wonder if in fact that 4" is close to your 5.3" as we both ended with the same amount on the ground. I was looking at CoCoRAHS this morning and you could tell who clears and who doesn't by the difference in snowfall vs depth. The Stowe Village guy had 3.5" of snow at 7am but also a depth of 3.5" so I'm assuming he just measures what's on the ground. There was two spots with 4.8" and 5.0" of snow but depths of 4" in Waterbury. It makes me wonder if there was a 1.5" difference in snowfall or if it was only a half inch based on snow depth with another inch due to different measuring technique. This event would definitely come in lower if you measured it all on one fell swoop – especially with some granular flakes and some sleet pellets that fell on top of previous snow. The snow depth would have been in the 4 to 4.5-inch range if I simply did one check this morning. Six-hour intervals make a nice routine, and I’d like to do it all the time for consistency (well, probably not the overnight ones), but I’m typically on a 12-hour collection cycle (6:00 A.M. and 6:00 P.M.) on weekdays due to work and sleep. That’s usually pretty good though, and if the storm is big enough, cancellations and delays help to open up schedules for getting toward the 6-hour cycle – and bigger events provide a little more inspiration for potentially catching that overnight snowboard clearing. For this event I just happened to be grading exams late into the night last night, so being up, there was no way I was going to skip the midnight collection with the unsure nature of what was going to be coming in the morning. I’ve also been home this morning doing the same thing, so it let me get in a noontime collection. Doing the intermediate collections is certainly going to bias accumulations high relative to once a day collection places, but fortunately as adk has indicated in the past, the liquid equivalent is the big equalizer anyway – that’s independent of fluff factor and collection frequency. I really like getting all these intermediate snow densities through the storm though, you can really get a sense for what is going into the various layers in the snowpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainePhotog Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 -SN 26.0°F Snowfall: 3.30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Received an additional 1.5" since this am Total 5.0", Liquid Equiv .52" 9.6:1 ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 There's some room in interior maine and e nh(northern half of nh) for a upside surprise wrt snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxjim207 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 31.6F/31.3F here at Lyndon State with Very Light Mist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The next 2 systems look like crud for much of us, but I like our chances around the 27th and again right after New Year's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The next 2 systems look like crud for much of us, but I like our chances around the 27th and again right after New Year's. I guess you gotta define "us." The system of next week, were it to roll in exactly as modeled would be a major dump for elevations above 2500 feet along the green spine. Big fat wet stacked lows drifting over the greens and spinning to our n/e makes big time snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 get out the row boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I guess you gotta define "us." The system of next week, were it to roll in exactly as modeled would be a major dump for elevations above 2500 feet along the green spine. Big fat wet stacked lows drifting over the greens and spinning to our n/e makes big time snows. Well I'm talking synoptic...not mesoscale upslope. I think where most people in the subforum live, the next 2 synoptic events (tomorrow and Fri) look messy or rainy. The northern half of Maine obviously is looking very snow with this next system and they may be snowy in Aroostook in the 2nd as well. But yeah, the Greens should score this weekend on the backside of that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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