Jonger Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Plenty of sunshine I'm more of a night guy anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Since Sandy will be whipping up the Lakes, I thought this site would be cool to watch the changing surface currents during this event! http://www.glerl.noa...glcfs/currents/ That is very cool page... Anyone notice the whirlpool effect in the centre of Lake Superior. Talk about a mariners nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 There was talk that a complete eyewall was trying to establish itself. By the looks of it on water vapor... it kinda looks that way! Another cool satellite I snagged from another subforum. She's keeping the drier air at bay to the southeast! 949mb now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Just had a 43 mph gust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think this may be a little overdone away from the lake, but remember, these numbers are in knots: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Areas right near the shore especially in IN/MI are gonna get hammered. Really not a stretch to think that there could be 18+ hours of tropical storm type winds particularly within a couple miles of the lake. It seems possible. It will be interesting to see what the max recorded gust is. You still thinking about heading up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think this may be a little overdone away from the lake, but remember, these numbers are in knots: Forecast soundings for CLE are a whole lotta nasty...900 mb winds around 70 knots tomorrow night and fully mixed to that level. Really wouldn't be shocked to see an 80 mph gust at the shore but not sure if any ob site is close enough to capture it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It seems possible. It will be interesting to see what the max recorded gust is. You still thinking about heading up there? Yeah though not for certain yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Forecast soundings for CLE are a whole lotta nasty...900 mb winds around 70 knots tomorrow night and fully mixed to that level. Really wouldn't be shocked to see an 80 mph gust at the shore but not sure if any ob site is close enough to capture it. KBKL is in downtown Cleveland and as far as I know is actually on an old landfill that extends about a quarter mile out over the lake. So that is the on-land station to watch. I agree with you that the well mixed layer that will be created by the warm lake will really aid in getting some very strong gusts near the lakeshore...could see a 65kt gust or two working out in that area, maybe slightly higher. I'm not sure how quickly gusts will drop off inland...the hi-res 0z NAM shows 2m temps dropping off from near 50 along the lakeshore to the low-mid 40s less than 10 miles inland...with the exception being the Cuyahoga Valley, which also happens to be oriented NNW-SSE, and could yield some of the more impressive gusts away from the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Another thing to keep in mind is that it will be raining for a lot of this event, which could help to bring down some stronger gusts despite the poor mixing heights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Environment Canada appears to be preparing to issue a wind warning @ 5am. As for a rainfall warning... guess they aren't expecting those 2-3" totals now. But, we've ready had 1.90" in Waterloo since Friday and it's still coming down. A COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THE PRESENCE OF A STALLED FRONT NOW OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO. MOISTURE-LADEN POST-TROPICAL STORMS WITH RAIN BANDS INTERACTING WITH FRONTS CAN PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL. PERSISTENT RAIN IS FORECAST NEAR THIS FRONT FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY LEADING UP TO THE ARRIVAL OF SANDY THIS EVENING. A TOTAL OF 20 TO 40 MM IS LIKELY TODAY THROUGH TONIGHT DUE TO SANDY'S EFFECTS, ESPECIALLY ACROSS NIAGARA EXTENDING WEST TOWARDS THE ST THOMAS AREA. LESSER AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY ELSEWHERE. RAINFALL WARNINGS APPEAR UNLIKELY AT THIS TIME BUT CANNOT BE RULED OUT COMPLETELY. WIND IS MORE OF A CONCERN. THE FORECAST TRACK WILL LIKELY PRODUCE WIDESPREAD 50 TO 70 KM/H WINDS ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO BEGINNING LATER TODAY WITH SEVERE GUSTS TO 100 KM/H LIKELY. GALE TO STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED ON THE GREAT LAKES AND ST. LAWRENCE RIVER. THE COMBINATION OF SODDEN GROUND, STRONG WINDS AND SOME RESIDUAL LEAVES ON TREES WILL LIKELY LEAD TO SOME AREAS WITH POWER OUTAGES DUE TO FALLEN LIMBS OR DOWNED TREES SNAPPING POWER LINES. TOTAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND STRENGTH OF THE WINDS WILL ULTIMATELY DEPEND ON THE EXACT TRACK OF THIS LARGE FALL STORM. WIND WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED BY 5 AM FOR A WIDE SWATH OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN ONTARIO. RAINFALL WARNINGS MAY BE ISSUED DEPENDING ON SANDY'S PATH AS THE EVENT DRAWS CLOSER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I am in awe right now. Legitimate hurricane force winds forecasted here. It's unreal to think that it might behoove people to put plywood over their windows this afternoon. The media is really going to have to stress to the public not to sleep in any room that may have a tree nearby. I fear there could be an extremely high death toll with the peak winds coming overnight while people are sleeping. There are going to be a lot of homeless people come Tuesday morning from trees falling through homes. My house is surrounded by 40-50' mature oaks that still have most of their leaves. The wind trajectory and the vegetation here is just not used to that kind of wind stress, especially for hours on end, unlike the more limber tropical palms. Hopefully there are enough FEMA trailers to go around! NWS Forecast for: 3 Miles E Lakewood OH Issued by: National Weather Service Cleveland, OH Last Update: 12:18 am EDT Oct 29, 2012 High Wind WarningLakeshore Flood Warning Flood Watch Hazardous Weather Outlook Overnight: Rain. Low around 42. Breezy, with a north wind around 24 mph, with gusts as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. Monday: Rain. High near 47. Windy, with a north wind 24 to 31 mph, with gusts as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Monday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 48 mph, with gusts as high as 80 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday: Rain. High near 49. Very windy, with a north wind 39 to 44 mph decreasing to 31 to 36 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Breezy, with a north wind 17 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 32 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Saw my first snowflakes just after midnight tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hurricane down to 946mb and up to 85mph winds forecast to get to 90mph before landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Make that 941mb now... Last minute drop in pressure is not good for NYC and NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 6z GFS for CLE. MeteoStar added 925mb winds to their output, pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 A couple impressive wind observations: Port Hope, MI: 29 mph sustained, 44 mph gusts Lorain County Airport, OH: 30 mph sustained, 45 mph gusts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I am in awe right now. Legitimate hurricane force winds forecasted here. It's unreal to think that it might behoove people to put plywood over their windows this afternoon. The media is really going to have to stress to the public not to sleep in any room that may have a tree nearby. I fear there could be an extremely high death toll with the peak winds coming overnight while people are sleeping. There are going to be a lot of homeless people come Tuesday morning from trees falling through homes. My house is surrounded by 40-50' mature oaks that still have most of their leaves. The wind trajectory and the vegetation here is just not used to that kind of wind stress, especially for hours on end, unlike the more limber tropical palms. Hopefully there are enough FEMA trailers to go around! NWS Forecast for: 3 Miles E Lakewood OH Issued by: National Weather Service Cleveland, OH Last Update: 12:18 am EDT Oct 29, 2012 High Wind WarningLakeshore Flood Warning Flood Watch Hazardous Weather Outlook Overnight: Rain. Low around 42. Breezy, with a north wind around 24 mph, with gusts as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. Monday: Rain. High near 47. Windy, with a north wind 24 to 31 mph, with gusts as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Monday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 48 mph, with gusts as high as 80 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday: Rain. High near 49. Very windy, with a north wind 39 to 44 mph decreasing to 31 to 36 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Breezy, with a north wind 17 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 32 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. I wonder how much wind damage Toronto will experience? It looks to be extremely windy tonight, and sometimes Environment Canada plays down things until the last minute. It was only this morning that they issued a wind warning for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Everyone here in Toronto thinks this will be not much of a big deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Extrapolated pressure of 937.5 mb. Given the fast forward motion this thing should not weaken much if any prior to landfall so a sub 940 mb landfall is not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Extrapolated pressure of 937.5 mb. Given the fast forward motion this thing should not weaken much if any prior to landfall so a sub 940 mb landfall is not out of the question. That is just crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That is just crazy! Yep, though I just read that the extrapolations have been running too low. But whether it landfalls at 938, 943, 945 is not going to make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I am in awe right now. Legitimate hurricane force winds forecasted here. It's unreal to think that it might behoove people to put plywood over their windows this afternoon. The media is really going to have to stress to the public not to sleep in any room that may have a tree nearby. I fear there could be an extremely high death toll with the peak winds coming overnight while people are sleeping. There are going to be a lot of homeless people come Tuesday morning from trees falling through homes. My house is surrounded by 40-50' mature oaks that still have most of their leaves. The wind trajectory and the vegetation here is just not used to that kind of wind stress, especially for hours on end, unlike the more limber tropical palms. Hopefully there are enough FEMA trailers to go around! NWS Forecast for: 3 Miles E Lakewood OH Issued by: National Weather Service Cleveland, OH Last Update: 12:18 am EDT Oct 29, 2012 High Wind WarningLakeshore Flood Warning Flood Watch Hazardous Weather Outlook Overnight: Rain. Low around 42. Breezy, with a north wind around 24 mph, with gusts as high as 41 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. Monday: Rain. High near 47. Windy, with a north wind 24 to 31 mph, with gusts as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Monday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Very windy, with a northwest wind 41 to 48 mph, with gusts as high as 80 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday: Rain. High near 49. Very windy, with a north wind 39 to 44 mph decreasing to 31 to 36 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. Tuesday Night: Rain. Low around 43. Breezy, with a north wind 17 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 32 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. That's an extreme forecast for Ohio! If I was riding out the storm there, I wouldn't be sleeping at night with large trees around. Has it been raining non-stop since yesterday? -- My forecasted winds: Today: N winds 15-25mph, gusts to 30mph Tonight: NW winds 20-30mph, gusts to 45mph Tomorrow: NW winds 25-35mph, gusts to 50mph Tomorrow night: NW winds 15-25mph, gusts to 35mph I didn't not expect to see Sandy at 90mph this morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Potential still looks good... ..MAJOR WIND STORM STORM APPROACHING LAKE MICHIGAN.. HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER HUDSON BAY AND NORTHERN ONTARIO EXTENDS SOUTHWARD TO THE TEXAS GULF COAST. MEANWHILE...HURRICANE SANDY CONTINUES TO SPIN OFF THE COAST OF VIRGINIA. THE INCREASING PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN THESE TWO FEATURES HAS LED TO GALES ACROSS LAKE HURON AND LAKE ERIE WITH THESE STRONG WINDS EXPANDING WESTWARD TOWARD LAKE MICHIGAN. NORTH WINDS WILL STEADILY INCREASE THROUGH THE MORNING AND REACH GALE FORCE THIS AFTERNOON. SPEEDS WILL FURTHER INCREASE TO HIGH END GALES THIS EVENING AT WHICH TIME SANDY WILL BE MOVING WESTWARD ACROSS SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY. WHAT REMAINS OF SANDY WILL MOVE TOWARD WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY LEADING TO FURTHER INTENSIFICATION OF WINDS ACROSS THE LAKE. EXPECT THAT STORM FORCE WINDS TO 50 KT WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE LATE TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGH MID TUESDAY AFTERNOON...WITH 55 KT GUSTS POSSIBLE AT TIMES. STORM FORCE GUSTS TO 50 KT LOOK POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTH HALF FOR A SHORT PERIOD LATE TUESDAY MORNING/EARLY TUESDAY AFTERNOON BUT HAVE LESS CONFIDENCE IN THIS OCCURRING SO WILL CONTINUE WITH THE GALE WARNING AND MENTION THE POTENTIAL FOR 50 KT IN THE TEXT FORECAST. THE BEST CHANCE FOR THIS ON THE NORTH HALF LOOKS TO BE FROM MID LAKE EASTWARD. WINDS WILL BEGIN TO GRADUALLY EASE OFF TUESDAY EVENING BUT GALE FORCE WINDS LOOK TO CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. HIGH PRESSURE WILL FINALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE BY THE END OF THE WEEK AS THE REMNANTS OF SANDY MOVE UP THE ST. LAWRENCE VALLEY. IMPACTS...THE LONG DURATION...FULL LENGTH FETCH...AND PERIOD OF STORM FORCE WINDS WILL DRIVE WAVES INTO THE 20-25 FT RANGE WITH OCCASIONAL WAVES OF 30-33 FT POSSIBLE AT TIMES. THESE CONDITIONS ARE SIMILAR TO THE STORM WHICH OCCURRED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 30 2011 WHICH PRODUCED THE HIGHEST WAVE EVER RECORDED AT THE SOUTH BUOY...23 FT. IN ADDITION TO IMPACTS ON SHIPPING/BOATING THE HIGHEST WAVES WILL PUSH ASHORE ACROSS NORTHWEST INDIANA LEADING TO BEACH EROSION AND FLOODING OF SOME SHORELINE AREAS. THE ILLINOIS SHORELINE IS ALSO AT RISK OF BEACH EROSION AND FLOODING...ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE SECTIONS OF SHORELINE WHICH HAVE A NORTHERN EXPOSURE. ANY SHORELINE...PIER...OR BREAKWALL THAT EXTENDS OUT INTO THE LAKE WILL BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO HAVING WAVES BREAK OVER THEM AT TIMES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I have to work and no way i'm tackling the dan ryan during rush to hit the dunes but i'll defintiely head out to Montrose harbor tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Trying to talk myself into traveling up north to see this event. Little ahead of the show, sort of speak, but sustained winds of 23mph, gusts to 32mph at LAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Looks like the first outer clouds from Sandy are almost across L Mich... http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/wisc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxhstn74 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 10/29/12 Update - "Wicked Witch Of The East Sandy" To Make Life Miserable For The Northeast Back Into The Great Lakes http://weatherhistorian.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 starting to get some decent gusts....the kind that make the old house creek and crack (for those who live in a 100 yr+ house you know what I mean). Local news was interviewing a NWS guy who said he didn't expect outtages to be as widespread as the derecho. This makes me wonder. Which is potentially more damaging? 15 mins of 50-70mph winds OR 18 hours of 30-55mph winds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Buckeye- In winter, every night around 11pm my house makes a big cracking noise...something to do with the rafters/joists moving/contracting..who knows...the whole place will probably collapse Have fun guys...i'll be watching from the sidelines...i see a few leaves on the tree moving outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.