Kaner587 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Fellow medical student here (4th yr at NYMC). I live in manhattan and was watching the drama unfold. I applaud all the heroic efforts to evacuate patients. On a larger scale, I think the effors of ALL first responders from the nj coast through ct was simply astounding. People risked their lives left and right for strangers. It was special to see and this region will really band together to hopefully restore normalcy as soon as is physically possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Pic of where the Long Beach NY lifeguard building used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Coney Island damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 West 29 St in Coney Island being cleared from tons of sand by a NYC Sanitation front end loader (2 more came to help out shortly after this pic was taken) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Another pic of West 29 St in Coney Island. The sand settled in "drifts" 3-4 ft high in spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Most of the Rockaway Beach Boardwalk has been displaced or missing totally. This pic shows the boardwalk completely off the concrete foundation and up against an ocean facing building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Another pic of the destroyed Rockaway Beach boardwalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 How's the Coney Island boardwalk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Surpisingly it was almost entirely intact in the area I was on today (West 29-33 streets) How's the Coney Island boardwalk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmichweather Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sure. So lets start with the basics. How do we mix higher winds down from aloft? That's when we look at soundings. Soundings allow us to look at the atmospheric profile and gives us a sense of how the atmosphere is laid out...which eventually may tell us how it will behave. In order to mix down stronger winds from a certain level, you must make sure there isn't an inversion. An inversion is a layer of warmer air aloft where the temperature would actually warm as you went higher in the atmosphere. In this example, there is no inversion in the lower levels. This was the OKX soundings at 8pm or 00z. How do we know there is no inversion? Look at the red line, That is the temperature of the atmosphere as you go up in altitude. To the left is the pressure in millibars. The lower the pressure, the higher up you are. On the bottom we have temperature in Celsius. So, lets follow this red line. As we go up below 850mb, notice how quickly the temperature decreases with height. That means a parcel as the potential to rise from the surface. Now on the right notice the wind barbs. That is 80 to 90 kts of wind right there. So now we have established that air will rise and we have strong winds just off the deck. Who cares, the air is rising right? What does this mean. Well here is the thing. In the atmosphere, if you are unstable..many times you'll get turbulent low level eddies. This means as air is rising, air also sinks. This is called mixing. So here is the deal, you had plenty of air trying to rise, but also turbulent eddy mixing allowed air to also sink. The sinking air carried with it strong winds from aloft. This is how we were able to mix down these ferocious winds. I kept this simple without getting to detailed with soundings, but basically that sounding is about as unstable as you will ever see in an environment like this. I've never seen anything like it. This was also well modeled. Awesome post! For anyone who hasn't taken a boundary layer meteorology class, he explained a nice compact way as to why the entire NE side of the storm rocked and the entire SW side blew chunks. Turbulent eddies above a stable layer will never let you get big wind gusts, when an inversion occurs you are basically cut off from the low-mid level flow. It acts like a lid. Entire SE side had that warm tropical air blowing in with the upper level support sliding over to provide a very unstable environment and one that was capable of transporting those high FL winds down. The SW side that had the cold air blowing in really didn't live up to they hype most locations barely reached lower end winds gusts. (Unless you were close to the center) They basically were dealing with the lowest 0-50 meter winds with little to no mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 A lot of Jersey beach looks like OC, MD after the Great March Storm 1962. It was nothing like 1962 here this time. Gotta be top 5 event for many and maybe #1 for NYC and some Jersey beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is def. within the top 3 destructive events for the area. Never have I ever seen so much damage to the coastline in my 30+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwang0725 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 First of all so sorry to everyone who had damage to their properties, it's really heartbreaking to see all the destruction. Just hoping someone can help... Anyone from the Ridgewood, NJ or Hohokus or Paramus area? I'm heading down there for a funeral this weekend. I've been told to expect no power, and also told that gas stations are basically out of gas and filling up involves waiting in very long lines and rationing so I should just make sure I have a full tank of gas before I enter NJ. I'm just trying to plan on how prepared to be and what gear I should bring with me since from what I've been told so far, it's pretty bad. I live in Ridgewood, NJ. Power is sporadic but slowly coming back, about half the town is still out. If you don't have a place to stay, just about every hotel within a 60 mile radius that has power is book solid for a week. Gas stations are slowly opening up (using generators). My wife came back from Boston on Tuesday night and was unable to fill the car up within 75 miles of home. None of the stations were open. But that was Tuesday. I filled up my car tonight and it took me about a 20 minutes to get gas. No rationing. Little by little, more and more stations are opening up. Yesterday, I saw 2 stations open and the lines were at least 1 hr long (60 cars deep), today there were at least 20 open and the lines were much shorter (20 cars deep). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Puppet Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Google map view of destruction of part of NJ shore http://google.org/crisismap/2012-sandy?hl=en&llbox=39.336573%2C39.333652%2C-74.480011%2C-74.486089&t=hybrid&layers=18%2C19%2C20%2C21%2C22%2C14%3A100%2C15%2C12%2Clayer4%2C9%2Clayer3%2C1337907303704%3A54&promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Not sure if anyone saw this... but there appears to be a new inlet in Mantaloking (I'm sure it will get filled in) Another perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Someone just posted a video of the extensive damage to the Long Beach boardwalk. This was my favorite place in the whole world for walks and bike rides. Long Beach is going to have a long recovery ahead of it, but we are going to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This next scene is shot from Laurelton and West Broadway a few hours before high tide. You can see the Hoffman Manor across the street. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCED0t8TOk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridingtime Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 A pretty impressive list of before and after pics from sandy: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/shocking-before-after-photos-of-hurricane-sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfsheepsheadbay Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/embed/3K2OWYG61GY Foul language at one point.Reminds me of the movie Cloverfield, watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is def. within the top 3 destructive events for the area. Never have I ever seen so much damage to the coastline in my 30+ years. Same here. It seems like a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This is the surge pouring into Long Beach shot from condo on National and the beach. You will need flash player to view this. http://www.facebook....v=4759138098065 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Power is finally back. Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This was a fire that burned down several homes in the canals section of Long Beach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No stations have gas. If someone needs gas, stay home. The rare stations that do have, has a 2-3 hour wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No stations have gas. If someone needs gas, stay home. The rare stations that do have, has a 2-3 hour wait. Same here in Brooklyn and Staten Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The traffic in SI is horrendous. I will be stuck there for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 lots of confusion out there, nyc gov saying taxis and livery cabs are exempt from the 3-people rule but we're seeing on TV dozens of taxis being refused to let in because they don't have any passengers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I can't get back to Brooklyn because I don't have 3 people in my car. What a ****ing stupid rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sounds like my parents may have power back....i dont yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Kingsborough college is under water. Coney Island is severely damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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