40/70 Benchmark Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Its you. I went through this myth a couple months ago. They did it twice in the same year (1/12/11 and 10/29/11) which made it seem like it happens all the time. Now again. Its you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 There was a big icestorm in mid Nov in the Nw hills up to ORH around 2005. I even had some icing on trees at 650 feet at my first house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 There was a big icestorm in mid Nov in the Nw hills up to ORH around 2005. I even had some icing on trees at 650 feet at my first house 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 yeah it really is. i honestly wouldn't be surprised if the wind along the coast is higher than it was a week ago. maybe we don't tap the high end of the gust spectrum but overall more locations may do "better" (careful with wording or cycloneslurrydipsh*t may get offfended) Red tagger rage! Good call on some frozen precip for this morning (on your website) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Ray also may be thinking of 12/26/10, but that was a further west longitude like NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Now again. Its you Well if you believe the NAM. Also, I really wouldn't even qualify it if the NAM solution happened...its not a full fledged CCB for hours and hours...its a 3 hour thump or so before it turns to sleet and pushes further NW into NY State as dynamics weaken rapidly. That would be like a clipper compared to the 1/12/11 and 10/29/11 CCBs...unless this forms further north and gives us better dynamics .The CCB is a lot more impressive to our south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 2002? Yes that was it. Lol you know me and my years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 2002? 11/17/02 was one of the state's worst ice storms. I can happen early in the season as long as you have a feed of low TD air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Well if you believe the NAM. Also, I really wouldn't even qualify it if the NAM solution happened...its not a full fledged CCB for hours and hours...its a 3 hour thump or so before it turns to sleet and pushes further NW into NY State as dynamics weaken rapidly. That would be like a clipper compared to the 1/12/11 and 10/29/11 CCBs...unless this forms further north and gives us better dynamics .The CCB is a lot more impressive to our south. Yea, I wasn't drawing a quantitative analogy, but rather a qualitative one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 11/17/02 was one of the state's worst ice storms. I can happen early in the season as long as you have a feed of low TD air. I drove through CT after that storm. Lots of trees bent over and snapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 11/17/02 was bad above about 500 feet in CT. There was actually a lot of IP up here in that one so the icing was only of the picturesque variety and not a huge impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 11/17/02 was one of the state's worst ice storms. I can happen early in the season as long as you have a feed of low TD air. I remember that...I grabbed a quick inch or two of slush, then over to rain it went.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 11/17/02 was one of the state's worst ice storms. I can happen early in the season as long as you have a feed of low TD air. Yeah that low was a coastal hugger. I remember that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I was in my other house in 2002 but the people we bought the house from told us that ice storm hit them hard. I remember distinctly the guy telling me about a lot of Limbs down. 650 feet we only had light icing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Should probably let the GFS run finish, but it seems to be continuing a trend that I saw a number of times with some of the late season severe setups where initially it concentrates the energy upfront with a sharper wave and over time senses energy coming in to the back side of the trough, broadening the base and lifting the front side dynamics north and slightly west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yeah that low was a coastal hugger. I remember that guy. I feel like this time of year is almost favored for that kind of storm... Where you need a super strong northerly ageostrophic component from an offshore low that has occluded and wrapped in lots of warm air from 950-700mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I was in my other house in 2002 but the people we bought the house from told us that ice storm hit them hard. I remember distinctly the guy telling me about a lot of Limbs down. 650 feet we only had light icing There was some icing your way but it was really a Farmington Valley and Litchfield County storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Early November ice storm? Has that ever happened in SNE? Granted, it is the NAM... There was a decent event 11/17/02 ...THE FOLLOWING ARE ICE ACCUMULATION REPORTS... LOCATION AMOUNT TIME COMMENTS ...MASSACHUSETTS... ...HAMPDEN COUNTY... WESTFIELD 1/8-1/2 INCH 405 AM ON THE 17TH WEST SPRINGFIELD 1/8 INCH 1100 PM ...MIDDLESEX COUNTY... FRAMINGHAM 1/4 INCH 1100 PM ...WORCESTER COUNTY... WORCESTER 1/2 INCH 251 AM ON THE 17TH SPENCER 3/8 INCH 1050 PM AT 900 FT ELEVATION NORTH BROOKFIELD 1/4-1/3 INCH 1100 PM 1000 FT ELEVATION AUBURN 1/4 INCH 1030 PM BIRCH TREES BENDING HOLDEN 1/4 INCH 1100 PM WORCESTER 1/4 INCH 1045 PM WHITE PINE BENDING SOUTHBORO 1/8 INCH 1030 PM ...CONNECTICUT... ...HARTFORD COUNTY... NORTH GRANBY THIN GLAZE 845 PM ...WINDHAM COUNTY... WOODSTOCK 1/4 INCH 110 AM ON 17TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Of course I don't remember that...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 GFS is definitely trending to the euro as far as low position goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Of course I don't remember that...lol There was more sleet the further north you went (and some snow to start too). I'm surprised ORH got a half inch of ice in the PNS that oceanstwx posted...that is a major ice storm, lol. I recalled more sleet there but then again, I didn't actually experience the storm as I was out in Ithaca, NY during my senior year of college. Though a half inch of ice is like a cakewalk compared to 2008, so I guess its all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 12z GFS stalls almost due east of ACY at 66h. ~988mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 GFS is definitely trending to the euro as far as low position goes. Between 18z Wed and 00z Thurs looks like some frozen precip in the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 We need that ULL to go to town a little further north on the GFS...we just don't get very godo dynamics. You can definitely see the cold air holding tougher though each run it seems. Despite cruddy dynamics, we actually get some -2C 850s over us for a bit as we wet bulb down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Between 18z Wed and 00z Thurs looks like some frozen precip in the interior. That's a big hit for Philly, but again, becomes a banded mess up here. There probably would be some snow to start in the interior, then mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 That's a big hit for Philly, but again, becomes a banded mess up here. There probably would be some snow to start in the interior, then mix. Mt Tolland Meltdown will ensue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 There was more sleet the further north you went (and some snow to start too). I'm surprised ORH got a half inch of ice in the PNS that oceanstwx posted...that is a major ice storm, lol. I recalled more sleet there but then again, I didn't actually experience the storm as I was out in Ithaca, NY during my senior year of college. Though a half inch of ice is like a cakewalk compared to 2008, so I guess its all relative. I'm completely spacing on the year (1998 maybe) that Berkshire County in late November started in the single digits and could recover by the time precip started. So they flash froze a quick half inch of ice before it flipped to rain and thunder. It was a big inland runner that slammed into a truly polar air mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 That's a big hit for Philly, but again, becomes a banded mess up here. There probably would be some snow to start in the interior, then mix. Like music to my ears, I think for us in Philly its going to be, if you get under the heavy precip you get accumulating snow, if not you get snow that melts on contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Nice hurricane force winds approaching LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Here's a look at the surface obs from the 11/17/02 ice storm. You can see the elevation dependency here with ORH 27/27 with low 30s down the lower elevations. Also look at the dew point reservoir in the teens advecting from northern New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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