Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Pics? I just did it after hearing of the little ice age en route. Pics at 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 CON will probably avg 1" in October for the 91-20 normals. ORH has 23.3" of snow in October since 2000 (they had 0.0" in the 1990s)...so they could achieve a 1.0" October 30 year average with another few minor events....but they are tough to get. CON got over 20" in that one storm...not sure what else they have gotten in this past decade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 PF taken literally meaning a flake shower I guess but it's rare in the area I defined and although I was vague I really did not mean non accumulationing cat paws, rather a visible trace. I figured you might have meant that instead of just snowflakes. I personally think a trace is sort of dubious because in the records it could mean an actually trace of white on the ground, or catpaws like you said, at 37F for a few minutes. All the while I'm arguing just for the sake of arguing cause that's what we do on here, lol, but I agree with you. I think there's accumulating Oct snows again this year outside of climo favored areas with the amount of cold that should be lurking in Canada. Lastly, you say I'm the 1% but let's not forget that SNE has seen snow before this area a few times recently. Last year of course, then the Foxboro snow, and there was a time you got 2" in Ginxville and I rembember that was before I had seen snow whatever year that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 If 91% of NNE averages a trace and 76% of all of New England, I bet the probability is higher than you think Ginxy. We are only talking a trace...that's like HubbDave at 1000ft getting a 37F 3-minute 8sm snow shower. Really doesn't seem all that hard to do towards the end of October at night in a seasonably chilly pattern. Even ORH near the Mass Pike latitude has a 50-50 shot at seeing flakes...it's just how I interpret the stats is that it's borderline likely (50%<) that NW interior spots at 800-1000ft+ see snowflakes in October. Accumulating snow is far different as snowman showed. Averaging a trace of snow for October is way different than expecting snow....if you got a trace one year out of 30, your average would be a trace. So the 76% is very deceptive...its not like 76% of the region should expect a trace. But the interior above 1,000 feet is about 50/50 and perhaps 2 out 3 in the really high spots in the Berkshires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Averaging a trace of snow for October is way different than expecting snow....if you got a trace one year out of 30, your average would be a trace. So the 76% is very deceptive...its not like 76% of the region should expect a trace. Ahhhhh so I lose....I thought that meant that they should get a trace in a climo normal season. IE expect a trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I am so lucky, I get to work outside in the spring summer and fall, and get paid to make big piles of snow in the winter. 70/66 After the autumnal weather it feels stanky, AC is on and feels wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ahhhhh so I lose....I thought that meant that they should get a trace in a climo normal season. IE expect a trace. How much is insurance on the lamborghini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 If 91% of NNE averages a trace and 76% of all of New England, I bet the probability is higher than you think Ginxy. We are only talking a trace...that's like HubbDave at 1000ft getting a 37F 3-minute 8sm snow shower. Really doesn't seem all that hard to do towards the end of October at night in a seasonably chilly pattern. Even ORH near the Mass Pike latitude has a 50-50 shot at seeing flakes...it's just how I interpret the stats is that it's borderline likely (50%<) that NW interior spots at 800-1000ft+ see snowflakes in October. Accumulating snow is far different as snowman showed. Going back to the traces in more detail... CT 32% (6/19) RI 17% (1/6) MA 62% (32/52) SNE 51% (39/77) NH 89% (33/37) VT 95% (35/37) ME 90% (53/59) NNE 91% (121/133) TOTAL 76% (160/210) It's not that crazy for 1/3rd of CT stations to expect at least a trace of snow in October when five of the six are located in the NW hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 LL needs something to do, grass not growing, leaves have not fell yet, dry grounds. Hope it snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Averaging a trace of snow for October is way different than expecting snow....if you got a trace one year out of 30, your average would be a trace. So the 76% is very deceptive...its not like 76% of the region should expect a trace. But the interior above 1,000 feet is about 50/50 and perhaps 2 out 3 in the really high spots in the Berkshires. I was confused about this when I first read it. Now I get it... I wonder if after last October (23" or therabouts between the 2 storms), if my 30 year avg is over 1". Maybe even 2 or so (not that I know what I got before 2009) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Going back to the traces in more detail... CT 32% (6/19) RI 17% (1/6) MA 62% (32/52) SNE 51% (39/77) NH 89% (33/37) VT 95% (35/37) ME 90% (53/59) NNE 91% (121/133) TOTAL 76% (160/210) It's not that crazy for 1/3rd of CT stations to expect at least a trace of snow in October when five of the six are located in the NW hills. Like Will said 1 trace in 30 years still averages a trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Love that we start talking snow again as it nears, bye bye warministas see ya in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 LL needs something to do, grass not growing, leaves have not falling yet, dry grounds. Hope it snows. >? Are you on the rag again? Perhaps its time to change your tampon...........grass is growing just fine, I will take lots of pics for you, actually looking at the webcams in vt the golf courses are lush and green.....I stop cutting here around the first week of November, want the last cut to be short so the lawn has resistance to winter burn. Leaves?? I leave that to Scooters El Salvadorians, I dont do that ****, I contract it out and make money, I am planting now, and hopefully after some rain this weekend I can plant a lot. Make sure to take your Midol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Love that we start talking snow again as it nears, bye bye warministas see ya in April. Just like last year? XXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 >? Are you on the rag again? Perhaps its time to change your tampon...........grass is growing just fine, I will take lots of pics for you, actually looking at the webcams in vt the golf courses are lush and green.....I stop cutting here around the first week of November, want the last cut to be short so the lawn has resistance to winter burn. Leaves?? I leave that to Scooters El Salvadorians, I dont do that ****, I contract it out and make money, I am planting now, and hopefully after some rain this weekend I can plant a lot. Make sure to take your Midol. Stay classy bro, nice. You live in a bizarro SNE area the anti Pete. I understand your microclimate. It's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I am so lucky, I get to work outside in the spring summer and fall, and get paid to make big piles of snow in the winter. 70/66 After the autumnal weather it feels stanky, AC is on and feels wonderful. No AC needed here 62F/59 A little muggy, but not bad at all Friday looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Just like last year? XXX You're gonna miss this You're gonna want this back You're gonna wish these days hadn't gone by so fast These Are Some Good Times So take a good look around You may not know it now But you're gonna miss this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Stay classy bro, nice. You live in a bizarro SNE area the anti Pete. I understand your microclimate. It's cool. Grass dormant in Moosup? LOL your mood swings lately are alarming, I am worried about you. I am playing golf at Mohegan on October 20th its my bro in laws bachelor party............should i expect dead brown grass??? Perhaps I should call him and tell him that grass does not grow in New England after Sept 1st:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 No AC needed here 62F/59 A little muggy, but not bad at all Friday looks great! Friday looks awesome! I am really looking forward to a cold rainy weekend, its been so long I have forgotten what its like. I think we are making some chili and perhaps some soups........should be epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 WTF? (2 posts above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Grass dormant in Moosup? LOL your mood swings lately are alarming, I am worried about you. I am playing golf at Mohegan on October 20th its my bro in laws bachelor party............should i expect dead brown grass??? Perhaps I should call him and tell him that grass does not grow in New England after Sept 1st:( What? Nice try, attack mode eh? Gotcha. I have not mowed my grass in two weeks, the landscapers at work mowed last week, skipped this week, little growth. Dormancy is different than dead but you troll I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 You're gonna miss this You're gonna want this back You're gonna wish these days hadn't gone by so fast These Are Some Good Times So take a good look around You may not know it now But you're gonna miss this I miss nothing, I live in it every single day, I live what people read 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 What? Nice try, attack mode eh? Gotcha. I have not mowed my grass in two weeks, the landscapers at work mowed last week, skipped this week, little growth. Dormancy is different than dead but you troll I understand. LOL This time of year is second only to spring for grass growth, perhaps Moosup is a special place. Perennial grasses thrive on cool nights and warm sunny days.........so spin your tune. If anything the dry conditions have slowed growth, check back in next week and I will be sure to take pics of Mohegan when I play next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 How did I get brought into this? Anyways, nevermind this October snow talk. What we really need is a November snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I miss nothing, I live in it every single day, I live what people read 4 Playing it all the way to the end BRIMLBAL, 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Playing it all the way to the end BRIMLBAL, 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 LOL This time of year is second only to spring for grass growth, perhaps Moosup is a special place. Perennial grasses thrive on cool nights and warm sunny days.........so spin your tune. If anything the dry conditions have slowed growth, check back in next week and I will be sure to take pics of Mohegan when I play next month. Pautipaug? Nice, good snow spot, nice hills there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Have folks been hitting the bottle during hump day already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 How did I get brought into this? Anyways, nevermind this October snow talk. What we really need is a November snow. THIS, I was lucky enough to be in Fort Washington Pa northern suburb of philly back in 2010, snowed on Turkey Day, about a half inch, you guys up here got the shaft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Like Will said 1 trace in 30 years still averages a trace Not sure that's how the normals work, but the numbers are not probabilistic and I think that's how many are reading into it. While only six stations in Connecticut have a normal October snowfall of at least a trace, 18 of 36 stations that were open at some point in the 1981-2010 normals period (not all get normals computed for them obviously) recorded at least one October of a trace or more of snow. Norfolk led the way with 19, followed by Bakersville with 7, Danbury with 5, Woodbury with 4, HFD and BDR with 3, Staffordville and Stamford with 2, and then a whole bunch of others with 1. Note some of these are skewed by period of record. Norfolk and Bakersville's raw average October snow is 0.7 and 0.2 inches respectively, so those work out pretty close to the normal values. * edited for the bolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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