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i thought i'd share this with you guys. A friend has a place in bethany Beach, he sent me the statisics from his weather Station on his roof from Sandy.

From my weather station located on the Bethany roof – I wasn’t even sure it survived the storm! (ah, the roof or the weather station!)

Rain 10/28 – 14.43 inches

Rain 10/29 – 20.68 inches!!! (That’s over 35 inches for the two days!)

Most rainfall – 2.29 inches per hour

Highest sustained wind – 40.3 mph

Highest gust – 56.4 mph

Just got here tonight – everything in great shape. We were so lucky!

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i thought i'd share this with you guys. A friend has a place in bethany Beach, he sent me the statisics from his weather Station on his roof from Sandy.

From my weather station located on the Bethany roof – I wasn’t even sure it survived the storm! (ah, the roof or the weather station!)

Rain 10/28 – 14.43 inches

Rain 10/29 – 20.68 inches!!! (That’s over 35 inches for the two days!)

Most rainfall – 2.29 inches per hour

Highest sustained wind – 40.3 mph

Highest gust – 56.4 mph

Just got here tonight – everything in great shape. We were so lucky!

The wind sounds about right, but the rain amount is way too high! The official total in Salisbury's airport (KSBY - closest official report to Bethany Beach) was 1.8" on 10/28 and 5.15" on 10/29. I seriously doubt anywhere in the USA received over 15". I think your friend needs to check out his rain gauge!

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See if you can get some tutoring help. I think there was a thread about this a while ago and some mets offered some good advice on how they got through it.

I'll second Jamie's advice. I struggled through Calc1, 2 and 3 weren't too bad and Differential Equations was hard again. I got through them and then the last 2 years were much easier (and more interesting/funner). This was for an engineering degree, but the math classes are the same I believe.

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See if you can get some tutoring help. I think there was a thread about this a while ago and some mets offered some good advice on how they got through it.

The problem is, I have tried tutoring for this second exam and still didn't do well.

This is also my second time in the course...failing this time would set me back way too far...

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The wind sounds about right, but the rain amount is way too high! The official total in Salisbury's airport (KSBY - closest official report to Bethany Beach) was 1.8" on 10/28 and 5.15" on 10/29. I seriously doubt anywhere in the USA received over 15". I think your friend needs to check out his rain gauge!

i agree its not correct. The house sits right on the beach, no far from the ocean, so i'm not sure if spray or something increased the number or not. i also wondered if the first number was the actual 2 day total.

also Salisbury and Bethany wouldn't be a good comparison to one another.

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The wind sounds about right, but the rain amount is way too high! The official total in Salisbury's airport (KSBY - closest official report to Bethany Beach) was 1.8" on 10/28 and 5.15" on 10/29. I seriously doubt anywhere in the USA received over 15". I think your friend needs to check out his rain gauge!

This is probably a stupid question but would the amount of sea spray in the air cause that?

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The problem is, I have tried tutoring for this second exam and still didn't do well.

This is also my second time in the course...failing this time would set me back way too far...

I had chronic struggles with 141 all the way up through 230 and 251. It was just something I always had trouble grasping no matter what I tried, especially when it came to taking those exams. Just have to keep at it and maybe start looking at some of the past final exams if they are available.

Not sure how your are with your late drop credits, scheduling situation, and etc but if you do have to end up retaking it.. I would suggest looking into doing 141G offered in the spring. Math 141G is Calc 2 geared for Earth and Mineral Science students, and it is laid out a lot more favorably than the standard 141 class where your grade pretty much hinges on the 2 exams and final.

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The problem is, I have tried tutoring for this second exam and still didn't do well.

This is also my second time in the course...failing this time would set me back way too far...

Lots of good pieces of advice here for you. Another is that if you manage to get by with a D, the college will waive it. They waive one D in a required course.

I got credited for 140 and 141 from BC calc in high school, but I have to say, those were some of the hardest courses I've ever taken to date and that includes grad courses like geophysical fluid dynamics wacko.png ! The calc is a lot of work, but I can assure you if you can get past it, you can handle the rest of the major.

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Models continue to have a coastal early next week. Todays Euro throws back some pretty decent precip while the GFS keeps us mainly dry. Either way looks like P-type would be all rain given detachment of any cold air source at that time. Beyond that, it appears that Thanksgiving weekend is starting to look pretty cold.. we might finally have that first true shot of winter cold and lake effect. That would be on schedule really, especially with Thanksgiving being pretty early this year. Aside from those last couple days, this November certainly isn't looking like the month-long indian summer last November was.

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I'll be meeting with my professor tomorrow to see what my chances are of passing the course first....

@Jmster I was not aware of this...I was basically told C or bust with all these courses.

Here is the meteo undergrad checklist they usually give out during your first advising meeting. Note that the highlighted courses appear to fall under "one D can be waived" section, though I would still clarify that with your advisor because it is a prerequisite. But it's worth a shot. One D might still be waived if you show enough determination and knowledge in your other courses.

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Source: http://ploneprod.met...sheet -2012.pdf

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I'll be meeting with my professor tomorrow to see what my chances are of passing the course first....

@Jmster I was not aware of this...I was basically told C or bust with all these courses.

To get a D waived, you must have tried the course at least once, which you have. After speaking with your advisor, they will refer you to Jon Nese, who would ultimately sign off on it.

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Well...hate to take it off-topic again...but, it doesn't look like I'll be making it as a meteorologist after all...calculus is so brutal sad.png

I feel your pain, I've had the same thought about being an engineer.

Just take it a class at a time. It doesn't matter how long it takes to graduate, it's not a race. If you have to repeat a class 3 times, so be it.

You also never know, I was sure I failed calc 2 last semester, but I ended up with a C. Professors notice those who are genuinely trying, and sometimes grade accordingly.

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While I thank you all for the advice -

I spoke with my adviser today, she told me that even if I could get the D waived, going forward, it would not really help things. It only gets tougher, and being not-so-adequate in Calculus really would not help me in the harder meteo courses. So...in the end, I think I'm just going to have drop out of the major. I won't abandon weather completely, but in terms of majoring in meteo, it's probably not going to happen. :(

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While I thank you all for the advice -

I spoke with my adviser today, she told me that even if I could get the D waived, going forward, it would not really help things. It only gets tougher, and being not-so-adequate in Calculus really would not help me in the harder meteo courses. So...in the end, I think I'm just going to have drop out of the major. I won't abandon weather completely, but in terms of majoring in meteo, it's probably not going to happen. sad.png

Question for the mets: How many use high level math on a daily basis?

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While I thank you all for the advice -

I spoke with my adviser today, she told me that even if I could get the D waived, going forward, it would not really help things. It only gets tougher, and being not-so-adequate in Calculus really would not help me in the harder meteo courses. So...in the end, I think I'm just going to have drop out of the major. I won't abandon weather completely, but in terms of majoring in meteo, it's probably not going to happen. sad.png

Sorry to hear that dude. Which math course is it again? I still think that the calculus used in meteo courses is not as difficult as the pure calc you get taught in the math courses. I've heard from many fellow classmates that math 141 was the hardest course in the meteo curriculum. I think physics 212 should be up there as one of the hardest too.

You are not the only one who had to leave meteo due to math. From my freshman year, easily 1/3 of my classmates left meteo within a year due to math. Most stayed in the college though, pursuing less quantitatively demanding majors like geography or EME. You can still apply meteo (or more specifically climatology) to a lot of what is offered in these.

Neffsvillewx: Even as a grad student I RARELY use calculus outside of courses. The obscure parts of calculus (trig substitution, rotation of solids, etc.) I never have used outside of calc 1 and 2. Statistics becomes much more important at least in my experience for research dealing with sea surface temperature. I think in general, unless you are a pure dynamicist, calculus is not as essential after courses as statistics.

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Question for the mets: How many use high level math on a daily basis?

As someone who is still trying to get into the field career wise (and still not having much luck), I don't use it at all currently. It kinda makes me glad I kept all my books/notes from the core 300/400 level classes cuz I would need a refresher with some things for sure haha.

It depends on what specific thing your doing within the met field. The high end math would be used most frequently in research type settings and less in operational forecasting/TV broadcasting. I'm sure our grad mets in here (JMister and Mallow) use it regularly for their classes. Either way, anyone achieving a met degree has to go through those required courses that are heavy on the calc/physics to achieve that understanding of how the atmosphere works in a mathematical sense. One obvious importance of that of course is that our computer models apply these complicated atmospheric equations to try to forecast what it will do in advance. It makes it nice from a forecasters perspective because the computer model is doing all the math, but it still helps to have that knowledge of what it's calculating and why.

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