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Sandy Obs and Banter thread - fall 2012


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Ah, I'll pass. Thanks Ian.

yeah it's too late especially before the time change which makes it an hour less late. it comes out slow too so you would need to get to like 230 to get through the storm.

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Local NWS certainly not to blame for any panic

NWS Forecast for: North Potomac MD

Issued by: National Weather Service Baltimore, MD/Washington, D.C.

Last Update: 4:32 am EDT Oct 26, 2012 12.gif

Monday: Showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 49. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Monday Night: Showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 39. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Tuesday: A chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 46. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 30%.(emphasis mine)

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Around 50/50 on going for snow vs. going for the landfall... both have their advantages and disadvantages. Considering footage may be better with the landfall.

I hate to say this, but go for the landfall, especially if it's coming as a hurricane in the Delmarva peninsula. You may not see something like this for decades (at least in this region), wheras seeing feet of snow in Garrett county is commonplace........meh @ snow on leaved trees.

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I hate to say this, but go for the landfall, especially if it's coming as a hurricane in the Delmarva peninsula. You may not see something like this for decades (at least in this region), wheras seeing feet of snow in Garrett county is commonplace........meh @ snow on leaved trees.

Exactly. The thing is though, everyone's going to be covering the coast with virtually no one up in the mountains, so from a more documentary standpoint the snow footage might end up being more sell-able in the long run (considering I'm not really known in the media world and whatever landfall footage I get might be overlooked). I'm going to talk with Jason and other veteran chasers before making my decision.

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I don't think I've ever been this excited about a non-winter storm.

Yea, me too. I really don't care about the snow part of it either. Seeing the potential for a sub 960 to pass within 100 miles of my house is something I didn't think I would ever think could be a reality. I think 960 is somewhere in the hood of 28.30 on a baro. I know 950 is just about 28 even. I'm not sure what the pressure record is for my back yard but I would have to think sub 28.50 would probably be crowned.

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Yea, me too. I really don't care about the snow part of it either. Seeing the potential for a sub 960 to pass within 100 miles of my house is something I didn't think I would ever think could be a reality. I think 960 is somewhere in the hood of 28.30 on a baro. I know 950 is just about 28 even. I'm not sure what the pressure record is for my back yard but I would have to think sub 28.50 would probably be crowned.

Same here, for a hurricane to make landfall at Delmarva is rare enough and I don't think it's happened in my short lifetime, for it to happen in late October with blocking, with such a strong extratropical low possibly passing right over my state is truly something else.

However, if I could chase this then I'd be at Keyser's in a heartbeat, that's just who I am :snowman:

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However, if I could chase this then I'd be at Keyser's in a heartbeat, that's just who I am :snowman:

I have to be honest about chasing...

The main reason I don't care about snow is that my suburban's 4wd computer is having some problems. Sometimes it won't lock the hubs and other times it won't unlock the hubs. The not unlocking part is a big problem so I'm kinda afraid to go into 4wd until it's fixed. If this wasn't the case then I have a feeling I would enjoy the brunt and pressure center's closest pass and the start driving to Garret. Vid cam running the whole time of course.

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I don't think I've ever been this excited about a non-winter storm.

I agree. Isabel was sort of a dud for me up in Frederick MD and I was in the Midwest during Irene.

I still have a worried feeling in the pit of my stomach though. As much as I'd like to trust the Euro, the varying depictions of the models concern me. Don S has had a few great writeups about the monster of a block we are dealing with, which leads me to believe that the Euro solution is more likely, but what do I know.

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I think the only reason is that I'm skeptical of the euro is because it has been a total statue with sandy. Just steady as a rock. It can't be possible right? Nailing something so damn complicated at such a long lead? Part of me thinks it's only possible if the model itself is in control...muah ha haaa

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I think the only reason is that I'm skeptical of the euro is because it has been a total statue with sandy. Just steady as a rock. It can't be possible right? Nailing something so damn complicated at such a long lead? Part of me thinks it's only possible if the model itself is in control...muah ha haaa

Foreigners seem to control many things these days. The U.S. debt, soccer, small island nations. Why not the weather?

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I agree. Isabel was sort of a dud for me up in Frederick MD and I was in the Midwest during Irene.

I still have a worried feeling in the pit of my stomach though. As much as I'd like to trust the Euro, the varying depictions of the models concern me. Don S has had a few great writeups about the monster of a block we are dealing with, which leads me to believe that the Euro solution is more likely, but what do I know.

Isabel was lame and I expected much better than what it brought.

EDIT: was talking about my backyard and expectations only, I didn't mean to say it was lame as a whole.

I'm honestly not too emotionally invested in this storm or what I get IMBY........... while I hope the Euro is right, it will be a hell of a storm here no matter where it lands.

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Isabel was lame and I expected much better than what it brought.

I'm honestly not too emotionally invested in this storm or what I get IMBY........... while I hope the Euro is right, it will be a hell of a storm here no matter where it lands.

You are right. I'd just like to see something cool IMBY though. Perhaps a solitary roof shingle drifting through the air.

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Isabel was lame and I expected much better than what it brought.

I'm honestly not too emotionally invested in this storm or what I get IMBY........... while I hope the Euro is right, it will be a hell of a storm here no matter where it lands.

Depends on where you were at the time. I had Potomac flood waters and a debris field within 50 feet of my doorstep....one friend lost her house and a neighbor lost her new Porsche.

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I'm not really excited at all about this anymore. The lack of snow chances has really diminished any enthusiasm I had to begin with.

Having a big extratropical storm make landfall in the Delmarva is cool and all, but I'm not quite weather-geeky enough for it to make me tingly. Not that there's anything wrong with those that do get tingly, of course!

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Exactly. The thing is though, everyone's going to be covering the coast with virtually no one up in the mountains, so from a more documentary standpoint the snow footage might end up being more sell-able in the long run (considering I'm not really known in the media world and whatever landfall footage I get might be overlooked). I'm going to talk with Jason and other veteran chasers before making my decision.

I'm sure the majority will be covering the storms from the larger beach area's (Rehoboth, OCMD, ect...), so they can have the plush accomodations while doing so, but if you really want to do a documentary (and pending the exact storm track), why not look at hitting the small DE Bay towns? Places like Bowers Beach (north), Little Creek, and Leipsic, in Central DE, are likely going to be destroyed if the Euro track holds true. These small towns of 500 people so along the Bay can flood out during a run of the mill astronomical high tide, I can't imagine what's going to happen to them. They managed to make it through Irene (as all of the flooding that occurred in central DE was caused due to ponds and lakes breaching their dams and washing down into the towns below them), but the storm surge coming up the DE Bay with a landfall near OC,MD is going to just be insane.

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