CAD Addict Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yeah, radar is looking less than stellar right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 27" in Beckley WV. 18" in Bluefield. 14" in Charleston, WV. The WV turnpike is a mess I assure you. Not sure you can say snow totals underperformed in WV if you have 27" in Beckley and its still snowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelhillwx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Here are a couple pics from my little snow chase. Mars Hill, NC -- Pouring down snow, temp 34, not quite sticking! Then we drove to near Wolf Laurel, NC. Like 3 miles from the border. By this time it was 30 degrees or so and extremely windy with heavy small flakes that looked almost like fog. Amazing what 6 or 7 miles up the Interstate can do. Hard to tell in the picture but it was snowing pretty hard! I almost spun off the road here and I had AWD so it was time to turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 27" in Beckley WV. 18" in Bluefield. 14" in Charleston, WV. The WV turnpike is a mess I assure you. Not sure you can say snow totals underperformed in WV if you have 27" in Beckley and its still snowing! Wow...LOL that is not an underperformer. I was just looking at the radar up there and was not impressed with the presentation as I thought much heavier returns would wrap further south by now. We shall see in NC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Not sticking here at work but snow very heavily. Up above 2500 feet plus snow is starting to stick to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD Addict Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 80+ mph gusts at Grandfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Wow...LOL that is not an underperformer. I was just looking at the radar up there and was not impressed with the presentation as I thought much heavier returns would wrap further south by now. We shall see in NC.... Hey folks, I spoke too soon. I was pulling reports from the news tonight and I think the amounts I show are the FORECAST amounts. Not actual amounts. Sorry for the confusion. I'll go pull actuals now and to Motoweatherman's credit, he is probably right that the storm has underperformed with snow totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 27" in Beckley WV. 18" in Bluefield. 14" in Charleston, WV. The WV turnpike is a mess I assure you. Not sure you can say snow totals underperformed in WV if you have 27" in Beckley and its still snowing! Where are you seeing these totals? Here's what I see from Charleston, WV NWS: Beckley - 3 in, 800PM, Airport The two highest totals I see are: Snowshoe - 7 in, 730PM, CO-OP Observer Bowden (4 mi ENE) - 14 in, Trained Spotter The heaviest snow moves through West Virginia through the night tonight, but continues through late Tuesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I had major concerns that Manhattan (Lower in particular) would deal with massive flooding, but I didn't expect it to reach as far into the interior as it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Hey folks, I spoke too soon. I was pulling reports from the news tonight and I think the amounts I show are the FORECAST amounts. Not actual amounts. Sorry for the confusion. I'll go pull actuals now and to Motoweatherman's credit, he is probably right that the storm has underperformed with snow totals. Yes you are right it's the forecast totals!!! I saw same thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 My opinion is it is to early to say this storm has underperformed. I think tonight through Tuesday night is when they are really calling for accumulating snows to really set in. Still snowing hard here but still a ways to in this storm I think. I could be wrong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yes you are right it's the forecast totals!!! I saw same thing.. So many data points coming in tonight. Just crazy trying to keep up with social media feeds, tv and internet updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSNOW Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 One good thing about Sandy, Sugar Mtn will be open on Halloween Day: Currently 23 up top and 25 at the base with the snow guns on and natural fallen from sky. Sugar Mountain Ski Resort plans to open on Halloween, Wednesday, October 31 for skiing and snowboarding. In its 43 year history, Sugar Mountain Resort’s earliest opening was on November 5th in 1976. The mega storm, Sandy, which continues to pound the East Coast is ushering in winter in the North Carolina Mountains. Several inches of natural snow have fallen already with eight inches plus expected. Snow continues to fall while temperatures are forecasted to remain in the low to mid-twenties through Wednesday. Snowmaking began Sunday evening, October 28th and continues around the clock. On Wednesday, skiers and snowboarders can expect a natural and manmade powder surface covering the Upper and Lower Flying Mile slopes. The Summit #1 Lift will be in operation to the ¾’s station. For a real time look at the slopes through the live, streaming web cam please log on to www.skisugar.com/sugarlive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Wow...LOL that is not an underperformer. I was just looking at the radar up there and was not impressed with the presentation as I thought much heavier returns would wrap further south by now. We shall see in NC.... 2 inches in Boone...4-5 inches in Ashe County at 4,000ft....3 hours ago. I think this has always been a elevation storm. I don't see reports for elevations higher than that, that were really suppose to get dumped on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD Addict Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 2" is generous for Boone. On a different note, Blacksburg has been really conservative with snow totals for days now. Oddly enough, even with the radar not looking so hot at the moment, they're now talking about 4-8" tonight and more tomorrow. Gotta wonder what they see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwagner88 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Tomorrow morning we will get an update from LeConte. They already had 7.5 inches this morning, I'll be surprised if they don't have 20" on the ground tomorrow morning. Looks like they have gotten strong flow snows all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I complained to NWS Blackburg about their snowfall maps on Facebook...and they changed! Well what they are posting not sure if they had to do anything...Much easier to read! Hopefully they stick to the new layout. OLD NEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 just listened to a met say the storm would basically stall over central PA or Northern VA for the next 48 hours or so. I haven't really paid attention to any models today on the next 2-4 days. Anyone know what the general trends are for movement? If Sandy sits and spins for 48 hours we could easily see heavy snow totals in the VA/NC mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkhorn Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Tomorrow morning we will get an update from LeConte. They already had 7.5 inches this morning, I'll be surprised if they don't have 20" on the ground tomorrow morning. Looks like they have gotten strong flow snows all day long. We'll find out. I've been looking at the radar and it hasn't really let up all day - and the really heavy moisture comes in tomorrow. It started out as a forecast of up to a few inches, then up to 17", then up to 24", and now I think the last forecast I saw up to 35-40". They could get 4 feet out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 44.4 over 32 IMBY. Still nothing reaching the ground even though radar shows returns over me. Well as long as I can keep the returns, that evaporating precip should bring my temp on down closer to that DP. Maybe by daybreak I'll be able to see something. Gonna try to catch some Z's now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Was reading the Charleston, WV disco, and they mentioned MOS was keeping the boundary layer too warm for low elevation snow...I checked NAM and GFS MOS for Bristol, and indeed the sfc temps are in the mid-30 to low-40 range for overnight Mon and Tues. Not sure of the MOS bias at this timerange, but that would be a deal breaker obviously if it's correct. I wonder if that's what Morristown is banking on. It looks like MOS is taking the model output to the woodshed at Tri-Cities...at least that's the case with GFS MOS. Looking at the NAM, GFS, NAM MOS, and GFS MOS, the NAM and GFS are running some 4 degrees too cold at the surface, and NAM MOS is running some 4 degrees too warm...but GFS MOS closely resembles the surface temps at the moment. GFS MOS has surface wet bulb temps in the 33-35 deg range overnight into early morning Tues, before warming some. It does have the precip type switchover to snow overnight, then back to rain in the morning hours. Bottom line, not a good looking temp setup at the surface. Hard to imagine more than very light accumulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotwx Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Tomorrow thru Wed. is the time the snow starts to crank up the totals. It is suppose to stall in lower PA. I dont know about 48hrs. but that maybe correct. What is happening in New York is unbelievable! The winds have really started picking up here also. just listened to a met say the storm would basically stall over central PA or Northern VA for the next 48 hours or so. I haven't really paid attention to any models today on the next 2-4 days. Anyone know what the general trends are for movement? If Sandy sits and spins for 48 hours we could easily see heavy snow totals in the VA/NC mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tgarren Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 getting some pretty good gusts just west of asheboro. half of the tree in the front yard just came down and blocked my driveway. drug it out of the way for in the morning its probably a good 10 or 12 inches around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Actually the models had the heaviest QPF between now and noon tomorrow with a drop off in QPF after that time frame. I know the nw flow could still win out in the end but I think the lights out totals that were being progged in wv are in jeopardy as the radar presentation does not support the modeled QPF that was being shown. Maybe that will all change and it could but it is underperforming on the front end when the QPF was supposed to be the best. Maybe I'm wrong and I hope I am because I'm all for a big storm. On another note...my temp has been rising the past hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltadog03 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 It looks like MOS is taking the model output to the woodshed at Tri-Cities...at least that's the case with GFS MOS. Looking at the NAM, GFS, NAM MOS, and GFS MOS, the NAM and GFS are running some 4 degrees too cold at the surface, and NAM MOS is running some 4 degrees too warm...but GFS MOS closely resembles the surface temps at the moment. GFS MOS has surface wet bulb temps in the 33-35 deg range overnight into early morning Tues, before warming some. It does have the precip type switchover to snow overnight, then back to rain in the morning hours. Bottom line, not a good looking temp setup at the surface. Hard to imagine more than very light accumulations. It does look like MOS is doing a good job....I was wrong, I would have thought the raw data would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 At least 10 killed so far on the east coast...1 from Mount Airy, NC. Last I heard in the Caribbean there was at least 40 deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirNelson39 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 http://viddy.it/VA6lx8 http://viddy.it/VA6y3r Two videos I took from Deck Hill road just outside Boone, snow covered roads and near white out conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 We've been getting some more "moderate" light rain here. Radar shows melting snow aloft, but it's too warm at the surface for anything to make it through, not even a lone snowflake. Wind has been whistling through the window screens, but nothing too bad. We did lose power earlier today in this area for about an hour. Probably a stray limb that went the wrong way. No widespread reports of power outages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowacane Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 At least 10 killed so far on the east coast...1 from Mount Airy, NC. Last I heard in the Caribbean there was at least 40 deaths. It was 65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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