Entropy Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Well-known climate skeptic Steven Goddard is alleging that Hurricane Sandy made landfall as a weak tropical storm. See here: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-noaa-divide-by-two-factor/. He has arrived at this conclusion by looking at surface observations, generally based on land, and ignoring all contrary data obtained by the Hurricane Hunter aircraft from radiosondes and other means of estimating wind speeds over the open waters. He has also ignored the sustained winds of 111 mph at Mt. Washington, which is even higher than NOAA's classification. In any case, this is complete nonsense, as wind speeds on land are always going to be lower than those over the open waters. Heck, a buoy on Lake Erie already has 43 mph sustained winds at the international standard height of 10 m. I'd imagine sustained winds even over Lake Erie will reach 50 to 60 mph later tonight. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Well-known climate skeptic Steven Goddard is alleging that Hurricane Sandy made landfall as a weak tropical storm. See here: http://stevengoddard...-by-two-factor/. He has arrived at this conclusion by looking at surface observations, generally based on land, and ignoring all contrary data obtained by the Hurricane Hunter aircraft from radiosondes and other means of estimating wind speeds over the open waters. He has also ignored the sustained winds of 111 mph at Mt. Washington, which is even higher than NOAA's classification. In any case, this is complete nonsense, as wind speeds on land are always going to be lower than those over the open waters. Heck, a buoy on Lake Erie already has 43 mph sustained winds at the international standard height of 10 m. I'd imagine sustained winds even over Lake Erie will reach 50 to 60 mph later tonight. http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=45005 Are you still forecasting the warmest winter on record again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Well-known climate skeptic Steven Goddard is alleging that Hurricane Sandy made landfall as a weak tropical storm. See here: http://stevengoddard...-by-two-factor/. He has arrived at this conclusion by looking at surface observations, generally based on land, and ignoring all contrary data obtained by the Hurricane Hunter aircraft from radiosondes and other means of estimating wind speeds over the open waters. He has also ignored the sustained winds of 111 mph at Mt. Washington, which is even higher than NOAA's classification. In any case, this is complete nonsense, as wind speeds on land are always going to be lower than those over the open waters. Heck, a buoy on Lake Erie already has 43 mph sustained winds at the international standard height of 10 m. I'd imagine sustained winds even over Lake Erie will reach 50 to 60 mph later tonight. http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=45005 What else do you expect from a blathering idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 That's a crock. Recon data aside there have been gusts as high as 90 mph reported at inland coastal locations (Islip) which supports a Category one storm rating. Structually, the storm is not a classic and fights the "sloppycane" definition of Hurricane Josh where you have a monster windfield and only God knows where the maximum winds are going to be found. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Steven pulls this same shuck and jive shtick every time a hurricane or tropical storm makes landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkhorn Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Well-known climate skeptic Steven Goddard is alleging that Hurricane Sandy made landfall as a weak tropical storm. See here: http://stevengoddard...-by-two-factor/. He has arrived at this conclusion by looking at surface observations, generally based on land, and ignoring all contrary data obtained by the Hurricane Hunter aircraft from radiosondes and other means of estimating wind speeds over the open waters. He has also ignored the sustained winds of 111 mph at Mt. Washington, which is even higher than NOAA's classification. In any case, this is complete nonsense, as wind speeds on land are always going to be lower than those over the open waters. Heck, a buoy on Lake Erie already has 43 mph sustained winds at the international standard height of 10 m. I'd imagine sustained winds even over Lake Erie will reach 50 to 60 mph later tonight. http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=45005 It's nothing new. The guy knows as much about weather as he does about hungarian cabinet making. The unfortunate thing is there's no qualifications to publish a blog, and a majority of his readers are so far to the right and gullible that they never question anything he says. It's also unfortunate how much traffic and how many outside links he has. Someone this ignorant should not get this much publicity with a blog. Also, he will immediately ban you after calling you an idiot if you dare question him or point out how he's wrong with anything. He also doctors charts and data, and often cherry picks data or ignores the units of measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I would bet on a post about how 2012 is really 500k to 1 mil km up on 2007 right now in terms of sea ice this week since 2012 once again has fallen into the tank. He will likely use IMS charts and make up pixel counts, then bash and ban all who call him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkhorn Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I would bet on a post about how 2012 is really 500k to 1 mil km up on 2007 right now in terms of sea ice this week since 2012 once again has fallen into the tank. He will likely use IMS charts and make up pixel counts, then bash and ban all who call him out. The guy is still claiming that 97% of greenland melted when no scientist ever said that. He doesn't know what surface melt is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The guy is still claiming that 97% of greenland melted when no scientist ever said that. He doesn't know what surface melt is. It is really sad because of the attention he receives. regardless of ones position on AGW it doesn't have to be or need to be done like Steven Goddard. He has probably had 10K people or more know nothing about climate change and found his blog first and now believe a bunch of BS. It's Ethically horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 If he changed Sandy to Irene, I'd agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well-known climate skeptic Steven Goddard is alleging that Hurricane Sandy made landfall as a weak tropical storm. See here: http://stevengoddard...-by-two-factor/. He has arrived at this conclusion by looking at surface observations, generally based on land, and ignoring all contrary data obtained by the Hurricane Hunter aircraft from radiosondes and other means of estimating wind speeds over the open waters. He has also ignored the sustained winds of 111 mph at Mt. Washington, which is even higher than NOAA's classification. In any case, this is complete nonsense, as wind speeds on land are always going to be lower than those over the open waters. Heck, a buoy on Lake Erie already has 43 mph sustained winds at the international standard height of 10 m. I'd imagine sustained winds even over Lake Erie will reach 50 to 60 mph later tonight. http://www.ndbc.noaa...p?station=45005 This is not the first hurricane that he claimed was a weak tropical storm at landfall. To explain why the data doesn't fit with his view, he often comes up with the claim that NOAA or NHC are "manipulating" the data, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 As one of the many people that was impacted by this storm, I can testify that Goddard's dismissal of how serious this storm was is absolutely disgusting. The winds during this storm were unforgettable, and my local airport gusted to 82 mph. 13 roads are closed in my town, and I have never seen such damage in my home town. The coast was even hit harder than my location in Southern Somerset County, and the pictures that keep on coming from there are absolutely heart wrenching. Steven Goddard is a legitimate denier, and he sours the reputation of legitimate skeptics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryM Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Snowlover Sorry to hear of the local damage. The storm was huge & I feared power loss here west of Toronto. My area was not affected by more than some cold winds, but further west (Sarnia) was. Strangely enough I'd considered Sarnia as a possible safe haven if power had been cut here . Personally I refuse to view goddard's site - why add to his click count - and consider any argument based on his work to be so weakened that it's easy to dismiss without further research. It's very strange to find myself agreeing with a sentence containing both his name and "legitimate" without a negative qualifier. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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