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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

458 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

CTZ005>012-NJZ006-104-106-108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-300000-

NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-

NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-

SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-HUDSON-EASTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN ESSEX-EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-

NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-

KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN QUEENS-

NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

458 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

...OCCASIONAL DAMAGING WIND GUSTS OF 70-90 MPH EXPECTED ACROSS THE

NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA...LONG ISLAND...AND SOUTHERN

CONNECTICUT...THROUGH 8 PM...

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED WINDS UP TO 110 MPH

BETWEEN 1500 AND 3000 FEET. SOME OF THESE VERY STRONG...DAMAGING

WINDS WILL OCCASIONALLY REACH THE SURFACE...PRODUCING GUSTS OF

70-90 MPH ACROSS THE NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA...LONG

ISLAND...AND SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT THROUGH 8 PM. THE GUSTS TO THESE

LEVELS WILL BE MORE FREQUENT OVER SOUTHEASTERN CONNECTICUT AND

LONG ISLAND THAN OVER THE NEW YORK CITY METRO AREA.

GUSTS OF THIS MAGNITUDE WILL DOWN NUMEROUS TREES...INCLUDING LARGE

ONES. HIGH RISE BUILDINGS ARE ALSO SUSCEPTIBLE TO DAMAGE WITH

THESE GUSTS. PERSONS ARE URGED TO REMAIN SHELTERED IN A STURDY

BUILDING DUE TO THE THREAT OF FALLING TREES...LARGE LIMBS AND

FLYING DEBRIS.

$$

MALOIT

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Gotta tell ya - I know this is heresy here, but just as a layman looking at this, I don't see winds getting worse on LI with this storm - happy to be smacked down, but here's my rationale. Now I'm not talking about the water or flooding, so please don't say 'shame on you, what about the flooding', because I'm talking just about wind.

- It has essentially made landfall

- It's no longer a 'hybrid storm'. It's more like a regular hurricane which has made landfall

- When hurricanes make landfall, they weaken

- The eye of the storm is, what, 75 miles away?

One more point. I think as far as trees go here on LI, we've had a 'thinning of the herd' with March 2010 and Irene. The easy marks already fell in the last two years; the sturdy trees are left behind. We're at about 220K outages island wide. Not a small number by any means, but I wonder if it will really get much worse from here.

Let me have it...

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Gotta tell ya - I know this is heresy here, but just as a layman looking at this, I don't see winds getting worse on LI with this storm - happy to be smacked down, but here's my rationale. Now I'm not talking about the water or flooding, so please don't say 'shame on you, what about the flooding', because I'm talking just about wind.

- It has essentially made landfall

- It's no longer a 'hybrid storm'. It's more like a regular hurricane which has made landfall

- When hurricanes make landfall, they weaken

- The eye of the storm is, what, 75 miles away?

One more point. I think as far as trees go here on LI, we've had a 'thinning of the herd' with March 2010 and Irene. The easy marks already fell in the last two years; the sturdy trees are left behind. We're at about 220K outages island wide. Not a small number by any means, but I wonder if it will really get much worse from here.

Let me have it...

So why continue posting? Leave it up to the experts, please.

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Interesting that they put this out for NE NJ only east of the GSP.

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

458 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

CTZ005>012-NJZ006-104-106-108-NYZ071>075-078>081-176>179-300000-

NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX-

NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-

SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-HUDSON-EASTERN BERGEN-

EASTERN ESSEX-EASTERN UNION-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-

NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-

KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN QUEENS-

NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-

458 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

...OCCASIONAL DAMAGING WIND GUSTS OF 70-90 MPH EXPECTED ACROSS THE

NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA...LONG ISLAND...AND SOUTHERN

CONNECTICUT...THROUGH 8 PM...

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED WINDS UP TO 110 MPH

BETWEEN 1500 AND 3000 FEET. SOME OF THESE VERY STRONG...DAMAGING

WINDS WILL OCCASIONALLY REACH THE SURFACE...PRODUCING GUSTS OF

70-90 MPH ACROSS THE NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA...LONG

ISLAND...AND SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT THROUGH 8 PM. THE GUSTS TO THESE

LEVELS WILL BE MORE FREQUENT OVER SOUTHEASTERN CONNECTICUT AND

LONG ISLAND THAN OVER THE NEW YORK CITY METRO AREA.

GUSTS OF THIS MAGNITUDE WILL DOWN NUMEROUS TREES...INCLUDING LARGE

ONES. HIGH RISE BUILDINGS ARE ALSO SUSCEPTIBLE TO DAMAGE WITH

THESE GUSTS. PERSONS ARE URGED TO REMAIN SHELTERED IN A STURDY

BUILDING DUE TO THE THREAT OF FALLING TREES...LARGE LIMBS AND

FLYING DEBRIS.

$$

MALOIT

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Interesting that they put this out for NE NJ only east of the GSP.

There's too much friction and land that ENE or ESE winds need to travel over for Earthlight and I to see anything above hurricane force wind gusts, if not less. I think we'll see some gusts but only if we can get some actual rain bands to carry them down to the surface, and only then Im thinking more 50-60kt, not the 70-80kts that are being thrown around.

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Gotta tell ya - I know this is heresy here, but just as a layman looking at this, I don't see winds getting worse on LI with this storm - happy to be smacked down, but here's my rationale. Now I'm not talking about the water or flooding, so please don't say 'shame on you, what about the flooding', because I'm talking just about wind.

- It has essentially made landfall

- It's no longer a 'hybrid storm'. It's more like a regular hurricane which has made landfall

- When hurricanes make landfall, they weaken

- The eye of the storm is, what, 75 miles away?

One more point. I think as far as trees go here on LI, we've had a 'thinning of the herd' with March 2010 and Irene. The easy marks already fell in the last two years; the sturdy trees are left behind. We're at about 220K outages island wide. Not a small number by any means, but I wonder if it will really get much worse from here.

Let me have it...

The problem with your logic is that this isn't a typical hurricane. Sandy was a pure warm core hurricane, but part of the reason she's turned NW is b/c of the amplifying upper level trough capturing her. The trough overhead is pulling her NW in conjunction w/ the blocking feature east of New England. Both synoptic features are directing Sandy toward NJ. The capturing of Sandy by the ULL will cause her to transition into a hybrid upon landfall, when the wind field will enlarge, and her intensity will not weaken much until several hours after landfall, due to the incredible upper jet dynamics.

As others have noted, the strongest winds will occur from now until midnight, after landful, as we get the best transfer of winds from 850-900mb down to the surface. This is NOT a normal hurricane you'd see in the tropics or even your 'normal' Northeast hurricane.

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In the last 20 minutes an interesting effect has started here...we can hear crazy winds at the tree tops but the lower topped trees are not bending as much....definitely appears there is a bit less mixing to the immediate surface...very odd.

You can hear an absolute roar through the buildings here. It is wild.

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In the last 20 minutes an interesting effect has started here...we can hear crazy winds at the tree tops but the lower topped trees are not bending as much....definitely appears there is a bit less mixing to the immediate surface...very odd.

Most likely because the convective feed of rain while sandy was over the gulf stream has shut off. We're now in the dry pocket of an insanely flipped-over noreaster.

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