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End of September/Early October banter/disco.


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The GFS has steadily backed off end of run cold for our area over the last 3 runs. Outside rain and possible northeast winds this weekend, the pattern is above normal, and possibly substantially above over the next 3 weeks.

These wonderful September days are awesome, chilly nights where folks radiate well, and warm sunny days like today, that are perfect for any outside activity. These next 6 weeks are as good as it gets to get outside and enjoy all the cool/warm weather activities, enjoy it!

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The GFS has steadily backed off end of run cold for our area over the last 3 runs. Outside rain and possible northeast winds this weekend, the pattern is above normal, and possibly substantially above over the next 3 weeks.

These wonderful September days are awesome, chilly nights where folks radiate well, and warm sunny days like today, that are perfect for any outside activity. These next 6 weeks are as good as it gets to get outside and enjoy all the cool/warm weather activities, enjoy it!

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The TORCH returns....

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I believe u said torch for September also....what do u feel for oct?

Yes early September was a torch, I am sure you remember.........nice cool down the last ten days, weather has been awesome don't you think? I have truly enjoyed it, and looking forward to some pleasant weather in October, what are your thoughts, I lay mine out on the line every month in the contest how about you?

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The GFS has steadily backed off end of run cold for our area over the last 3 runs. Outside rain and possible northeast winds this weekend, the pattern is above normal, and possibly substantially above over the next 3 weeks.

These wonderful September days are awesome, chilly nights where folks radiate well, and warm sunny days like today, that are perfect for any outside activity. These next 6 weeks are as good as it gets to get outside and enjoy all the cool/warm weather activities, enjoy it!

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sunny cobalt blue skies with a delightful sw wind

Not sure I understand how/why this conclusion is derived (bold).

The predominating correction tendency has been (-) in the NAO domain for a long while - why stop now? And, the PNA has had a negative bias at the agencies that compute that index during the current era. Compensating for those 2 factors is risky, but all else being unfair in the art of climate prediction I'd say in the least a good place to start is to correct for immediately known errors/biases. Doing so suggests that the NAO stays more neutral or beneath, and the PNA doesn't get as negative. That all points to keeping heights lower in S-SE Canada.

We probably also should not be using the 300 hour range GFS beyond muse or entertainment, so saying "end of run" in the context of 'yeah, so no cool' is less than useful.

For what it is worth my personal belief is that we have broken the 12-20 month, "above average at least excuse imaginable" type ordeal with the governing synoptics. There are environmental variables out there that have vectors toward cool. During this autumn - now through Dec 1, I believe that the predominating -NAO will become more of a player in directing our areas temperature anomaly distribution, just to name one.

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Yes early September was a torch, I am sure you remember.........nice cool down the last ten days, weather has been awesome don't you think? I have truly enjoyed it, and looking forward to some pleasant weather in October, what are your thoughts, I lay mine out on the line every month in the contest how about you?

Spin. Dramatic pattern change in the feel since around 9/9. Managed to cancel above normals for most of the area. And some or all of the big 4 will come in below in September. October is up for grabs.

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Right salvages means salvage outdoor plans..Drizzle along the coast..cloudy and chilly inland..while i head to KBUF and get ripped.

WHat do you think about a wet Friday?

Friday looks wet right now. Could be a decent soaking. As far as Saturday goes...even inland..it could be lousy. I suppose if the low kicked out further east a couple of breaks could develop. Maybe some showers for BUF Sunday?

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Spin. Dramatic pattern change in the feel since around 9/9. Managed to cancel above normals for most of the area. And some or all of the big 4 will come in below in September. October is up for grabs.

Jerry the dramatic change in feel might yield something close to normal, with the possibility of an above normal October, and some thinking well above november. I guess if getting back to normal is the new below or if a -0.5 is well below than thats fair. Perhaps we have been so far above for so long, that anything below feels great, and renewed sense of possibilities for this coming winter.

I dont know, and personally dont care, the weather will do what its going to do. I see nothing in the next 5 to 6 weeks that points to a long duration below normal regime. +1 is normal to me just as -1 is, I dont see anything extreme in the future, but I guess just getting back to normal this winter would be a huge victory to most, then again the winter before was so cold and snowy, it all evens out in the end.

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Friday looks wet right now. Could be a decent soaking. As far as Saturday goes...even inland..it could be lousy. I suppose if the low kicked out further east a couple of breaks could develop. Maybe some showers for BUF Sunday?

Think I can sneak in a dry, semi sunny weekend in KBUF with temps near 60..Perfect for brews, brats, burgers and boobs

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Euro never really breaks down the +PNA...it tries to but then reloads quickly. The +NAO keeps a gradient though....its gonna be cold right up near the Canadian border and northern plains perhaps and getting into our region where the most uncertainty lies.

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So is everyone else lol. The Euro op has been cold day 9-10 for weeks now, I will believe it when it happens.

Really? I recall most of the runs in the last few days in that time range to be warm. Today's run is just a brief shot of cold anyways, but most of Canada goes well below normal for d7-10.
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Saturday could be one of those days with WAA aloft and NE winds at the surface. Translation...maybe sheet drizzle/rain at times...especially at the coast. I hope not, but I could see that.

High pressure off Nova Scotia and low pressure to our south is generally a recipe for E to NE moist flow. The gradient is not that strong so perhaps far enough inland might salvage decent weather...but at the very least, most of eastern NE would probably be socked in.

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Really? I recall most of the runs in the last few days in that time range to be warm. Today's run is just a brief shot of cold anyways, but most of Canada goes well below normal for d7-10.

Ok, so what is the consensus for sne for at least the first half of October and a Wag at the entire month? Perhaps I am reading things incorrectly, looks above normal to me with interludes of cooler air.

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