weatherbo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 haven't been out, but picked up around 2.5" thru the night.... snowing lightly still. very favorable fetch later today into monday with 3-6' likely.Kinda expect an advisory later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Just measured 4" here in central MI, wayyy more than expected, was only expecting about an inch! This was a nice b-day present for me since my b-day is tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Oddly, pavement is covered but not grass. I want to see a picture of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoos0728 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 265 days...and counting in MKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 1.5" total last night and just enough to use the shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I want to see a picture of that. Surprisingly it is pretty accurate at least down by the airport it was. The freeways even had snow/slush on them. There were many spin outs on the way home, I passed 5 just from Downtown to Eastpointe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Congrats once again to Oakland county as usual! Cant wait to shovel here. As much as I love snow my back couldnt take it near the end of 2010-11...last year I shoveled everything and I cant wait to do it this season. Heard reports of 2" in Lapeer and 3" in Midland. Im going to Frankenmuth tomorrow Id love for some snow to be left! What a nice wintry start to Sunday morning. Snow falling, dusting everything, and its powder which is my favorite! Ended up with 0.3" here, and expected NOTHING south of the city. No models had any qpf here, any qpf was all north of Pontiac. As minor as these dustings are, going out on a Sunday morning, crisp 28F, gray skies and fresh powder dusting everything really feels like WINTER moreso than damp slushy snow that is more typical of November (though lately any snow in Nov has been a bonus). Both today (0.3") and Friday (0.1") were snowfalls that were basically only expected to be a few scattered flurries. Hopefully a sign of many good busts to come this winter lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I want to see a picture of that. Well thats not literally true, but I know what he means. When you look out the window, you see a coal-gray sky, bright white rooftops and bright white pavement and the still-dark color of the grass that makes for a visual contrast. The powder is fine so it settles in the grass (whereas wet snow that more coats/sits on top of the grass when it first falls). One of those snows where an inch of fine powder you would still lots of grass-tips but an inch of wet snow the naked eye would see more of a solid blanket. Does this make sense? WOW did I overanalyze a 0.3" snow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Just measured 4" here in central MI, wayyy more than expected, was only expecting about an inch! This was a nice b-day present for me since my b-day is tomorrow Well that should be fun to drive back to today. Dusting to Half inch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wow... Just woke up to a winter wonder land..... A nice 1 inch of cement snow that has plastered everything. EDIT: Not really cement snow upon closer inspection. A decent powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wow... Just woke up to a winter wonder land..... A nice 1 inch of cement snow that has plastered everything. EDIT: Not really cement snow upon closer inspection. A decent powder. Wow....and keep in mind models had NOTHING south of PTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wow....and keep in mind models had NOTHING south of PTK Yeah I'd say just eyeballing it, probably have 0.5-0.75" here in Eastpointe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Nice pics dmc! Im jealous as usual of northern Oakland county. You guys almost ALWAYS win in the early and late season events. iwx, maybe a pic of the snowboard will give you an idea of what i mean where the snow looks less impressive on the grass lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Nice to see a dusting, but I'd say the models definitely had this: Hi Res: 18z NAM yesterday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Nice to see a dusting, but I'd say the models definitely had this: Hi Res: 18z NAM yesterday: Wow that hi-res model nailed it. I forgot about those 48-hr hi-res models, lost the bookmark will have to re-add it for the winter. I missed the 18z nam. Everytime i checked the models the qpf line rested just north of the Canada pinky (ie Lake St Clair). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 And the final verdict? Torch! Boring weather notwithstanding....I have to bump this. CFS November torch = massive FAIL for the Lake/Northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 24 here this morning. Looks like we'll finish Nov with 1.20" of rain/ 0.3" snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Had a thin dusting on the deck and cars this morning. Just shy of 0.1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It's been quite some time since most of the major climate stations saw an inch of snow. I think DTW and ORD both saw their last inch of snow on Feb 24, or 9 months ago (274 days). Anyone know what the record between last inch and first inch are? Good question...I don't know the answer, but I imagine they must be getting close to the record, if they haven't set it already. Actually for Detroit, its not even close yet. I counted the days as the amount of days WITHOUT a 1"+ snowfall. So, for instance, for the record year, March 3, 1936 was the last 1"+ snowfall of the 1935-36 season, and Jan 21, 1937 was the first 1"+ snowfall of the 1936-37 season, so the 323 days without a 1"+ snowfall would be Mar 4-Jan 20. Note that 2nd place came during the BRUTAL 1981-82 winter! 323 days - Mar 3, 1936 – Jan 21, 1937 309 days - Feb 10, 1981 – Dec 17, 1981 306 days - Feb 26, 1939 – Dec 30, 1939 297 days - Feb 26, 1946 – Dec 21, 1946 291 days - Feb 12, 1905 – Dec 1, 1905 291 days - Mar 2, 1948 – Dec 19, 1948 288 days - Feb 26, 2010 – Dec 12, 2010 287 days - Feb 28, 1945 – Dec 13, 1945 280 days - Jan 30, 1953 – Nov 7, 1953 276 days - Feb 22, 1908 - Dec 6, 1908 Note: DTX had previously reported that the latest first 1"+ snow was Feb 17, 1919. If that had been correct then the record would be 344 days, as March 9, 1918 would be the last 1"+ snow til Feb 17, 1919. However, upon further review...1.0" fell on Dec 3, 1918. So just BARELY that allowed that to not be the record by literally the smallest margin. Fwiw, Dec 3, 1918 had a hi/lo of 38/31 with 0.19" pcp and 1.0" snow. The snow fell in the morning and only a T was on the ground at the 8pm snow depth obs so it was certainly arguably a period of no meaningful snowfall from Mar 9, 1918 til Feb 17, 1919. We are at 275 days and counting so far in 2012. For DTW to break the 323-day record, the first 1"+ snowfall would have to hold off until Jan 14th or later . The 2012-13 snow seasons first flakes were Oct 29 (avg Nov 1st) and first measurable snow Nov 23 (avg Nov 17) so that is right around climo. The avg first 1"+ snow is Nov 30th (avg first 3"+ snow Dec 30th). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Actually for Detroit, its not even close yet. I counted the days as the amount of days WITHOUT a 1"+ snowfall. So, for instance, for the record year, March 3, 1936 was the last 1"+ snowfall of the 1935-36 season, and Jan 21, 1937 was the first 1"+ snowfall of the 1936-37 season, so the 323 days without a 1"+ snowfall would be Mar 4-Jan 20. Note that 2nd place came during the BRUTAL 1981-82 winter! 323 days - Mar 3, 1936 – Jan 21, 1937 309 days - Feb 10, 1981 – Dec 17, 1981 306 days - Feb 26, 1939 – Dec 30, 1939 297 days - Feb 26, 1946 – Dec 21, 1946 291 days - Feb 12, 1905 – Dec 1, 1905 291 days - Mar 2, 1948 – Dec 19, 1948 288 days - Feb 26, 2010 – Dec 12, 2010 287 days - Feb 28, 1945 – Dec 13, 1945 280 days - Jan 30, 1953 – Nov 7, 1953 276 days - Feb 22, 1908 - Dec 6, 1908 Note: DTX had previously reported that the latest first 1"+ snow was Feb 17, 1919. If that had been correct then the record would be 344 days, as March 9, 1918 would be the last 1"+ snow til Feb 17, 1919. However, upon further review...1.0" fell on Dec 3, 1918. So just BARELY that allowed that to not be the record by literally the smallest margin. Fwiw, Dec 3, 1918 had a hi/lo of 38/31 with 0.19" pcp and 1.0" snow. The snow fell in the morning and only a T was on the ground at the 8pm snow depth obs so it was certainly arguably a period of no meaningful snowfall from Mar 9, 1918 til Feb 17, 1919. We are at 275 days and counting so far in 2012. For DTW to break the 323-day record, the first 1"+ snowfall would have to hold off until Jan 14th or later . The 2012-13 snow seasons first flakes were Oct 29 (avg Nov 1st) and first measurable snow Nov 23 (avg Nov 17) so that is right around climo. The avg first 1"+ snow is Nov 30th (avg first 3"+ snow Dec 30th). good work I knew you would come to the rescue It's very possible DTW could climb into the top 5. If the EURO Long range verifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wow & lol at the snow gradient across the region. Areas north of the city seem to have an average .5 - 1.5 inches. Then once you cross 7 mile road in the City of Detroit it seems that there is almost NO snow. This observed on my way to church in downtown Detroit this morning. Gotta love the higher elevations around the city and the 3 notable "snow belts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I measured anywhere from one to two and a half inches, but the most accurate measurement to me was about one and a half. Will upload pics when I get back to snowless Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geos Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I measured anywhere from one to two and a half inches, but the most accurate measurement to me was about one and a half. Will upload pics when I get back to snowless Milwaukee. Thanks for the report from Door County! Look forward to the pictures. Cool pictures hm8 and dmc. Just a partly cloudy, but crisp night - last night. Noticing the LES machine going off Erie and Ontario this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Congrats to Michiganders on their 'surprise' snowfall. Josh, I knew what he meant and your snowboard pictures bear that out. The snow didn't actually melt in the grassy areas, it just settled as to not be as visible. I remember someone last year claiming that the snow melted except on the pavement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I suppose the next slight threat to watch out for is Friday. Appears to be a stripe of moderate snows from Wisconsin through Central Michigan that have been indicated for a few runs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 good work I knew you would come to the rescue It's very possible DTW could climb into the top 5. If the EURO Long range verifies Certainly it's possible...but that would mean 16 more days without a 1"+ snow. You can make records/stats for almost anything, I didnt have this "time between 1-inch snow stats" thing or even thought about it til Trent mentioned it. And you always see something that makes you go wow. Like everything else in the weather, it doesnt tell the tale of anything other than simply period of time between snowfalls of at least 1"+. For instance, since Detroit just BARELY squeezed out a slushy inch on 12-3-1918, that year DOESNT EVEN SHOW UP on this list I just made. But picture this....after a pretty harsh, cold, snowy Jan to mid-Feb 1918, the snow was torched away completely Feb 19, 1918. A 3-inch slushy snow fell on March 9th, but it was also followed by rain so it only lasted on the ground less than 2 days. This was more-or-less it for the winter (a few other dustings). Then just a FEW coatings (and the above-mentioned brief slushy inch on Dec 3rd) in Dec-Jan 1918-19, until finally a grass-covering 1.8" fell on Feb 17, 1919. In that ONE YEARS time from mid-Feb to mid-Feb just 6 days had snow on the ground (4 of them 1", 2 of them 2"). And thats a year that didnt even make the list for time between 1-inch snows. But the 2nd place, Feb 10, 1981 - Dec 17, 1981....that DID make the list. Feb 10th was an 8.1" snowstorm, so thats like a 1"+++++++ snowfall.....and the 1.5" that fell on Dec 17, 1981 unleased ma natures fury on what would be from then on out a brutally cold, snowy 1981-82 winter. Which scenario would I pick? 1981-82 any day. Sorry for rambling lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wow & lol at the snow gradient across the region. Areas north of the city seem to have an average .5 - 1.5 inches. Then once you cross 7 mile road in the City of Detroit it seems that there is almost NO snow. This observed on my way to church in downtown Detroit this morning. Gotta love the higher elevations around the city and the 3 notable "snow belts". I imagine Detroit had similar to me - 0.3". It has all melted now. As was mentioned above, it was odd in that to the naked eye you noticed it alot more on the pavement than the grass (see my snowboard pic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Likely to to end November here with 1.80" of rain and not even one flake of snow. It really is amazing how rare snow has become around here in November. Our last >trace November snow was four years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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