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Sandy/Posttrop Phase Thread For PHL Area


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Maybe not top end ..but the Winfield is just gonna ginormous. And stronger overall

Yes, one reason the winds won't be a strong as you might think... friend of mine more familiar with these stats says that the tropical storm force windfield is now larger than any other recorded TC in the Atlantic.

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Yes, one reason the winds won't be a strong as you might think... friend of mine more familiar with these stats says that the tropical storm force windfield is now larger than any other recorded TC in the Atlantic.

Yea, hearing the IKE ( I something kentic energy) is the highest ever recorded... Saw it in the NE forum or main thread. I'll dig it up.

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Integrated Kinetic Energy. 222 tJ at 2 am I believe...

Thank you. Crashing on the couch of my buddies house after a Halloween party. (Hungover ugh ) id like to fall asleep, but this has me too excited.

Hard to imagine the IKE is higher than Katrina and Wilma, but it is* that's how large the Wind field is!

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the only thing as others have mentioned, the pressure may not correlate with wind speed.

Here is a chart just showing that. This comes from Patrick Marsh of OU, it has his name on the chart, so hopefully he is ok with this. What Brian said too, what is lost on the pressure field will more than will be made up by the duration of what could be 18-24 hours of tropical storm level gusts around our area. (Stronger gusts toward the coast and north of center).

Also as what Hurricane Josh has posted no matter what the pressure is, it makes a difference whether or not this storm is intensifying or weakening at/toward landfall.

I wish everyone the best of luck. Be safe. Sadly most people have no point of reference (whether the Irenes and Glorias desensitized them) as to judge how bad this is going to be. The derecho knocked out power for SE NJ for up to a week (I know a few places longer), what is this going to do?

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question:

with landfall is tornado activity in play? I have not seen any discussion on this topic and began to assume since Sandy is losing tropical characteristics by then the answer might be either no or not as much.

It was touched on somewhat here and in other threads. If I remember, most thought the threat will be low, but that some spin-ups could happen.

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Here is a chart just showing that. This comes from Patrick Marsh of OU, it has his name on the chart, so hopefully he is ok with this. What Brian said too, what is lost on the pressure field will more than will be made up by the duration of what could be 18-24 hours of tropical storm level gusts around our area. (Stronger gusts toward the coast and north of center).

Also as what Hurricane Josh has posted no matter what the pressure is, it makes a difference whether or not this storm is intensifying or weakening at/toward landfall.

I wish everyone the best of luck. Be safe. Sadly most people have no point of reference (whether the Irenes and Glorias desensitized them) as to judge how bad this is going to be. The derecho knocked out power for SE NJ for up to a week (I know a few places longer), what is this going to do?

I was in Baltimore area the time of the Derecho - devastating - some people had no power for up to two weeks (BGE has issues to begin with). Anyway - if this comes close to that - and thinking it will because of strong sustained wind issue - I am feeling rather sick to my stomach right now. Nothing but wait and listen. Trying to tell my family that this may be something they will never experience in their lifetime. As prepared as I will ever be with family -- it's out of our hands now. Hoping the forcast doesn't verify...

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Mid-latitude cyclone "Friedhelm" (Hurricane Bawbag to the locals in Scotland) hit the British Isles in December 2011 with minimum central pressure of 957 mb and maximum sustained winds of 105 mph, so these storms can really wind up the windfield.

Perfect example of the isallobaric contribution to the wind field from a bombing low.

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...and pretty unlikely to verify.

Beautiful to model watch though.

Edit: lowest brings it sub 972 per SV so that sub 970 is pretty close.

Bump ;-) just for laughs.

No one reasonable in weather thought this would verify from that far out. Amazing how te models sniffed this out 7-8days in advance.

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if it takes that track we wouldnt get as bad of rain, but the wind would be worse...so pick your poison...del and nj would hate that track. all depends when that curve starts to take place...the sooner the further south.

Yeah more winds, more NE wind flow into more of NJ. That'd be bad.

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Bump ;-) just for laughs.

No one reasonable in weather thought this would verify from that far out. Amazing how te models sniffed this out 7-8days in advance.

thats why i hate when people dismiss everything before it happens. We have lived through the march 2001 storm, the eagles comeback against the giants, winter of 09-10 we should learn to let things play out and not dismiss it.

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