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Is there a potential for a sting jet with this setup then?

That is the sting jet, but this "sting jet" is more a function of strong southeast winds being able to mix down. To me, this would include central NJ. NYC, and as Ryan said parts of CT, especially coastal SW CT.

The winds up here are from an erly LLJ.

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That is the sting jet, but this "sting jet" is more a function of strong southeast winds being able to mix down. To me, this would include central NJ. NYC, and as Ryan said parts of CT, especially coastal SW CT.

The winds up here are from an erly LLJ.

The ultimate landfall location will determine where the sting jet goes. If it does make landfall right of NHC track/guidance then I think HVN/BDR are in more trouble.

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Looks like as I was talking about yesterday, the upslope regions up here won't get that gusty...BTV brought it up in the AFD and it makes sense, if air is being forced to rise due to terrain, that low level jet will be forced over the towns that lay in the eastern shadow of big terrain. We do upslope precipitation well but not wind. From BTV:

"Still thinking very stable low level on upslope side of the Green Mountains will limit high wind threat from Ludlow to Waitsfield to Stowe...as air will be rising as it hits the mountains and momentum Transfer to the surface will be minimum. Expect gusts between 35 and 45 miles per hour. "

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The ultimate landfall location will determine where the sting jet goes. If it does make landfall right of NHC track/guidance then I think HVN/BDR are in more trouble.

Yeah those cities probably more in jeopardy with an erly track. Even the NAM had BDR gusting to 65kts. NAM bufkit wasn't too impressive up this way..bit of an inversion.

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So am I reading it right that there are different sting jets then? The one I was referring to was the sting jet where the polar gets shunted to the surface into the SE quadrant of a cyclone. Basically associated with storms crashing into western Europe. By the way thanks for the replies.

I hate the term sting jet, it's just a LLJ on the east side of the storm.

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I hate the term sting jet, it's just a LLJ on the east side of the storm.

First I had ever heard of it was your discussion a couple of days ago. I had thought it basically referred to the setup where the polar jet catches up to the subtropical jet and gets shunted down. I didn't realize it was a general term when the jet gets shunted to the surface.

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First I had ever heard of it was your discussion a couple of days ago. I had thought it basically referred to the setup where the polar jet catches up to the subtropical jet and gets shunted down. I didn't realize it was a general term when the jet gets shunted to the surface.

I think people were talking about a possible tropopause fold. IMO, it's just a strong LLJ that will rotate in north and northeast of the center, aided by forward motion. The thing is already 946mb...it's not like it will rapidly intensify even more.

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So this thing is going to pretty much make landfall as a hurricane. Good thing we don't have hurricane warnings in effect!

Regardless I think the local NWSFOs have done a superb job with messaging and impacts. I feel like at least our station is on the same page with threats and getting the word out.

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So this thing is going to pretty much make landfall as a hurricane. Good thing we don't have hurricane warnings in effect!

Regardless I think the local NWSFOs have done a superb job with messaging and impacts. I feel like at least our station is on the same page with threats and getting the word out.

Yes, fantastic job by everyone getting the word out and doing everything they can to stress the importance and significance of the situation. With everyone seeing what occurred with Irene last year that really helped the situation as well as people were likely more willing to heed the warnings.

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you guys have been doing an amazing job and by far the best and will save people!

So this thing is going to pretty much make landfall as a hurricane. Good thing we don't have hurricane warnings in effect!

Regardless I think the local NWSFOs have done a superb job with messaging and impacts. I feel like at least our station is on the same page with threats and getting the word out.

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Related Sandy news. Just heard that HMS Bounty is in peril off the coast of North Carolina. Taking on water in high seas. 17 on board. Hope they all can be saved.

They have abandoned that ship - it would appear

http://wtkr.com/2012...-near-hatteras/

Note that was 160 miles west of the center!

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Portsmouth, Va. — The Coast Guard has received word that the crew of the tall ship HMS Bounty has abandoned ship approximately 90 miles southeast of Hatteras N.C.

The 17 person crew donned cold water survival suits and lifejackets before launching in two 25-man lifeboats with canopies.

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They have abandoned that ship - it would appear

http://wtkr.com/2012...-near-hatteras/

Note that was 160 miles west of the center!

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Portsmouth, Va. — The Coast Guard has received word that the crew of the tall ship HMS Bounty has abandoned ship approximately 90 miles southeast of Hatteras N.C.

The 17 person crew donned cold water survival suits and lifejackets before launching in two 25-man lifeboats with canopies.

With this storm being advertised a week out it begs the question why were they even out there?

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So this thing is going to pretty much make landfall as a hurricane. Good thing we don't have hurricane warnings in effect!

Regardless I think the local NWSFOs have done a superb job with messaging and impacts. I feel like at least our station is on the same page with threats and getting the word out.

The local W MA stations have been very level headed. Avoiding hype but telling people there would be outages and there would be damage. Ensuring people the Irene type flooding would not be occuring.

There's still sure to be a lot of people b*tching today about why school was canceled in W MA.

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