Mr Torchey Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 69/65 overcast and muggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 No, that point IS - snow in October means nothing. Oh well I agree with that...at least in the sense that there is no evidence that snow in October means a poor winter incoming. That is, unless you reduce the years to only years where Logan airport gets measurable...but in that case, we are talking like 4 winters sample....essentially useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 No, people missed the point in lieu of backyard - eastern N/A does not preclusively suffer a bad winter because there is snow in October. I kept hearing this over the last 2 years and it's garbage. For the years that there is measurable snow at BOS in October, the end of winter snow totals are significantly lower. That's a fact but the sample size is small. So saying it's garbage is well.....garbage or at least trash...not that I would talk trash to you John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Almost a late bloomer on Euro 10/12-13, lol. Really cold airmass there, but in clown range. It has the signs of a torch after that though...ensembles had been hinting at it too anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 For the years that there is measurable snow at BOS in October, the end of winter snow totals are significantly lower. That's a fact but the sample size is small. So saying it's garbage is well.....garbage or at least trash...not that I would talk trash to you John. Well ... "meteorology" is a fools errand if we talk about a single point. Regional climatology speaks amply to the system. I just kept hearing this snow in Ocotber, so the winter should suck - sort of straight away. ah, what - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Almost a late bloomer on Euro 10/12-13, lol. Really cold airmass there, but in clown range. It has the signs of a torch after that though...ensembles had been hinting at it too anyway. Here's my take on things seeing since you pleaded and begged for it . ... Any given warming episode in any given extended, while we are in this new apparent R-wave construct, will shrink in shorter ranges, then be day or 2 day relaxations before trough reloads. It's opposite of pre-August 10. This paradigm features 2/3rd trough by 1/3rd relaxation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Here's my take on things seeing since you pleaded and begged for it . ... Any given warming episode in any given extended, while we are in this new apparent R-wave construct, will shrink in shorter ranges, then be day or 2 day relaxations before trough reloads. It's opposite of pre-August 10. This paradigm features 2/3rd trough by 1/3rd relaxation Well that time range is certainly speculatory at minimum and the current 10 day period starting today is probably going to average out colder than we (at least some of the consensus discussion in our threads) initially thought about a week or 10 days ago. There were signs we could end up mild, but the cold shots may end up outdoing the torches...or at the very least, equaling them. We'll get warm here for a couple days before cold, and then another blast of cold is looking more likely later next week too. It will be interesting to see just how stubborn the PNA/-EPO reload tries to get. The ensembles definitely want to break it down eventually, but they might be in error doing so...particularly if we have a lot of tropical recurves in the PAC and also using the general bias of models tending to break down a block once it has formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Tropical convection may also get active so perhaps if it does flatten out, we may see it reload at towards the end of the month? Good luck banking on the MJO forecasts, but all models have the signal so it deserves some attention. It's also interesting to note that we seem to have two separate warm pools down in the tropical Pacific. One near and weest of the dateline and the other in the east basin. I wouldn't mind seeing a WWB bring some of that water near the dateline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 everything detailed aside, the 50,000 foot view looks good from here. The last time I recall seeing this type of early to mid Autumn persistent NW flow through central Canada in the models, and also verification to do so that began back in August and is on-going, hearkens back to some winters that ended up above the median around here. Not a lock by any means, but encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well ... "meteorology" is a fools errand if we talk about a single point. Regional climatology speaks amply to the system. I just kept hearing this snow in Ocotber, so the winter should suck - sort of straight away. ah, what - Maybe we should modify it to snow on the coast of SNE? Who knows? 2005 was the best chance and we did have an anemic KU at least and the classic 12/9/05 2 months earlier. BOS booked in inch which came down heavily during the day 10/30. And of course it's the Patriots snow in 2009 which came down in Boston but no measurable. It's kind of silly but in 500 years we'll have a better sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 68/66 Downright humid for October, finished work early and just got back from a long walk, so many colors and textures to please the eye and soul, get out there and enjoy it folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Nope, you are thinking of 2010. October 2009 led into an epic winter for the Mid-Atlantic, but we consistently got shafted. Though the winter really was doing pretty well through mid-January. It was ok around here. Still wound up near avg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Lil' bit swampy out there this afternoon. I can't wait for some colder weather. I'm now into my sixth month of wearing shorts. (weddings and funerals the exception lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 It was ok around here. Still wound up near avg Yep...still got shafted a whole bunch though, lol. When you miss 3 HECs type storms by a razors edge, its still frustrating. My 68.1" of snow though was about as average as you can get. The NE corner of MA and into SE NH and Maine...not so much. Terrible winter there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 69/66 at the high for the day +6 so far Next week is going to feel downright cold after this humidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 69/66 at the high for the day +6 so far Next week is going to feel downright cold after this humidity I was hoping I could find out the departure at BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yep...still got shafted a whole bunch though, lol. When you miss 3 HECs type storms by a razors edge, its still frustrating. My 68.1" of snow though was about as average as you can get. The NE corner of MA and into SE NH and Maine...not so much. Terrible winter there. Well below average up here except BTV with the freak largest snowstorm on record with 37" in 3 days. At least the HECS were so far south it wasn't the tease it was in SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well below average up here except BTV with the freak largest snowstorm on record with 37" in 3 days. At least the HECS were so far south it wasn't the tease it was in SNE. Here in the HV it was beyond a tease! Areas just south of us were measuring in feet while we were sniffing cirrus. smh Only thing that salvaged that yr was the snowicane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 SnowNH is currently at Logan waiting to depart to Grand Forks...he's chasing the snowstorm lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hope everyone is enjoying the wonderful weather today. I did. Played 36 holes in about 5 hours time........Wasn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I did. Played 36 holes in about 5 hours time........Wasn't too bad. Nice! Fast golf is good golf, how did you play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Where else you can archived weather maps? NARR is down on EWALL. You can get NARR maps here: http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/data.php#narr_datasets You can click on plot/ftp4u and generate images by selecting the options for plots. It takes more effort than the e-wall site since you have to select what you want in your maps. I think e-wall migrated to a new server yesterday and they have some lingering bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 SnowNH is currently at Logan waiting to depart to Grand Forks...he's chasing the snowstorm lol. It appears that he has joined MRG's board and is posting there on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yep we missed all the big Nor'easters that year also of course, except the snowcane. 46 inches from that double storm pushed it from a mediocre winter to around 100 inches. The main (second) part of that snowcane was one of the more bizarre storms I have ever seen. Heavy snow was occurring in Orange and Putnam Counties while the warm air wrapped north of the low and Albany was getting mostly rain. Fortunately I was "just" far enough west of ALB for all snow, but it was actually a wetter snow than they were getting south of me. Here in the HV it was beyond a tease! Areas just south of us were measuring in feet while we were sniffing cirrus. smh Only thing that salvaged that yr was the snowicane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 It appears that he has joined MRG's board and is posting there on a regular basis. It continues to grow...a lot of people posting there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 68/67 Tropical, ac is humming thank God. Goodbye Dice K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Nice! Fast golf is good golf, how did you play? First time out in about a month because classes started. Shot 89 first time round, but parred my last 5 holes. Guess I got warmed up. Then I have no idea about the second 18 because it started to rain a little heavier. So I was focusing on just holding the club. But the second 18 was much better than the first even though it was raining. When I am playing regularly(once a week) I usually shoot around 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 It appears that he has joined MRG's board and is posting there on a regular basis. Too bad. We were going to give him another chance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Too bad. We were going to give him another chance too. You won't let him post somewhere because he apparently posts somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 You won't let him post somewhere because he apparently posts somewhere else? lol...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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