das Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Hard to call this an "observation" but it is a photo... Shark swimming in a neighborhood in coastal New Jersey. From daughter so likely pulled from Facebook or something so no source attributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 gotta be fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 gotta be fake Yes. My wife was looking at a blog earlier regarding fake "Sandy" pics, and there were several "shark in the water" pics that were called out as fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Two updates from Jeff L (HCFCD): 1.) Catastrophic flooding in progress in New York City. FDNY can no longer respond to numerous 911 calls due to extensive flooding. FDNY requesting numerous boats to move personnel out of flooding fire stations. Subway and tunnels are flooding and LaGuardia Airport is now completely inundated with sea water. Con ED is cutting all power to all lower Manhattan. Water levels now at 13.45ft and still rising at Battery Park. Water over car tops in East Village. Water levels now 1-2.5 ft beyond previous records. 2.)Catastrophic flooding inundating NYC. All tunnels/subways filling with sea water. Entire Coney Is/E Village under 6-8’ water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderrr Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Haven't seen this posted: Live updating with a lot of good pictures and updates: http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Tracking_Hurricane_Sandy_2#ixzz2AjblQOCp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Adam Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 We have had relatively calm conditions in northern Atlantic County, NJ for the past 4 hours but wind has now picked up again, 30+. Numerous trees down as expected, many on wires. Shore flooding in Mystic Island, NJ (Ocean County) reported at least 1.5' higher than '92 (via phone from my father whom is still there, turned down an evac from the fire company deuce). Currently listening to ongoing structure fire in Brigantine on police radio, firefighters reporting water up to windshield on fire truck trying to get to scene. My town is without power but neighboring towns have power, only store open was a Chinese food restaurant. Generator is running to keep sump pumps going, thankgoodness for the breaks in the rain. It also helps to cut out the wind noise outside. Its much easier dealing with the wind during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Thundersnow reported in Johnstown, PA!! METAR KJST 300154Z AUTO 30021G30KT 2SM -TSSN BR OVC006 01/00 A2905 RMK AO2 PK WND 31035/0100 LTG DSNT S AND NW TSB05E20B44 SLP848 P0005 T00060000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 949 PM EST MON OCT 29 2012 ..RECORD HIGH WATER LEVEL AT THE BATTERY NY A RECORD HIGH WATER LEVEL OF 13.88 FEET WAS SET AT THE BATTERY NY TODAY AT 9:24 PM. THIS BREAKS THE OLDEST OFFICIAL RECORD OF 10.02 FEET SET IN 1960 WITH HURRICANE DONNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The Weather Channel keeps showing the wrong tide chart for King's Point on the east side of Manhattan, high tide isn't until after midnight and water levels aren't dropping yet. Water rise leveling off as winds shift to out of the south though, but the east side of Manhattan and the boroughs on Long Island will be in peak flooding for a few more hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Everyone keeps getting the old record incorrect too. Highest and Lowest Values Station: 8518750 Begin Date: 18000503 Name: The Battery, NY End Date: 20121030 Product: High/Low Units: Feet Datum: StnDatum Quality: Verified Rank Highest Highest Date Zone Lowest Lowest Date Zone ---- ------- -------------- ---- ------- -------------- ---- 1 13.30 19600912 13:00 LST -1.00 19760202 16:30 LST 2 12.99 19921211 14:00 GMT -0.91 19780110 16:12 LST 3 12.80 20110828 12:42 GMT -0.50 19660109 04:24 LST 4 12.09 20100313 23:42 GMT -0.24 19800316 02:06 LST 5 12.01 19911031 03:36 LST -0.23 19800316 00:00 LST 6 11.81 19840329 08:12 LST -0.19 19850208 17:24 LST 7 11.73 19921212 02:18 GMT -0.15 19710127 15:36 LST 8 11.66 19870102 10:30 LST -0.13 19690102 01:12 LST 9 11.64 19930314 05:00 GMT -0.10 19760317 15:42 LST 10 11.62 19681112 10:42 LST -0.01 19800315 13:36 LST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardWx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I don't even want to know how many billions of dollars of damage have been done.. How many are without power now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 LOL....Nassau county executive just ordered all roads closed...hard to see that one get followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Devastating surge here in Connecticut. Worst surge since Hurricane Carol east of Madison, CT and worst surge since 1938 west of Madison all the way to Greenwich. Peak surge I found was ~11.5 ft during the peak of the storm... and thankfully the surge dropped a bit before high tide... but still a catastrophic flooding event with widespread inundation and structures destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cleveland is getting hammered right now...perfect setup for high winds with the flow coming right in off of Erie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The FDNY dispatch out of Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens is terrifying. Fires, people trapped, man drowning in cellar. God help those in the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cleveland is getting hammered right now...perfect setup for high winds with the flow coming right in off of Erie. Thinking of stepping outside with camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The FDNY dispatch out of Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens is terrifying. Fires, people trapped, man drowning in cellar. God help those in the path. Listening to it online now. Crazy in NYC. http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/9358/web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I wasn't going to step outside due to the strong gusts nearby of 61 mph or so. However, I did open the porch door to allow the wind captured in the dark video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Receiving some absolutely chilling news now in the EOC. Crisfield, MD: Evacuation aborted due to worsening conditions...will resume ar 8am. Hundreds of citizens left trapped in homes that were succumbing by flood waters. Catastrophic loss in the City of Crisfield". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billgwx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Think of the insurance industry impact caused by this storm being declared post-tropical right before landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Receiving some absolutely chilling news now in the EOC. Crisfield, MD: Evacuation aborted due to worsening conditions...will resume ar 8am. Hundreds of citizens left trapped in homes that were succumbing by flood waters. Catastrophic loss in the City of Crisfield". One aspect that may be overlooked is exposure and hypothermia issues for anyone in a flooded home thats not in danger of drowning but that is soaked and standing in cold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Think of the insurance industry impact caused by this storm being declared post-tropical right before landfall. I imagine NHC will be talked about over the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I imagine NHC will be talked about over the next few days. I predict the insurance industry will call it a hurricane regardless and a class action lawsuit by policy holders will ensue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I predict the insurance industry will call it a hurricane regardless and a class action lawsuit by policy holders will ensue. I'm not a fan of insurance companies, and I can already mentally picture an insurance agent telling me "sorry, but because the storm originated as a hurricane, per article 27, section L of your policy, the major damage sustained to your home is not covered. Sorry. Don't forget your next policy payment due date is on the 10th, have a good day". Interested to see the total damage to structure (primarily residential) associated with this, as i'm sure in some area's seriously affected, any slight glimmer of hope of a rebounding housing market will be temporarily shelved. Could be lots of displaced people/families, with little, to no means, of getting readily accessible funds (whether it be through insurance or financial lending) to replace, repair, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'm not a fan of insurance companies, and I can already mentally picture an insurance agent telling me "sorry, but because the storm originated as a hurricane, per article 27, section L of your policy, the major damage sustained to your home is not covered. Sorry. Don't forget your next policy payment due date is on the 10th, have a good day". Interested to see the total damage to structure (primarily residential) associated with this, as i'm sure in some area's seriously affected, any slight glimmer of hope of a rebounding housing market will be temporarily shelved. Could be lots of displaced people/families, with little, to no means, of getting readily accessible funds (whether it be through insurance or financial lending) to replace, repair, etc... I was thinking earlier than Sandy could temporarily dampen the overall economy back into a recession as people use precious savings to survive rather than prosper. Countering that will be the influx of money for rebuilding next year, so the economy may get a boost. Over time, the net effect could be positive (economically) in that infrastructure improvements will be made for future needs that otherwise wouldn't have been financially or politically possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJStorms Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 According to neighbors that stayed behind, my house is in bad shape. All houses flooded and ours sits lowest. 7 ft of water came through. I'm itching to get over there. I may have nothing but a couple of bedrooms left on the 2nd floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcashwell Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 According to neighbors that stayed behind, my house is in bad shape. All houses flooded and ours sits lowest. 7 ft of water came through. I'm itching to get over there. I may have nothing but a couple of bedrooms left on the 2nd floor. So sorry to hear this. Praying for you and yours. The air travel delays are also very serious. Be sure to check with your airline if you need to move a flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Morning update from Jeff L (HCFCD): Historic Sandy continues to battered much of the eastern US. Numerous weather records have fallen from lowest central pressures to highest storm surge heights (I will compile an e-mail on all Sandy’s records in the next few days once they are verified). Thus far the death toll stands at 16 with potential damages estimate at over 25 billion dollars. President Obama declares major disaster declaration for New York City and Long Island. Incredible record 32.5 ft wave recorded in New York Harbor overnight surpassing the 26 foot record in Hurricane Irene! 7.5 million persons are without power in 11 states. Con Ed indicates significant damage has occurred to the NYC underground power system due to flooding. Back-up power generation at some NYC hospitals have failed due to flooding and this is requiring unprecedented evacuation of hundreds of patients similar to what happen at the Texas Medical center during TS Allison. Levee failure in northern New Jersey has completely flooded three entire towns this morning with an estimated 1000 persons trapped in their attics and on rooftops. In the 108 years of the New York City Massive Transit System: “ it has never faced a disaster as devastating as last night” 7 subway tunnels under the East River were flooded. 6 bus garages were flooded. Hugh Carey Tunnel is flooded end to end and the Queens Midtown Tunnel is flooded. A massive fire has burned over 50 homes in Queens due to arcing power lines and strong winds. Showing the size of this event: 60mph winds and 24 foot waves are expected near Chicago today! 12,500 airline flights have been cancelled and many major NE airports are closed and have taken either flooding or wind damage. We have not fully grasped the scope and magnitude of this disaster, but based on sketchy reports from Long Island and the New Jersey coast, the damage is “incredible”! Sunrise this morning will reveal the full magnitude of the destruction. Note: I strongly advise everyone in this day of instant media “twitter and facebook” to be wary of reports. While much of the reports last evening were real time, only about 20% were actually true. Brooklyn PATH Subway Flooding Entrance near Battery Tunnel Water entering WTC Southampton, NY Edgewater, NJ Atlantic City, NJ Del Coast Hoboken, NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmiez Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I predict the insurance industry will call it a hurricane regardless and a class action lawsuit by policy holders will ensue. I found the New York State Guidelines for Hurricane Deductibles. I'd say 2/3 only apply to category 2 and above storms. The others mention claims 12 hours prior or 12 hours after landfall. http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/homeown/pdf/awindded.pdf A few notes: - flood coverage is usually outside the deductible wording (I believe thats a regulation) - things like trees falling on your car / house: Well it was a hurricane at 659:PM Monday night. - some of the deductible wording is around wind speed (i.e. 74 mph) and it was at 80 mph at landfall. - the buyers knew about the deductible when the policy was bound - despite the 0.001% of examples we read in the news, insurance industry usually is quick to pay claims during catastrophes. - States will step in, the insurance regulators always have the final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'm not a fan of insurance companies, and I can already mentally picture an insurance agent telling me "sorry, but because the storm originated as a hurricane, per article 27, section L of your policy, the major damage sustained to your home is not covered. Sorry. Don't forget your next policy payment due date is on the 10th, have a good day". Interested to see the total damage to structure (primarily residential) associated with this, as i'm sure in some area's seriously affected, any slight glimmer of hope of a rebounding housing market will be temporarily shelved. Could be lots of displaced people/families, with little, to no means, of getting readily accessible funds (whether it be through insurance or financial lending) to replace, repair, etc... Some of us work in this industry, and it is our livelihood. And yes sometimes major damage is not covered. My frustration when people are upset with the deductible is that this is basically the only item on your policy that you get to pick. There should be no surprises when a deductible is applied... I already see complaints in social media about insurance companies not being responsive. Are you kidding me? I am sitting with my bags packed ready to board a plane to start helping folks, but we have to figure out where we can stay (we can do nothing with no power) and how to get there (airports closed/delayed). The industry as a whole is very quick in catastrophes, but understand, your missing shingles are going to get pushed way back while we deal with the people who have trees in their bedroom. In all reality, if any individual companies attempt to enforce a hurricane deductible will be quickly smacked back into place by the local state's department of insurance. I cant see this happening, as there is little dispute that it was post-tropical at landfall (But I cannot speak for the wording of all underwriting companies hurricane deductible). My bigger concern from the industry will be the water damage and flooding that has happened in areas that have not flooded in decades. The possibility exists that many of these people do not have flood insurance, and as many people know, the homeowners policy will not ever sniff at ground water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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