ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Snowman21 - Any idea what the earliest freeze dates for the coop stations are in CT? I can't find them easily. I can find like 1971-2000 median first freeze dates are for the coops on the clim20 data but that's it. A few that I found and the date: Danbury coop: 9/29/43 Burlington coop: 9/20/79 Groton coop: 9/24/63 (this surprised me, the coop must be in a good radiational cooling spot just inland) Middletown: 9/11/17 New Haven Tweed: 10/6/65 Norfolk coop: 9/16/64 Storrs coop: 9/20/79 West Thompson Lake: 9/15/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 And just for Litchfieldlibations: BDR: 10/9/88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Is there any other place to get bufkit data? The PSU site doesn't have the 12z NAM bufkit data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 A few that I found and the date: Danbury coop: 9/29/43 Burlington coop: 9/20/79 Groton coop: 9/24/63 (this surprised me, the coop must be in a good radiational cooling spot just inland) Middletown: 9/11/17 New Haven Tweed: 10/6/65 Norfolk coop: 9/16/64 Storrs coop: 9/20/79 West Thompson Lake: 9/15/75 I did find Falls Village and Mansfield are both 8/31. How did you get those dates? Just scanning through the raw data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I did find Falls Village and Mansfield are both 8/31. How did you get those dates? Just scanning through the raw data? The new Utah state database has "freeze data" which is actually kind of cool. It doesn't just give mean and median freeze dates for both spring and fall...it gives earliest and latest too for each season in addition to the averages. The site is a bit annoying to get used to compared to the older one, but it has some extra data there as a bonus which prevents us from going through all the years or at minimum the cumbersome task of trying to paste it into excel and filtering it like that. http://climate.usurf.usu.edu/mapGUI/mapGUI.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I spent an hour playing with the new site about a month ago. It's annoying but once you get a feel for it, you'll like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 the mountain cams look cool, killington looking quite wintery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The new Utah state database has "freeze data" which is actually kind of cool. It doesn't just give mean and median freeze dates for both spring and fall...it gives earliest and latest too for each season in addition to the averages. The site is a bit annoying to get used to compared to the older one, but it has some extra data there as a bonus which prevents us from going through all the years or at minimum the cumbersome task of trying to paste it into excel and filtering it like that. http://climate.usurf...pGUI/mapGUI.php Neat! Thanks for sharing, Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If ORH can put up a reading in the 20s tonight, it will be the first time they have done that this early in October since 1993 which did it on 10/11 with a 29F reading....however, 1992 just one year earlier blows them all out of the water for timing with a 28F reading on 10/1!! That one blows my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 the mountain cams look cool, killington looking quite wintery Dude it's been snowing consistently for over an hour now in town...below 1000ft. It started as grauple but has been bonifide flakes for a while now as upslope rolls off Mansfield and into town. I had no idea I'd get to watch it snow today at the lower elevations. 39F -SN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Dude it's been snowing consistently for over an hour now in town...below 1000ft. It started as grauple but has been bonifide flakes for a while now as upslope rolls off Mansfield and into town. I had no idea I'd get to watch it snow today at the lower elevations. 39F -SN It looks like Killngton has the guns back on again on Rime but it's hard to tell: http://www.killington.com/winter/multimedia/webcam/northridge.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 LL's heat pump is off for a day or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If ORH can put up a reading in the 20s tonight, it will be the first time they have done that this early in October since 1993 which did it on 10/11 with a 29F reading....however, 1992 just one year earlier blows them all out of the water for timing with a 28F reading on 10/1!! That one blows my mind. For some contrast to tomorrow....on 10/13/95 it hit 79F. That party actually lasted almost until the end of the month when it turned cold before Halloween, but then it was pretty different after that, lol. Nov '95 was frigid and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 A few that I found and the date: Danbury coop: 9/29/43 Burlington coop: 9/20/79 Groton coop: 9/24/63 (this surprised me, the coop must be in a good radiational cooling spot just inland) Middletown: 9/11/17 New Haven Tweed: 10/6/65 Norfolk coop: 9/16/64 Storrs coop: 9/20/79 West Thompson Lake: 9/15/75 Mine (FWIW) is 9/11/1985. I started keeping records May of that year - who knew the record would still be standing all these years later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Mine (FWIW) is 9/11/1985. I started keeping records May of that year - who knew the record would still be standing all these years later! That's pretty early. You must have some decent ability to radiate. The ORH airport records are all 100% airmass low temps since that is the only way for them to cool off. Its funny seeing records like August 31, 1965 as earliest freeze at Taunton, MA coop. That is nearly 3 weeks earlier than the first freeze at ORH airport...though the older coop site that could radiate a bit better had earlier in September...but still no August. Those real primo spots have some shockingly early dates...even in areas you wouldn't expect at first glance like SE MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 A few that I found and the date: Danbury coop: 9/29/43 Burlington coop: 9/20/79 Groton coop: 9/24/63 (this surprised me, the coop must be in a good radiational cooling spot just inland) Middletown: 9/11/17 New Haven Tweed: 10/6/65 Norfolk coop: 9/16/64 Storrs coop: 9/20/79 West Thompson Lake: 9/15/75 Middletown earlier than Norfolk lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Middletown earlier than Norfolk lol Yeah Norfolk is up on a hill... tough to radiate up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 First frozen here today off of a lake effect snow/graupel shower. Hopefully my old home back in SW CT can get below freezing tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'd love to know the precise location, but according to Wunderground, the low on this date was 23F(1956). This is for KTAN. I think the ASOS site has only been operation since 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yeah Norfolk is up on a hill... tough to radiate up there. I know its just funny cause Norfolk is such a cold place all wintegrg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That's pretty early. You must have some decent ability to radiate. The ORH airport records are all 100% airmass low temps since that is the only way for them to cool off. Its funny seeing records like August 31, 1965 as earliest freeze at Taunton, MA coop. That is nearly 3 weeks earlier than the first freeze at ORH airport...though the older coop site that could radiate a bit better had earlier in September...but still no August. Those real primo spots have some shockingly early dates...even in areas you wouldn't expect at first glance like SE MA. Yeah, I do OK under the right conditions. The conditions I don't like are warming aloft or along the surface coming up the Willimantic River valley and snow changes to rain. SE MA does seem to do well, even compared to elevated places to their NW. I think the sandy coastal plain soil probably helps. I'm actually toying with the idea of getting some USB temperature loggers and putting them in different places to find the best spots around here. $50 for microclimate research isn't too bad. I know the last places for snow retention, now it's time to find the coolest spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapperman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 LOL eastern guys. 4 weeks from now and we would have that big "STORM MODE" caption up at the top. http://www.twisterda...e&archive=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 LOL eastern guys. 4 weeks from now and we would have that big "STORM MODE" caption up at the top. http://www.twisterda...e&archive=false For a rainstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 For a rainstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Nice wintery feel out there today, Blustery and 48F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapperman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 For a rainstorm? :: :<sigh> No. I don't think 4 weeks from now with a big eastern trough the temp profiles would look like this: http://www.twisterda...e&archive=false Just was trying to have some fun imagining the NNE guys playing with this one. I guess I fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yeah, I do OK under the right conditions. The conditions I don't like are warming aloft or along the surface coming up the Willimantic River valley and snow changes to rain. SE MA does seem to do well, even compared to elevated places to their NW. I think the sandy coastal plain soil probably helps. I'm actually toying with the idea of getting some USB temperature loggers and putting them in different places to find the best spots around here. $50 for microclimate research isn't too bad. I know the last places for snow retention, now it's time to find the coolest spot. You should put a sensor at my house to prove Scooter and Will wrong about their doubts on my temps and accusations of me lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Pony-O is saying it's snowing lol "Snow !!!! We have snow falling here at 1700' . Mangled flakes and graupel !!!! Its here after long last! SNOW!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Pony-O is saying it's snowing lol "Snow !!!! We have snow falling here at 1700' . Mangled flakes and graupel !!!! Its here after long last! SNOW!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yeah, I do OK under the right conditions. The conditions I don't like are warming aloft or along the surface coming up the Willimantic River valley and snow changes to rain. SE MA does seem to do well, even compared to elevated places to their NW. I think the sandy coastal plain soil probably helps. I'm actually toying with the idea of getting some USB temperature loggers and putting them in different places to find the best spots around here. $50 for microclimate research isn't too bad. I know the last places for snow retention, now it's time to find the coolest spot. As we mentioned earlier, Boston Hollow, Yale Forest and Bigelow Pond are cold spots in Northeastern Connecticut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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