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Sandy/EC Discussion Part IV


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That is an extremely impressive cross section for a place as far north as ORH...

Looks like Monday night will be an all nighter for tracking the obs on this thing. I just hope enough of you in SNE can retain power in order to post observations. That's half the fun of a storm like this...sharing it with like minded individuals.

Spare batteries for everyone's weather station monitors. Imagine not being able to track your winds/rainfall becuase you lost power???

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I really think MQE may be the spot to be for high winds... they'll be just far enough off the deck to get slammed by those ESE winds coming in off the ocean without losing speed to friction with the surface.

You eastern MA weenies should camp out up there on Monday night.

I think MQE could gust 100mph if the GFS verified. They'd certainly be a deadbolt lock for 80mph.

But there's plenty of uncertainty still in how close the storm comes when it makes the left hand turn.

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I think MQE could gust 100mph if the GFS verified. They'd certainly be a deadbolt lock for 80mph.

But there's plenty of uncertainty still in how close the storm comes when it makes the left hand turn.

I suppose anyone's guess is as good as the next guy's with this. But, do you expect we will get some decent track clarity tonight? I'm guessing we'll need another 12 hours or so.

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It's possible with storm surge forecasted that the area about half mile away near the neponset river gets flooded by tidal surge. That would literally leave me one way to get to 93.....cutting through the city. Not sure when the last time that area flooded. Maybe perfect storm and blizzard of '78.

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I really think MQE may be the spot to be for high winds... they'll be just far enough off the deck to get slammed by those ESE winds coming in off the ocean without losing speed to friction with the surface.

You eastern MA weenies should camp out up there on Monday night.

If the GFS is right then EMA weenies will be inside with gusts on the coast to 80
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I think MQE could gust 100mph if the GFS verified. They'd certainly be a deadbolt lock for 80mph.

But there's plenty of uncertainty still in how close the storm comes when it makes the left hand turn.

Yeah I was thinking if anyone in SNE sees the 100mph gust, I think MQE (at least of the official reporting stations) would have the best chance being elevated off the deck a bit. That extra 500ft on the coastal plain could make a huge difference and really take wind speeds to a whole other level.

I'd pay money to spend Monday night on MQE.

Also, out of curiosity, what's the highest building in Boston? Speaking of buildings, can you imagine being on top of the Empire State Building during this? At 1,000ft in the air near the water there is almost a lock for hurricane force winds.

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It's possible with storm surge forecasted that the area about half mile away near the neponset river gets flooded by tidal surge. That would literally leave me one way to get to 93.....cutting through the city. Not sure when the last time that area flooded. Maybe perfect storm and blizzard of '78.

There was horrendous flooding there too in 1992...I know a lot of spots almost hit the 1991 surge marks in Dec '92...but the max of '92 was just barely too far south to break the records like '78. It broke most of the modern records in NNJ and LI sound.

If this takes a wider, more north turn...which would probably make it slower...then the surge on E MA coast would be pretty bad. Exposing it to more than one tide cycle.

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First Winter Storm Watch of the season east of the Mississippi has been issued in West Virginia... Tippy's dream of a hurricane with snow.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV

349 PM EDT FRI OCT 26 2012

...THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL OF THE SEASON...

.THE REMNANTS OF HURRICANE SANDY WILL LIKELY MOVE INTO NORTHERN

WEST VIRGINIA...TO INTERACT WITH A STALLING COLD FRONT...AND ITS

ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH.

WVZ038-046-047-270400-

/O.NEW.KRLX.WS.A.0004.121029T0600Z-121031T0000Z/

WEBSTER-POCAHONTAS-RANDOLPH-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...COWEN...MARLINTON...ELKINS

349 PM EDT FRI OCT 26 2012

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH

TUESDAY EVENING...

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I've got Tuesday off... thinking about spending the night atop Mount Mansfield at 4,000ft in one of the one-room "off-the-grid" shacks that are up there. Even though its way north, I think the summits will still be able to pull some 80+mph gusts judging by H85 wind speeds up here.

LOL--I was thinking it would probably be neat to be at Bascom Lodge on the summit of Mt. Greylock. Only 3500', but I bet it would rock pretty good.

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There was horrendous flooding there too in 1992...I know a lot of spots almost hit the 1991 surge marks in Dec '92...but the max of '92 was just barely too far south to break the records like '78. It broke most of the modern records in NNJ and LI sound.

If this takes a wider, more north turn...which would probably make it slower...then the surge on E MA coast would be pretty bad. Exposing it to more than one tide cycle.

I don't know specifically how this area did, just can only go by how high it is above mean high tide. Think even a 3-4' surge would bing water in. It floods already when heavy rain and high tides coincide, although rain is not the worry here. How did 00z tropical models do?

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I've got Tuesday off... thinking about spending the night atop Mount Mansfield at 4,000ft in one of the one-room "off-the-grid" shacks that are up there. Even though its way north, I think the summits will still be able to pull some 80+mph gusts judging by H85 wind speeds up here.

That would be a great spot, ever spend the night there in a snowstorm?

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I don't know specifically how this area did, just can only go by how high it is above mean high tide. Think even a 3-4' surge would bing water in. It floods already when heavy rain and high tides coincide, although rain is not the worry here. How did 00z tropical models do?

I don't have the link for that plot of the tropical dynamic forecast models. I used to on my old laptop but not on this one.

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I'm showing my age here but talk about memories. Vivid memories of Donna in 1960. The flooded Menatoquit River in Braintree was so severe it extended from the armory to the MBTA station. Weymouth landing was 30' under water. I doubt Blue Hill will exceed the 145mph gust. Just some benchmark records.

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