HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 11 months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I have an outdoor wedding today and I feel bad for the bride. But, they have a huge tent and heaters so they will be fine. I'm babysitting for my sister as she's at our old neighbor's wedding at the Mt Washington Hotel today. At least the foliage will be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think Paul is going to streak the field today, the texts I've been getting are insane. I'm nervous to see him in person, he may be nude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hi Scort 40s FTL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 I'm babysitting for my sister as she's at our old neighbor's wedding at the Mt Washington Hotel today. At least the foliage will be nice. Nice place. The one nice thing about cloudy days, is that the color really pops with a grey background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Nice place. The one nice thing about cloudy days, is that the color really pops with a grey background. Yeah very true. Like Tamarack said in the NNE thread the trees seem to glow in this weather. Can't see much though as the ceiling is only a few hundred feet up, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Coldest day yet out there. 54. Very raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Today should be another under day for MOS in many areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Current view from Mt Washington Hotel, hoping it clears up for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 well add Sept to June as a negative departure month in my hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 by the way ECK and Radar mans paper is on the BOX homepage front page http://www.erh.noaa....er_Analysis.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 If we ever get a -10 or cooler people will die We haven't one of those since Jan 15th. The other four SNE sites haven't had one since June. OT: would be nice if the NWS climate pages computed the departures correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think Paul is going to streak the field today, the texts I've been getting are insane. I'm nervous to see him in person, he may be nude. I'm in the line for the bathroom. I fell in the bathroom and out flee out the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We haven't one of those since Jan 15th. The other four SNE sites haven't had one since June. OT: would be nice if the NWS climate pages computed the departures correctly. The dailies or monthlies? Is it rounding error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 by the way ECK and Radar mans paper is on the BOX homepage front page http://www.erh.noaa....er_Analysis.pdf There was an F0 near Boston that killed someone in 1958? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The dailies or monthlies? Is it rounding error? It's both. At first I thought it was a rounding issue, but that doesn't appear to be the case (unless they do it inconsistently). Since most NWS text products are auto-generated, I don't think it's due to manual entry or human error. An example of this is BDL on 9/24. BOX has the departure on the daily and monthly statements as -5 when it should be -6. Guess this is why they always denote the climate data is preliminary and not official on all their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We haven't one of those since Jan 15th. The other four SNE sites haven't had one since June. OT: would be nice if the NWS climate pages computed the departures correctly. Yeah we got one yesterday thanks to radiational cooling dropping us to 34F then clouds and drizzle kept us from going higher than 51F. I have no idea when the last one was up here though at MVL...it's been a long time I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 We haven't one of those since Jan 15th. The other four SNE sites haven't had one since June. OT: would be nice if the NWS climate pages computed the departures correctly. Its been a warm year....i mean i dont think its nothing more or nothing less.....bdr did have below avg 2nd half of the month...i understand the consecutive streak...just saying it looks like the worm might finally be turning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Where the heck has Cold Miser gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 It's both. At first I thought it was a rounding issue, but that doesn't appear to be the case (unless they do it inconsistently). Since most NWS text products are auto-generated, I don't think it's due to manual entry or human error. An example of this is BDL on 9/24. BOX has the departure on the daily and monthly statements as -5 when it should be -6. Guess this is why they always denote the climate data is preliminary and not official on all their products. I've seen times when it'll say the average mean temp for the day is 56F, the actual mean was 57F, but the departure is +2F...stuff like that. The departure not matching the difference between average and actual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Yeah we got one yesterday thanks to radiational cooling dropping us to 34F then clouds and drizzle kept us from going higher than 51F. I have no idea when the last one was up here though at MVL...it's been a long time I think. End of April for MVL with -11 and -12 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Is a monthly departure from average calculated on climate forms by averaging the departures each day, or does it just take the average of the high/lows for the month and compare that to the month's climate normal mean temperature? Not sure if that makes sense but I guess I'm asking if even the daily departures are off individually, could the monthly departure still be correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 End of April for MVL with -11 and -12 days. Yep that's a long time haha...thanks for looking that up dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 End of April for MVL with -11 and -12 days. Can you get ratio of -10 or +10 dailys for 2009? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I've seen times when it'll say the average mean temp for the day is 56F, the actual mean was 57F, but the departure is +2F...stuff like that. The departure not matching the difference between average and actual. Yeah the cases I'm referring to appear to be wrong. Going back to my example, a high of 67 normal high of 72 low of 42 and normal low of 49 means a mean of 54.5 and a normal mean of 60.5. That's -6 no matter how you slice it or round it. BOX shows the mean as 55 (correctly rounding up), and the normal mean as 60 (rounded down?) for a departure of -5. NCDC has it as -6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Can you get ratio of -10 or +10 dailys for 2009? above/below numbers for '09... BDL 29/30 BDR 15/22 BOS 24/29 BTV 34/32 CAR 39/31 CON 26/35 EWR 25/23 JFK 19/25 LGA 19/25 NYC 21/29 ORH 31/36 PVD 25/24 PWM 26/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 That should def be a -6 Wonder what is up with that...I never really check their math, but maybe I should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 above/below numbers for '09... BDL 29/30 BDR 15/22 BOS 24/29 BTV 34/32 CAR 39/31 CON 26/35 EWR 25/23 JFK 19/25 LGA 19/25 NYC 21/29 ORH 31/36 PVD 25/24 PWM 26/26 Wow....was that a cold year....alot had to do with the chilly summer...but as i recall correctly jfm was cold also in 09. Thank you for info...how do u find this stuff? Ur like yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I'm with Cvriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Good call by scooter with cloudy/cool day....no 70's for anyone.....bdr forcast high now is 62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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