HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 That is nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Great article from UCAR about Sandy.. http://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/opinion/8243/hybridization-sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Less than five days after the storm, and 95% of the state has power. Great job power companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I dont know about that alot of people on the southern part of the state still dont have power.. the 95% of the state that does have power did not get hit nearly as bad Less than five days after the storm, and 95% of the state has power. Great job power companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I remember back when the models were forecastly this, we all saw it on 240 hr panels and laughed and chucked a few weenies . After all we see crazy phasing storms all the time in the long range models that either never happen or are much weaker than shown. Seems like it took until 96-108 hours out to realize that this was actually going to happen because of how crazy it was. Even then many people (HPC included) weren't buying the <950 mb pressured the models were showing mainly because of lack of historical precedant. Wasnt until Sandy's second round of intensification down to ~950 mb we we realize that 940-950 mb depictions were actually correct. Am guessing there will be much post analysis done on Sandy/examination of hybrid storms in general given the extreme nature of this event and its impact. Was also thinking about Sandy and the possible connection to '38. Obviously '38 was a stronger storm at landfall and moving much faster. Not sure how much the faster speed contributed to the stronger winds though or how big the wind field was, probably not as large as Sandy. Would '38 being earlier in the year=warmer temperature led to more winds at the surface also? The pressures of both were the same at landfall so certainly worth looking it. Also '38 may have retained more tropical characteristic prior to landfall as it was a stronger storm and was likely not sheared as strongly prior to any ET transition. Needless to say we do not have satellite imagery of the storm so do not know what it looked like from that point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I dont know about that alot of people on the southern part of the state still dont have power.. the 95% of the state that does have power did not get hit nearly as bad 270,000 CT residents do not have power tonight in freezing temperatures. Meters out do not represent people. Handing out congrats after 6 days is premature. This was not Irene or Roctober in interior CT. Let's see how they do in the areas that really got rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Less than five days after the storm, and 95% of the state has power. Great job power companies. I agree that they've really done a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I agree that they've really done a good job. Well let's see what transpires, after Rocktober after 6 days, 37,000 were without power and the media wanted their heads, today is day 6, 65,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well let's see what transpires, after Rocktober after 6 days, 37,000 were without power and the media wanted their heads, today is day 6, 65,000. Yea its interesting I think the areas impacted this year made a difference. It was borderline WW3 last year when Farmington Valley was ground zero and people around here were losing it. Also I think the cold made a difference with the outrage. Overall though from what I saw the overall response didn't seem much better to me, more days dedicated to "assessment" to cover themselves but action was weak it seems seeing as the resources were all in place this time. I saw out of state trucks as of Saturday and restoration didn't start until Weds offically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Weren't things for fooked up this time as far as damage though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well let's see what transpires, after Rocktober after 6 days, 37,000 were without power and the media wanted their heads, today is day 6, 65,000. Your numbers aren't even close. Plus there have only been 5 full days of restoration so far... Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. As of Thursday night at 11 p.m. following the October snowstorm (which would be 5 full days of restoration... Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) there were 345,000 CL&P customers in the dark!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Your numbers aren't even close. Plus there have only been 5 full days of restoration so far... Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. As of Thursday night at 11 p.m. following the October snowstorm (which would be 5 full days of restoration... Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) there were 345,000 CL&P customers in the dark!!! Yea sorry that was Irene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yea sorry that was Irene At 5 p.m. on Friday Septmber 2nd (which would have been 5 days following the storm... starting at 5 p.m. on Sunday 8/28 once winds died down)... there were 145,000 customers without power after Irene. By every metric CL&P is doing a much better job. Part tree trimming and part staging crews and part better communication/organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Wait... Ryan givig props to CL&P? The world turns upside down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 At 5 p.m. on Friday Septmber 2nd (which would have been 5 days following the storm... starting at 5 p.m. on Sunday 8/28 once winds died down)... there were 145,000 customers without power after Irene. By every metric CL&P is doing a much better job. Part tree trimming and part staging crews and part better communication/organization. Oh the Witt graph is wrong then, thanks. Again we will see now that they are down to nitty gritty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Oh the Witt graph is wrong then, thanks. Again we will see now that they are down to nitty gritty. I'm just using our numbers here from when the "storm" ended. It depends on when you start the "day" so there graph is not wrong. It just depends on what you define as a day and when you start it... if you get what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Wait... Ryan givig props to CL&P? The world turns upside down... Credit where credit is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Wait... Ryan givig props to CL&P? The world turns upside down... Premature, Irene had many more trees and severe transmission line damage due to full leaf and we know about Roctober. Yes they are doing better but handing out kudos is premature. When the 190,000 bodies have heat the job is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Premature, Irene had many more trees and severe transmission line damage due to full leaf and we know about Roctober. Yes they are doing better but handing out kudos is premature. When the 190,000 bodies have heat the job is done. I'm not sure what people expect. When you have hours and hours of 60+ knot wind gusts and partially foliated trees it's going to take time to get the lights back on. From what I've heard around the state is that many are pleased with the response and I see no reason to criticize them at this juncture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Credit where credit is due. Can you give me the daily numbers on Sandy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 btw - posted a bit about Sandy's winds here http://ryanhanrahan.com/2012/11/03/a-closer-look-at-sandys-damaging-wind/ To me it seems like Sandy was the most impressive windstorm on the Connecticut shoreline since 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm not sure what people expect. When you have hours and hours of 60+ knot wind gusts and partially foliated trees it's going to take time to get the lights back on. From what I've heard around the state is that many are pleased with the response and I see no reason to criticize them at this juncture. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Can you give me the daily numbers on Sandy? Don't have them day by day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Don't have them day by day. Was Sandy 4th or 3rd most outages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Was Sandy 4th or 3rd most outages? 4th... but very close to Gloria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 How many people lost power in Gloria? 500k customers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Sorry socks I deleted your post by mistake. Stupid iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The damage from sandy was not nearly as bad in the interior last years october storm was way worse in terms of damage from falling trees and wires.. areas hit hard by sandy still dont have power and it could be awhile until they do.. I think it seems like cl&p is doing a good job because its less of an area severely affected.. but in reality they are doing just as bad as last years october snowstorm.. just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I missed out on Irene...but the people I've talked to all agree that Sandy was not nearly as bad here on the coast with respect to tree damage. I just don't know if you can make an apples to apples comparison with outage numbers with this event to Irene or the October snow. And I certainly wouldn't credit any improvement to tree trimming...at least not in my town. All that said...I think the crews are doing a good job all things considered, and I don't doubt there's been some improvement since last years storms. I just think its hard to assess simply by playing a numbers game with outage figures. We're still out FWIW. Down to just 7% in town...starting to think our street may be the last ones. I can see a working streetlight just two houses down and seems most of the main road to which our street connects is restored. Bit of a bummer, but reminding myself it could be way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Battery was roughly 10 ft....western LI sound near 10 ft and south shore of LI around 8-9ft. Def cat 2 if not cat 3 surge in spots for sure It was 12.5 ft in King's Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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