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Aussie (& S-Hemisphere) Cyclone Action 2012-2013


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ADT is T5.3 = 97 kts and it looks like the algorithm missed the center. I'd bet we have a major on our hands right now.

 

Yeah, it looks like a 100-kt system to me, now.  That eye really shrunk overnight.

 

He's pullled his arms in and is spinning like a top now. Much faster rotation since last night, and its not moving....

 

Yep-- the contraction is particularly visible one the radar.  It's just a much tighter system now.

 

I don't usually follow storms in this part of the world but Rusty is looking pretty good today. I imagine the coastline is taking a beating with him stalled just offshore like that.

 

Omg, hi, shaggy.  Nice to see you.  :)  The nearest town, Port Hedland, has had sustained gales for over 24 hr now!  It's becoming an endurance test for them, I'm sure.

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The BoM has upgraded Rusty to a Cat 4 on their scale, with winds of 90 kt (10-min).  So that makes it a major on our scale.  That sounds about right.

 

The core looks to come ashore in the desolate area E of Hedland, near De Grey.  There's very little going on there.  I have a chaser friend who's in Hedland now, and he said getting E on the highway is going to be tricky, since they're under Red Alert, meaning no one's supposed to be out driving-- and apparently this is strictly enforced with harsh fines.  Grrrrr.

 

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Latest video update from Oz Cyclone Chasers- who think Pardoo Station may be in greater danger than Pt. Hedland.

 

Port Hedland I think is going to get missed, although I won't say that on my Facebook page-- I have a lot of new Hedlander fans and I don't want to say anything that might even remotely influence the actions of people in the threatened area.  The settlement at De Grey is going to get a direct hit, but there's almost nothing there.  Pardoo is nothing more than a settlement, either-- it's not a town or anything.

 

Steve Brooks on Australian TV (near the end).

 

From Pilbara Weather Facebook, just before upgrade from yellow to red alert.

 

Also from Pilbara Weather Facebook, more bendy palms

 

Good find.  Steve is the one I was going to chase with, if I went.

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Eye stll looks decent on radar, but Josh is right, satellite looks meh.

 

Maybe drifting just a touch to the South now looking at radar, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

 

Pt Hedland- with a couple of short breaks with winds barely below gale force, been about a day and a half of continuous gales.  64 knot gust yesterday, 26 Feb, 8:00 am WST

 

 

Pt Hedland obs,

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Eye stll looks decent on radar, but Josh is right, satellite looks meh.

 

Maybe drifting just a touch to the South now looking at radar, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

 

Pt Hedland- with a couple of short breaks with winds barely below gale force, been about a day and a half of continuous gales.  64 knot gust yesterday, 26 Feb, 8:00 am WST

 

 

Pt Hedland obs,

 

The PHE obs have been mind-numbingly consistent:  hours and hours and hours of winds 40-41 kt gusting to around 50.  And the pressure's been hovering between 984 and 988 mb-- just kinda up and down.  If I were in PHE to chase this, I'd be out of my mind by now.

 

By the way... I chatted with Steve, who's in South Hedland right now.  There's no way they're going to get to Pardoo, because the De Grey River overflowed onto the highway-- so they're kinda f*cked from a chase perspective.  Grrrrr.

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Do they issue press passes?

 

Apparently it even applies to press, although I'm checking on this.

 

What a serious buzzkill.  Omg.  No way I'm gonna chase somewhere if I can't adjust my position in the final 24 hr. Makes zero sense if your priority is punching the core.  I mean, in this instance, the dudes in Hedland were just stuck there while Pardoo got raked.  (Part of it was highway flooding, but basically, they couldn't leave Hedland-- the highway was blocked just E of the Airport.)

 

Queensland is not so strict, by the way.

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Yeah.  But the JTWC has it at 80 kt (1-min).  At the end of the day, it really fizzled and was not impressive as it came ashore.  Not sure what happened there in the end.  Maybe upwelling finally got it?

Slow speed and land are usually never a good combo.

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Especially becuase that part of Australia is all either desert or semiarid.  Much worse surface fluxes than, say, a storm stalled off the Everglades or Louisiana bayou. 

 

Friction is a problem either way, of course. 

 

Yeah, but on the other hand, this area is also really flat and smooth, without lots of buildings or trees.  A BoM dude mentioned to me that wind data from PHE are almost like over-water data because there's so little friction.

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Yeah, but on the other hand, this area is also really flat and smooth, without lots of buildings or trees.  A BoM dude mentioned to me that wind data from PHE are almost like over-water data because there's so little friction.

 

Maybe so, but my point was that it's not surprising that Rusty looked so poor on IR given the cast that the storm was rotting halfway over very dry land for 24 h. 

 

Friction kills storms by throwing them out of gradient wind balance.  As the F term becomes too large, air parcels are deflected towards the center of the cyclone and the pressure rises / eye fills in.  A lack of a warm / moist sea surface below the storm means a  drier boundary layer, higher LCLs, less latent heat release in the secondary circulation, and weaker convection.  Or as you said, a "craptastic" look on satellite. 

 

edit: of course unfavorable environmental factors can also lead to a poor look on satellite, just like an extremely favorable environment can help overcome partial land interaction.  But I think this was a case where the storm failed to reach its full potential just because it stalled too close to land.  50 mi further north, and perhaps we would have seen something more significant.  :)

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The Euro and the GFS are both advertising a significant cyclone in the Coral Sea in the 7-10-day range.  The Euro keeps it well offshore, whereas  the GFS brings it toward Queensland as it weakens.

 

Something to watch.

 

I-Cyclone almost owes it to its Australian fanbase to intercept a storm this year.  I sometimes watch old I-Cyclone videos in the off season, but a new Southern Hemisphere intercept...

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