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Rocktober like the old days. Bridging to winter


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disgusting yet luxurious at the same time. Murky and humid and then we break out into sun Friday with true summertime weather, finally fall returns Sunday but not before a staggering departure will be thrown up here. First flakes for NNE?...............its that wonderful time of year as the pendulum swings back and forth and it will once again towards the end of the month as the flow relaxes and becomes more zonal.

Lawns are bright green this morning after the rain/drizzle and ridiculous overnight temps, nice contrast with the leaves just turning.

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Pattern change starts 10/10 and is complete 10/25?

I think it relaxes a bit after mid month. Models flatten out the ridge in AK, but it's not replaces by a vortex or anything like that..just a more zonal flow. Sort of jives with the weeklies being a little warmer second half of the month.

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I think it relaxes a bit after mid month. Models flatten out the ridge in AK, but it's not replaces by a vortex or anything like that..just a more zonal flow. Sort of jives with the weeklies being a little warmer second half of the month.

Agree. GEFS on board with that as well. My thread starter statement was tongue in cheek from last years debacle.

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What an awesome storm for NW MN and NE ND tonight into tomorrow. Someone might even hear a rumble of thunder.

They do have awesome storms. Imagine being under a blizzard and tornado warning simultaneously? If that happened on the east coast I think the board would melt down.

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Pattern change starts 10/10 and is complete 10/25?

Fundamentally the pattern changed in early to mid August - that's when a clear R-wave roll-back took place and we've had western heights 2/3rds of the time ever since. It's semi permanent in the sense that it is still around and so now a 1.5 month deal - bit it is bona fide and different than that which preceded by over a year's worth of pattern recognition.

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Even you guys are socked in. You just have to respect wedging in October with very warm and humid air aloft along with weaker sun. That's what I argued for this area the past few days.

yep-the angle of the sun in August would burn this off in no time....good call on your part. Hoping it breaks tomorrow.

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Monday's normals for the upcoming cold shot...

BDL 66/44

BDR 66/49

BOS 64/49

ORH 61/44

PVD 66/46

Looks like your going to get ur chillys nights. Sunday looks to be raw and 50's, impressive shot coming for early october.

Hopefully that -10 comes and u can shot ur ac off

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Looks like your going to get ur chillys nights. Sunday looks to be raw and 50's, impressive shot coming for early october.

Hopefully that -10 comes and u can shot ur ac off

It will be a decent cool shot, but nothing amazing for October standards. The cold shots of both 2011 and 2009 are more impressive than this upcoming one assuming no major changes. 2011's shot was pretty brief, but intense. 2009 was both impressive in duration and intensity....10 straight negative departure days and 5 consecutive double digit negative departure days during the brunt of it with 2 snow events in there.

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It will be a decent cool shot, but nothing amazing for October standards. The cold shots of both 2011 and 2009 are more impressive than this upcoming one assuming no major changes. 2011's shot was pretty brief, but intense. 2009 was both impressive in duration and intensity....10 straight negative departure days and 5 consecutive double digit negative departure days during the brunt of it with 2 snow events in there.

And we went to pan-wide 45 day snowmeggedon in mid Winter, dispelling the belief that October snow has to be a bad thing

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And we went to pan-wide 45 day snowmeggedon in mid Winter, dispelling the belief that October snow has to be a bad thing

Nope, you are thinking of 2010. October 2009 led into an epic winter for the Mid-Atlantic, but we consistently got shafted. Though the winter really was doing pretty well through mid-January.

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