snowstormcanuck Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Cheers to IWXwx! I thought'd be too warm along the EC for the big cities to see snow when he first mentioned it. I was wrong, he was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 A balmy 23 degrees this morning. Coldest morning of the year so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 A balmy 23 degrees this morning. Coldest morning of the year so far Those are like the minimum temps we got last night in Wisconsin, sitting at a mild 41 °F this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 MEX has 69º for Sat and 68º for Sun for IND. NWS point and click highs of 70º and 66º, respectively. Just a FYI, top three warmest maximum temperatures for Indianapolis for both days. Nov 10: 75º in 1949...73º in 1999...73º in 1964 Nov 11: 76º in 1927...75º in 1949...74º in 2010* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Temperature departures for the first seven days of November in Indiana. Ice box FTW. LAF: -10.6º MIE: -9.8º BMG: -9.6º IND: -9.5º EYE: -9.4º GEZ: -8.9º SBN: -8.8º FWA: -8.7º IWX: -8.4º GSH: -8.3º HUF: -7.4º EVV: -7.2º Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Those are like the minimum temps we got last night in Wisconsin, sitting at a mild 41 °F this morning. Lets see if tomorrow morning at 7AM is at 41 here. BTW: previous post that I did before was for something else.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Powder is the best. Nothing explains winter post-storm than a foot of powder. Sorry, but nothing beats the fat sloppy flakes collapsing from the sky at 2"+ per hour rates (except thundersnow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Sorry, but nothing beats the fat sloppy flakes collapsing from the sky at 2"+ per hour rates (except thundersnow). That happens here? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 We are all snow deprived. It's an addict about to go off the wagon and excited about it. Fat flakes or powder I think any snow that exceeds 1" per hour is fine at this point. Personally I'm with powerball. Heavy wet snow is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We can't buy a decent November these days. The next 2 weeks look awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We are all snow deprived. It's an addict about to go off the wagon and excited about it. Fat flakes or powder I think any snow that exceeds 1" per hour is fine at this point. Personally I'm with powerball. Heavy wet snow is awesome. I would take a snowstorm with temps in the low teens any day. Example 2005 clipper. Winter at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Got down to 20F overnight which is the lowest temperature here since March 27, 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Pretty mild this morning around 40°. I like powdery snow quite a bit. It's easy for the wind to whip up into cool drifts, but I really like how wet snow clings to everything more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I love watching cement snow fall at 2+inch per hour rates, but am a fan of powder on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Sun back again today, not bad...little more wind too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We can't buy a decent November these days. The next 2 weeks look awful. def had a few clunkers here lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I don't mind that wintry type weather has mostly held off here so far and for the near future. Here's an interesting thought. If you averaged 45" per season, would you prefer that your 45" of snow came in storms spread from Nov 1-Apr 15 or instead from storms spread Dec 10-Feb 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I don't mind that wintry type weather has mostly held off here so far and for the near future. Here's an interesting thought. If you averaged 45" per season, would you prefer that your 45" of snow came in storms spread from Nov 1-Apr 15 or instead from storms spread Dec 10-Feb 20? Hmm, pondering type of question! I think I would take all that snow in a shorter time! Better chance you'd have a continuous snow pack or at least many more days with snow on the ground to look at! ...Clouds not going away today! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I don't mind that wintry type weather has mostly held off here so far and for the near future. Here's an interesting thought. If you averaged 45" per season, would you prefer that your 45" of snow came in storms spread from Nov 1-Apr 15 or instead from storms spread Dec 10-Feb 20? Dec 10th- Feb 20th. That means more snowstorms of 8"+ potentially and the snow will likely stick around. Early season and late season snows are meh. More of a stat padding thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We can't buy a decent November these days. The next 2 weeks look awful. I don't mind that wintry type weather has mostly held off here so far and for the near future. Here's an interesting thought. If you averaged 45" per season, would you prefer that your 45" of snow came in storms spread from Nov 1-Apr 15 or instead from storms spread Dec 10-Feb 20? It was one of the last posts on the last page, so I will repost here (in case you missed it ). This does not necessarily speak for the entire region, I merely am looking at SE MI....but the evolution of November & seasonal snowfall here has slowly morphed into an interesting trend. LONGTERM average, if you use Detroits entire 130+ year period of record, for November snowfall is approximately 3", with a season average of approximately 41". The 1981-2010 avg Nov snowfall (1.4") cuts that in HALF, while the avg seasonal snowfall (43.8") is about 3" MORE. And looking at the past 10 years, the separation is further increasing (though if the end result is the same, I will happily take a decrease of November flakes and an increase of rest-of-the-season snow!) Last 10 winters....Nov snow & season snow at DTW: 2002-03: Nov- 1.6"....Season- 60.9" 2003-04: Nov- 0.4"....Season- 24.1" 2004-05: Nov- 0.1"....Season- 63.8" 2005-06: Nov- 4.3"....Season- 36.3" 2006-07: Nov- 0.1"....Season- 30.3" 2007-08: Nov- 0.5"....Season- 71.7" 2008-09: Nov- 2.2"....Season- 65.7" 2009-10: Nov- 0........Season- 43.7" 2010-11: Nov- T.........Season- 69.1" 2011-12: Nov- 0.6"....Season- 26.0" 10-yr avg: Nov- 1.0"...Season- 49.2" MBY past 10 years...(dtws numbers 2003-05 were suspiciously low) 2002-03: Nov- 3.5"....Season- 66.9" 2003-04: Nov- 0.7"....Season- 36.6" 2004-05: Nov- 0.7"....Season- 80.7" 2005-06: Nov- 4.8"....Season- 41.9" 2006-07: Nov- 0.3"....Season- 36.3" 2007-08: Nov- 0.7"....Season- 78.2" 2008-09: Nov- 1.9"....Season- 64.8" 2009-10: Nov- T........Season- 46.1" 2010-11: Nov- T.........Season- 69.4" 2011-12: Nov- 0.6"....Season- 25.5" 10-yr avg: Nov- 1.3"...Season- 54.6" LASTLY...a little history of Detroits Nov - seasonal snowfall averages..look at the futile 1930s-50s, Novembers werent bad at all! 1880s: Nov- 1.9"....Season- 47.3" 1890s: Nov- 3.9"....Season- 42.7" 1900s: Nov- 1.9"....Season- 46.3" 1910s: Nov- 1.6"....Season- 39.7" 1920s: Nov- 3.4"....Season- 46.1" 1930s: Nov- 3.0"....Season- 32.9" 1940s: Nov- 2.6"....Season- 27.6" 1950s: Nov- 4.7"....Season- 37.2" ***snowiest decade for Novembers*** 1960s: Nov- 2.1"....Season- 31.8" 1970s: Nov- 4.5"....Season- 45.6" 1980s: Nov- 2.3"....Season- 45.2"' 1990s: Nov- 1.5"....Season- 37.3" 2000s: Nov- 1.1"....Season- 45.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 We are all snow deprived. It's an addict about to go off the wagon and excited about it. Fat flakes or powder I think any snow that exceeds 1" per hour is fine at this point. Personally I'm with powerball. Heavy wet snow is awesome. My rule of thumb is, any snow is better than no snow. Period. I dont care what the situation is, nuisance, stat padding, whatever. Last winter whenever we had a snow that melted quickly (which was often) i would hear comments like, whats the point, better to not have snowed at all. It was the great lakes version of a typical east coast winter (minus the big snow)...it didnt last. Now, you are talking to the KING of snowcover here, but I would still take ANY snow over NO snow. I remember the April 5, 2009 snow, the snow was coming down like silver dollars but it was so slushy we had a storm total of 4.6" here (much more to my NW) and could never achieve great rates (we maxed at like an inch an hour despite liquid totals of 0.25/hr a few hours). Jan 1, 2008 the NW burbs had 4"/hr rates with those same silver dollars, so perhaps time of year meant something. The Feb 20, 2011 snowstorm had several hours of 2"/hr rates, and that was with medium-sized flakes, and the Feb 11, 2012 arctic front was just a wall of white, didnt even notice flakes, but it had 1-2"/hr rates. So basically, all snowfalls are different. All situations are different. I have my preferences, but give me anything! LONG LIVE WINTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 November total average snowfall per decade (monthly totals in chronological order) for Chicago, since 1884. All 0.0"'s had trace amounts, except for 1999, 2001, 2009, and 2010. 1880's: 1.4" (0.5", 0.7", 2.6", 2.5", 0.5", 1.3") 1890's: 3.8" (0.0", 6.8", 0.8", 7.5", 2.5", 14.5", 4.2", 0.0", 1.8", 0.0") 1900's: 1.1" (1.1", 0.1", 0.5", 2.2", 0.0", 0.0", 2.8", 3.0", 0.9", 0.0") 1910's: 0.6" (1.2", 1.2", 0.4", 0.0", 0.0", 0.7", 0.1", 1.5", 0.5", 0.6") 1920's: 1.5" (1.3", 1.6", 0.2", 0.0", 1.0", 2.3", 3.9", 4.9", 0.0", 0.1") 1930's: 0.8" (1.7", 0.2", 0.6", 1.4", 0.0", 0.5", 0.6", 2.7", 0.2", 0.4") 1940's: 3.5" (14.8", 5.2", 4.3", 0.2", 1.0", 0.7", 0.0", 6.2", 0.0", 2.6") 1950's: 5.0" (7.0", 14.3", 0.0", 7.6", 5.7", 5.9", 1.5", 0.5", 0.7", 6.6") 1960's: 1.1" (0.7", 1.6", 0.4", 0.0", 0.8", 0.0", 1.5", 1.2", 0.8", 3.8") 1970's: 3.9" (0.3", 1.2", 5.5", 0.0", 5.1", 10.8", 0.8", 6.3", 7.1", 2.1") 1980's: 2.1" (5.1", 3.6", 0.4", 1.0", 0.0", 1.1", 3.8", 1.0", 0.9", 3.9") 1990's: 1.4" (0.0", 1.2", 0.2", 0.2", 0.0", 3.9", 4.8", 3.3", 0.2", 0.0") 2000's: 1.3" (0.1", 0.0", 4.7", 0.0", 5.1", 1.9", 0.4", 0.3", 0.6", 0.0") 2010's: 0.0" (0.0", 0.0") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 November total average snowfall per decade (monthly totals in chronological order) for Chicago, since 1884. All 0.0"'s had trace amounts, except for 1999, 2001, 2009, and 2010. 1880's: 1.4" (0.5", 0.7", 2.6", 2.5", 0.5", 1.3") 1890's: 3.8" (0.0", 6.8", 0.8", 7.5", 2.5", 14.5", 4.2", 0.0", 1.8", 0.0") 1900's: 1.1" (1.1", 0.1", 0.5", 2.2", 0.0", 0.0", 2.8", 3.0", 0.9", 0.0") 1910's: 0.6" (1.2", 1.2", 0.4", 0.0", 0.0", 0.7", 0.1", 1.5", 0.5", 0.6") 1920's: 1.5" (1.3", 1.6", 0.2", 0.0", 1.0", 2.3", 3.9", 4.9", 0.0", 0.1") 1930's: 0.8" (1.7", 0.2", 0.6", 1.4", 0.0", 0.5", 0.6", 2.7", 0.2", 0.4") 1940's: 3.5" (14.8", 5.2", 4.3", 0.2", 1.0", 0.7", 0.0", 6.2", 0.0", 2.6") 1950's: 5.0" (7.0", 14.3", 0.0", 7.6", 5.7", 5.9", 1.5", 0.5", 0.7", 6.6") 1960's: 1.1" (0.7", 1.6", 0.4", 0.0", 0.8", 0.0", 1.5", 1.2", 0.8", 3.8") 1970's: 3.9" (0.3", 1.2", 5.5", 0.0", 5.1", 10.8", 0.8", 6.3", 7.1", 2.1") 1980's: 2.1" (5.1", 3.6", 0.4", 1.0", 0.0", 1.1", 3.8", 1.0", 0.9", 3.9") 1990's: 1.4" (0.0", 1.2", 0.2", 0.2", 0.0", 3.9", 4.8", 3.3", 0.2", 0.0") 2000's: 1.3" (0.1", 0.0", 4.7", 0.0", 5.1", 1.9", 0.4", 0.3", 0.6", 0.0") 2010's: 0.0" (0.0", 0.0") Love the data! Of course I had to do the same for Detroit. I did "T" for trace and "0" for zero (zero only happened three times, in 1998, 2001, 2009. Detroit November snow, since 1880 1880's: 1.9" (7.7", 0.2", 3.5”, 0.5", 3.4", 0.5", 0.6”, 0.3”, 0.9”, 1.0”) 1890's: 3.9" (2.5", 6.8", 6.6", 2.7", 6.9", 4.5”, T, 0.4", 8.9", T) 1900's: 1.9" (6.2", T, 5.1", 2.3", 0.8", 0.3", 1.2", 2.5”, 0.3", 0.3") 1910's: 1.6" (2.3", 7.0", 0.1", 3.6", 0.7", 0.7", 0.5", 0.9”, T, 0.5") 1920's: 3.4" (5.4", 8.3", 1.4", 0.3", 1.0", 7.8", 3.4", 3.8”, 1.0", 1.4") 1930's: 3.0" (3.1", 0.7", 10.1", 10.5", T, 0.2", 2.0", 1.0”, 2.7", T) 1940's: 2.6" (9.1", 0.5", 4.4", 3.1", T, 0.1", 0.3", 3.1", T, 5.5") 1950's: 4.7" (9.2", 8.3” T, 3.0", 0.7", 4.8", 6.7", 1.7", 4.5", 8.1") 1960's: 2.1" (1.0", T, 0.2", T, 2.6", 0.2", 11.8", 1.4", T, 3.9”) 1970's: 4.5" (1.7", 4.2", 7.1", 0.1", 7.7", 6.5”, 1.4", 7.4", 6.1", 3.2") 1980's: 2.3" (3.4”, 0.7", 1.8", 3.5", 4.1", 2.0", 3.3", 0.7", 1.0", 2.4") 1990's: 1.5" (T, 2.2", 0.9", 0.6", T, 1.3", 5.0", 4.6", 0, T) 2000's: 1.1" (1.3", 0, 1.6", 0.4", 0.1”, 4.3", 0.1", 0.5", 2.2", 0) 2010's: 0.3" (T, 0.6"....8 yrs to go) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 That happens here? LOL 2007-2008 featured several of these types of storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Pretty impressive wind fields on the 00z GFS for later Sunday (60-70 kts at 925 mb). It shouldn't be able to mix down though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It looks like our streak of neither the high nor low temperatures exceeding normal will come to an end today at 13 straight. The last day FWA was warmer than normal was 10/26 when it was 64/40 with a normal of 60/39. (They did match the normal low of 38 on the 10/31) The November departure now stand at -8.4°. I want to see this in Dec.- Feb., not in early November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Coldest start, or first 8 days, to November in Indianapolis since 1995. Nov 1-8, 2012: 39.0º Nov 1-8, 1995: 37.9º How both of those months got there was entirely different though. Roller coaster in Nov 1995, steady as she goes in 2012. Daily max/min for each month, 1995 first and 2012 second. Nov 1: 67/51...54/29 Nov 2: 70/38...51/33 Nov 3: 38/26...41/33 Nov 4: 33/21...45/30 Nov 5: 31/18...46/25 Nov 6: 50/24...49/28 Nov 7: 52/32...50/35 Nov 8: 35/21...48/27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Coldest start, or first 8 days, to November in Indianapolis since 1995. Nov 1-8, 2012: 39.0º Nov 1-8, 1995: 37.9º How both of those months got there was entirely different though. Roller coaster in Nov 1995, steady as she goes in 2012. Daily max/min for each month, 1995 first and 2012 second. Nov 1: 67/51...54/29 Nov 2: 70/38...51/33 Nov 3: 38/26...41/33 Nov 4: 33/21...45/30 Nov 5: 31/18...46/25 Nov 6: 50/24...49/28 Nov 7: 52/32...50/35 Nov 8: 35/21...48/27 A sign of things to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I don't know about any of you guys but I am really starting to get worried about this winter. I don't think it's going to be last year but I think winter will be milder with below average snowfall. Call me a pessimist but I'm thinking this subforum region won't have much if any snow before Jan 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 A sign of things to come? 1995-96 redux? Probably not. Would be pretty fun for a few in this sub-forum though, if it happened again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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