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October 2012 Observations & Discussions


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Not bad....

RECORD EVENT REPORT...UPDATE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK

935 AM CDT MON OCT 8 2012

...NEW RECORD COLD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT OKLAHOMA CITY...

THE OFFICIAL LOW TEMPERATURE THIS MORNING AT WILL ROGERS WORLD

AIRPORT IN OKLAHOMA CITY WAS 31 DEGREES. THIS BREAKS THE PREVIOUS

RECORD LOW OF 34 DEGREES...WHICH WAS SET ON THIS DATE IN 2000.

THIS IS OFFICIALLY THE EARLIEST FALL FREEZE ON RECORD FOR OKLAHOMA

CITY. THE PREVIOUS EARLIEST FALL FREEZE WAS ON OCTOBER 9 BACK IN

2000.

TEMPERATURE RECORDS FOR OKLAHOMA CITY DATE BACK TO 1891.

A record Low Max was set at Newark today...54...over 1,000 records in this cold snap across the nation.

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.06 rain...what a bust

One would hope that these kind of posts will stop by the time winter comes.

El busto on the rain for tonight outside of a shower here or there.

Second friendly reminder in two days that these kinds of posts add nothing to the discussion, in fact they take away from it. Given the pinned thread at the top of the forum, take that hint for what it's worth.

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Sorry-thought this was banter for some reason-which it's not

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Upton notes the 2 scenarios for tonight in their updated AFD

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LOOKING AT REGIONAL RADAR TRENDS...APPEARS FOR NOW THAT WILL ONLY

SEE SPOTTY LIGHT RAIN THROUGH THE EVENING.

THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW THE OVERNIGHT PLAYS OUT. 18Z NAM AND 18Z

GFS CONTINUE TO HAVE SIMILAR DIFFERENCES TO THEIR RESPECTIVE 12Z

RUNS OVER PLACEMENT/STRENGTH OF 850-500 HPA FRONTOGENETIC AND

Q-VECTOR FORCING. SINCE SO FAR IT IS NOT COMPLETELY APPARENT WHICH

ONE OF THE TWO IS MORE LIKELY TO BE CORRECT - THOUGH THERE ARE

SOME INDICATIONS THAT THE GFS MIGHT END UP BEING CLOSER TO

REALITY...WILL CONTINUE WITH IDEA OF A BLENDED FORECAST FOR THE

OVERNIGHT WITH LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN OVER MOST OF THE TRI-STATE.

HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA WITH UPDATE AROUND 3 HOURS FROM

NOW - BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO END UP NEEDING TO SCALE BACK

ON QPF AMOUNTS OVERNIGHT.

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What are the chances we could hit 80F again? Is that at all likely. Signs point to some strong warming next week.

Per the gefs map that forky posted, probably not. Average highs are now down into the mid 60s and a 3 to 6 degree departure like his map shows would put us at around 70 degrees at the very warmest.

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Per the gefs map that forky posted, probably not. Average highs are now down into the mid 60s and a 3 to 6 degree departure like his map shows would put us at around 70 degrees at the very warmest.

Those are smoothed averages. If it's 6 degrees above normal and one day is normal, another day has to be 12 degrees above normal to be +6.

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Those are smoothed averages. If it's 6 degrees above normal and one day is normal, another day has to be 12 degrees above normal to be +6.

So does that mean 80s are possible because one day can be well above normal and the averages could still be +3 if the other days around it are closer to normal.

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I doubt that all areas outside the city will see a freeze. If the winds don't lighten up, you can kiss that chance goodbye, especially for coastal locations. North winds on LI sound should keep

LI above freezing. Even if the winds do lighten up, the ocean should keep all coastal locations from getting to near freezing.

Anyway, much warmer than expected today. Maxed out at 71.5°F here in Bay Shore.

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Was looking at archives on foliagenetwork site, and I can't find a year since 1999 further along than right now at this point. Latest update has coastal locations into moderate - 30 to 61% change, which is definitely a solid week early. The pattern for foliage has been great the past month.

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Was looking at archives on foliagenetwork site, and I can't find a year since 1999 further along than right now at this point. Latest update has coastal locations into moderate - 30 to 61% change, which is definitely a solid week early. The pattern for foliage has been great the past month.

We are approaching peak right now up this way.. Anything above 1500' is probably at or slightly past peak.

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