nwburbschaser Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Some very dense fog here in the NW Suburbs. Can't remember the last time that it was this foggy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Could use some more of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Some very dense fog here in the NW Suburbs. Can't remember the last time that it was this foggy out. Same here! Down to about 34°. This morning there was freezing patchy ground fog that coated various surfaces in a heavy frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 These gradient patterns tend to eventually yield nicely for this region. I would be concerned about ice storms this winter, something that this region hasn't had to experience in a while region wide. Sure every year we see some glaze, but I have not seen a really powerful ice storm here since the severe winter storm of Jan 30-Feb 1, 2002. That was 1.75" freezing rain AFTER 9.5" snow. (my area got freezing rain Apr 5, 2003, but it was more decorative, non-damaging icicles dangling from everything after temps finally fell below 32F, after we endured hours of 33F rain while much of SE MI was devastated). We were finally supposed to get a bad ice storm on Feb 20, 2011 but instead ended up with over 10 inches of snow, and believe me, I was NOT upset. I honestly cant even REMEMBER a pure ice storm. Would be cool to see, but honestly, I ALWAYS prefer snow, so Ill probably be grumpy if we actually do get one (assuming someone close by gets buried in snow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yeah they are good for New England too...2007-2008 and 2008-2009 were both gradient patterns, with '07-'08 being a sharper gradient. We had a horrible ice storm in Dec '08...I think later that same winter was the big one south of your guys in KY and southern IN/IL/MO. It will be interesting to see how it starts to shape out. The Euro SIPS was really hitting it hard with a big +NAO that extended way back to Hudson Bay to the point where it kept the northern tier cold. Especially since it did not have a hostile Pacific. Ridging in AK. The Euro weeklies certainly do not start off winter that way, but its only a couple weeks in December they show. But they have a -NAO...still ridging in the EPO region though, so it is still cold, but it just extends further south and east on the weeklies. 2007-08 is Detroits 4th snowiest (71.7") and 2008-09 Detroits 9th snowiest (65.7") winter on record. 2007-08 had several thaws that wiped out snowcover, but only for a few days before a new storm arrived. 2007-08 was a little stormier, 2008-09 a little colder. In the calendar year from February 1, 2008 to January 31, 2009, Detroit officially saw 94.0" of snow (mby 100.4"). Gradient ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This next entire week look beautiful for mid-late November, 50's with a slow but steady increase all the way through. Wow. I definitely will be enjoying it, but I dread the idea of another snowless winter. It probably wont have any effect in the long run, but it just feels so similar to how last winter began. Dont worry, the overall pattern, signs are nothing like 2011-12. Weve been in a colder than normal (and boring) pattern most of November, so a mild week is no surprise. Dont let this Novembers T of snow worry you. Last year, DTW had 0.6" in Nov (granted it was Nov 30th) en route to a puny total of 26.0". The year before DTW had a T in Nov en route to 69.1" (and plenty of cold, deep snowcover). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Sure every year we see some glaze, but I have not seen a really powerful ice storm here since the severe winter storm of Jan 30-Feb 1, 2002. That was 1.75" freezing rain AFTER 9.5" snow. (my area got freezing rain Apr 5, 2003, but it was more decorative, non-damaging icicles dangling from everything after temps finally fell below 32F, after we endured hours of 33F rain while much of SE MI was devastated). We were finally supposed to get a bad ice storm on Feb 20, 2011 but instead ended up with over 10 inches of snow, and believe me, I was NOT upset. I honestly cant even REMEMBER a pure ice storm. Would be cool to see, but honestly, I ALWAYS prefer snow, so Ill probably be grumpy if we actually do get one (assuming someone close by gets buried in snow). The April 03 ice storm was something else for the Northern suburbs. Personally since we don't see ice storms often I tend to like them a lot as it takes the right ingredients to make for a really good ice storm, plus the last few ice storms I have been in have had convection with them which adds another element to the mix. Whether or not someone gets buried close by doesn't bother me as long as I get exciting weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The April 03 ice storm was something else for the Northern suburbs. Personally since we don't see ice storms often I tend to like them a lot as it takes the right ingredients to make for a really good ice storm, plus the last few ice storms I have been in have had convection with them which adds another element to the mix. Whether or not someone gets buried close by doesn't bother me as long as I get exciting weather. I agree with what you said about watching the right ingredients and exciting weather, but the results suck. All of this talk about ice gives me the shivers. I wouldn't care if I never saw another ice storm locally. Now, I'd take a nice overrunning event any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 crazy amt of frost this morning ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yesterday was probably the first 100% clear blue sky day we had in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Another thing Detroit hasn't seen in a long time (besides a severe ice storm) is a good front-end thumping, where as it picks up say 4-6" of snow on the front-end then transitions completely to ice/rain for the remainder of the storm February 20, 2011 (President's Day storm) came close to being a front-end thumping, but instead it ended up being mostly/all snow. Groundhog's Day storm also came close, but the sleet that fell was fairly showery and it didn't have much of an impact on the snow totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Turtle--- Staying in Wisconsin for T day? Looks like the temps may not be much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Lots of frost here this morning from fog overnight. Looked like a dusting of snow this morning! Low 26°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Geos- It was thick as snot here.... melted off now and we've got good sun. Probably go to Menards, my second home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Another thing Detroit hasn't seen in a long time (besides a severe ice storm) is a good front-end thumping, where as it picks up say 4-6" of snow on the front-end then transitions completely to ice/rain for the remainder of the storm February 20, 2011 (President's Day storm) came close to being a front-end thumping, but instead it ended up being mostly/all snow. Groundhog's Day storm also came close, but the sleet that fell was fairly showery and it didn't have much of an impact on the snow totals. Yes, in the past we had many such storms but I cannot recall any (we seemed to get a ton of those in the '50s). I guess it would be the Jan 30-Feb 1, 2002 storm I spoke of, if you want to call a full day of snow a front-end thump . Really, as much as we all fear it, our area is not bad at all when it comes to snow to rain scenarios, that seems to be more of an east coast thing. We tend to get many more rain-to-snow scenarios than snow-to-rain scenarios, if any, but snow is our dominate p-type in all but the mildest of winters. In any winter storm where snow is safely not the only p-type, often we seem to get: A) All snow and some drizzle/dryslot as the L tracks overhead... predominately snow with some pellets thrown in, but not enough to mar the look of a snowstorm... C) all rain, once the cold air moves in the precip shuts off, and we then pick up some flakes from LES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Fells like Spring here in Fort Worth Texas. People around here are bundled up and look miserable. But when you ask them about Christmas time with no snow they all say they wish it could happen. We have it good north of the OH river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Up to 52 here after a low of 24...perfect fall day. Cold mornings giving us negative daily departures for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Lots of freezing lows here this autumn. In Madison for the day. Really nice out! People starting to put the Xmas lights up since its mild still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fickle Heights Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 0 hr KLAF sounding from today's 12z NAM. I can't recall seeing such calm winds over such a deep layer this far north, especially in mid-November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 :wub: :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Lots of freezing lows here this autumn. In Madison for the day. Really nice out! People starting to put the Xmas lights up since its mild still. Definitely a lively atmosphere around town today, not surprising given this awesome weather with highs in the low 50s. Clouds moving in though, hard to keep them away this time of the year, but at least I don't live in Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Perfect day for putting the sheathing on my shed... Had to wait about a month for more funds $$$ ... Back in business now... Hanging 1/2 plywood by myself is not fun. Can't beat the weather... had a pretty good south wind earlier, but it really let off this afternoon/evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Definitely a lively atmosphere around town today, not surprising given this awesome weather with highs in the low 50s. Clouds moving in though, hard to keep them away this time of the year, but at least I don't live in Michigan. The sun was out all day today in Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 need some snow here. hunter's are complaining. already 10-20" below in a 2-3 county area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Fells like Spring here in Fort Worth Texas. People around here are bundled up and look miserable. But when you ask them about Christmas time with no snow they all say they wish it could happen. We have it good north of the OH river. Yes we do! Is there any resemblance of Fall down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Definitely a lively atmosphere around town today, not surprising given this awesome weather with highs in the low 50s. Clouds moving in though, hard to keep them away this time of the year, but at least I don't live in Michigan. It was sunny in Michigan yesterday AND today. So take THAT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yes we do! Is there any resemblance of Fall down there? A touch... The oaks are yellowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Definitely a lively atmosphere around town today, not surprising given this awesome weather with highs in the low 50s. Clouds moving in though, hard to keep them away this time of the year, but at least I don't live in Michigan. Yes, quite lively. Downright busy in some areas. Was near Sauk City as well and took a few shots of the sunset tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 0 hr KLAF sounding from today's 12z NAM. I can't recall seeing such calm winds over such a deep layer this far north, especially in mid-November! This would be incredible even under a death ridge in the middle of summer. To have it happen in November of all months is astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Nice day. Sunny and 57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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