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November 2012 General Discussion


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Mild night with light south winds and increasing cloudiness, 39 °F. Coldest temps in the Kettle Moraine, Burlington down to 25 °F.

Cat 1 is practicing his hunting skills and pounced on my face cause I think he wanted some fancy feast, hopefully he'll wake me up during interesting weather events and not just boring nights.

Turtle---

Staying in Wisconsin for T day? Looks like the temps may not be much different.

Yup, too much of a schlep to go to Florida for Thanksgiving, will probably use that card during winter break.

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Yes, happy birthday to Chicago Storm!

I am back in Geneva from State College, Pennsylvania, for Thanksgiving break. Quite a frosty morning today (and yesterday, as well). It got down to 22 here, which is the coldest temperature I have personally experienced yet this cold season. The cold, crisp mornings of fall that are common here in the Midwest just are not as frequent in State College because it is so often cloudy there this time of year.

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Days upon days of no worse than partly cloudy skies. This is supposedly the stormiest month of the year, right?

With the exception of October, I wouldn't use storminess to describe any of our weather since at least the end of last Spring.

It's been A WHILE since we had such a long period of nothingness.

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Not for here. I guess the only way I can quantify it is by using precipitation normals by month, and Nov is the 6th wettest month for LAF.

David Phillips, who's a respected climatologist up here once said in an interview that November was the "stormiest" month of the year in the Great Lakes region. Now, I suppose "stormiest" doesn't necessarily have to equal "wettest". He might be using mean barometric pressure to back up his claim. I'm not sure. But it always rang true to me, remembering that monster during the middle of November 1998, then Katrina in 1999. There have been other slightly lesser examples since.

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David Phillips, who's a respected climatologist up here once said in an interview that November was the "stormiest" month of the year in the Great Lakes region. Now, I suppose "stormiest" doesn't necessarily have to equal "wettest". He might be using mean barometric pressure to back up his claim. I'm not sure. But it always rang true to me, remembering that monster during the middle of November 1998, then Katrina in 1999. There have been other slightly lesser examples since.

Hey Mike did you see the 6z GFS for day 10?

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David Phillips, who's a respected climatologist up here once said in an interview that November was the "stormiest" month of the year in the Great Lakes region. Now, I suppose "stormiest" doesn't necessarily have to equal "wettest". He might be using mean barometric pressure to back up his claim. I'm not sure. But it always rang true to me, remembering that monster during the middle of November 1998, then Katrina in 1999. There have been other slightly lesser examples since.

Gotcha. I was curious and searched for average barometric pressure by month and couldn't find a damn thing, other than some data for a few western U.S. locations. In AK anyway, November had the lowest average...but the data didn't go that far back.

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I have to share how foggy it was this morning at work, we were officially down to 0SM

KDTW 181253Z 02004KT 0SM R04R/0600V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1/16 SLP347 T00440039

KDTW 181153Z 03004KT 0SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2 SLP345 60000 T00440039 10044 20017 52003

KDTW 181117Z 03003KT 0SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2

KDTW 181053Z 00000KT 1/16SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/03 A3054 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 1/4 SLP345 T00440033

2012-11-18_073536.jpg

About a mile out that window is the main control tower and you would have never known that it was there with how foggy it is.

Btw Happy Birthday Chi Storm.

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Was just looking back through Indy's snowfall records, and thought it was interesting how a few Novembers that were decent turned into duds of a season. I used 2.5" or more for November as decent, because it is for Indianapolis. 1931-32 and 1997-98 were especially awful after November. 1932-33 would've been a cruel tease...it is still Indy's snowiest Nov on record.

Season: Oct....Nov....Dec....Jan....Feb....Mar.....Apr....Total

1887-88: 0.0"...2.8"...2.6"...2.0"...1.1"...3.3"...0.0"...11.8"

1899-00: 0.0"...4.5"...6.9"...1.2"...2.0"...0.6"...0.3"...15.5"

1920-21: 0.0"...2.6"...5.6"...4.9"...3.9"...0.1"...0.2"...17.3"

1921-22: 0.0"...3.8"...4.3"...2.9"...0.8"...1.2"...0.0"...13.0"

1930-31: 0.0"...3.2"...2.9"...1.5"...0.0"...6.8"...0.0"...14.4"

1931-32: 0.0"...2.9"...0.0"...0.2"...0.0"...2.0"...0.8"...5.9"

1932-33: 0.0"...9.8"...2.8"...0.1"...2.6"...2.7"...0.0"...18.0"

1937-38: 0.0"...2.6"...5.7"...2.2"...2.0"...0.0"...1.6"...14.1"

1951-52: 0.0"...4.0"...6.8"...0.7"...2.1"...2.0"...0.1"...15.7"

1953-54: 0.0"...3.9"...4.2"...5.7"...1.6"...1.4"...0.0"...16.8"

1956-57: 0.0"...2.7"...3.2"...7.6"...1.1"...0.0"...3.7"...18.3"

1980-81: 0.0"...3.4"...2.1"...3.9"...7.2"...0.7"...0.0"...17.3"

1991-92: 0.0"...3.0"...0.2"...7.1"...0.2"...2.9"...1.3"...14.7"

1997-98: 0.0"...5.8"...2.5"...0.8"...0.6"...0.7"...0.0"...10.4"

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David Phillips, who's a respected climatologist up here once said in an interview that November was the "stormiest" month of the year in the Great Lakes region. Now, I suppose "stormiest" doesn't necessarily have to equal "wettest". He might be using mean barometric pressure to back up his claim. I'm not sure. But it always rang true to me, remembering that monster during the middle of November 1998, then Katrina in 1999. There have been other slightly lesser examples since.

November has had some memorable storms over the years (Fitz, 1950, Armistice Day are a few you didn't mention) but I think it's also more prone to what many of us consider boring. Not a consistently snowy month for most areas and any tstorm/severe threats are usually a one and done type thing, unlike spring/summer where it's not uncommon to string together multiple threat days in a row in the same location.

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I have to share how foggy it was this morning at work, we were officially down to 0SM

KDTW 181253Z 02004KT 0SM R04R/0600V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1/16 SLP347 T00440039

KDTW 181153Z 03004KT 0SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2 SLP345 60000 T00440039 10044 20017 52003

KDTW 181117Z 03003KT 0SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/04 A3054 RMK AO2

KDTW 181053Z 00000KT 1/16SM R04R/0700V0800FT FG VV001 04/03 A3054 RMK AO2 TWR VIS 1/4 SLP345 T00440033

2012-11-18_073536.jpg

About a mile out that window is the main control tower and you would have never known that it was there with how foggy it is.

Btw Happy Birthday Chi Storm.

Nice.

I wasn't outside last night but I had a couple of friends who drove to the house describe it as "foggy as ****". So I guess that holds water. KARB made it down to .15 mile vis.

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Gross weather. couldn't even hang our opening morning deer until Tuesday afternoon because of temps not even getting below freezing and daytime temps plus 15 and 50's in NW Wisconsin going forward for days. So sick of fall weather cocking over the program. ****ing smelled like spring when we left this morning. smh.

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Gross weather. couldn't even hang our opening morning deer until Tuesday afternoon because of temps not even getting below freezing and daytime temps plus 15 and 50's in NW Wisconsin going forward for days. So sick of fall weather cocking over the program. ****ing smelled like spring when we left this morning. smh.

Not that it's much solace, but at least winter makes a brief entry or reentry late next week into the weekend; nearly -12 850s depicted by some models in N Wisconsin and near Door County where I will be from Friday to Sunday. Looks like the temps will be steady in the 30s much of the time, maybe a day with highs in the 40s.

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Not that it's much solace, but at least winter makes a brief entry or reentry late next week into the weekend; nearly -12 850s depicted by some models in N Wisconsin and near Door County where I will be from Friday to Sunday. Looks like the temps will be steady in the 30s much of the time, maybe a day with highs in the 40s.

Could you pick a worse time to go to door county? looks cold and dry... Hopefully it torches and you can prance around in the warm waters.

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