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Weenie snowstorm on the 18z GFS at hour 336.

This one looks like fun:

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The good news is that the pattern continues to remain active with coastal threats. One before Thanksgiving which holds legs on all models, and a couple shots at fantasy storms. You can see the big high pressure up by the Alaska and Yukon which should start bringing colder air into Canada thanks to the Aleutian ridge.

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This one looks like fun:

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The good news is that the pattern continues to remain active with coastal threats. One before Thanksgiving which holds legs on all models, and a couple shots at fantasy storms. You can see the big high pressure up by the Alaska and Yukon which should start bringing colder air into Canada thanks to the Aleutian ridge.

Also check out the high pressures by Greenland and the Davis Straight.

Not a bad pattern at all on the GFS long range, though that can easily change next run.

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TTN Below...Nuff said.

2011-11-01 58* 38* 0* 0*

2011-11-02 60* 33* 0* 0*

2011-11-03 63* 36* 0* 0*

2011-11-04 57* 40* 0* 0*

2011-11-05 53* 33* 0* 0*

2011-11-06 56* 31* 0* 0*

2011-11-07 65* 34* 0* 0*

2011-11-08 73* 43* 0* 0*

2011-11-09 67* 39* 0* 0*

2011-11-10 65* 46* 0.03* 0*

2011-11-11 48* 39* 0* 0*

2011-11-12 59* 33* 0* 0*

2011-11-13 63* 36* 0* 0*

2011-11-14 71* 51* 0* 0*

2011-11-15 66* 56* T* 0*

2011-11-16 58* 53* 0.56* 0*

2011-11-17 53* 39* T* 0*

2011-11-18 46* 34* 0* 0*

2011-11-19 54* 32* 0* 0*

2011-11-20 65* 42* T* 0*

2011-11-21 57* 49* 0.19* 0*

2011-11-22 52* 45* 1.73* 0*

2011-11-23 60* 42* 0.65* 0*

2011-11-24 57* 33* 0* 0*

2011-11-25 63* 36* 0* 0*

2011-11-26 68* 35* 0* 0*

2011-11-27 65* 37* 0* 0*

2011-11-28 73* 51* 0* 0*

2011-11-29 69* 51* 0.81* 0*

2011-11-30 51* 44* 0* 0*

AVG/TOT 60.5 40.4 3.97 0

Your eyes aren't deceiving you...here's 2011 for comparison.

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Like the Knicks good starts, I'm not yet convinced about the weather pattern going forward. Last winter left a disgusting feeling in my mouth and any changes for the better are still way out there in the longer ranges,which is never a good thing. At least we won't be torching though, looks fairly seasonable for the next several days.

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Like the Knicks good starts, I'm not yet convinced about the weather pattern going forward. Last winter left a disgusting feeling in my mouth and any changes for the better are still way out there in the longer ranges,which is never a good thing. At least we won't be torching though, looks fairly seasonable for the next several days.

Some *really* thought the '87 Brewers were going to win it all..

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Buffalo with just a trace of snow on the season...Marquette with just 8.7" (about 60% of normal year to date)....those are not good signs (indicative of a lack of sufficiently cold air masses dropping out of Canada) but lake effect #'s can change very quickly. I remember when lake effect began in October. Reliably.

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Buffalo with just a trace of snow on the season...Marquette with just 8.7" (about 60% of normal year to date)....those are not good signs (indicative of a lack of sufficiently cold air masses dropping out of Canada) but lake effect #'s can change very quickly. I remember when lake effect began in October. Reliably.

Basically no snow on the ground anywhere in NY or New England...last year, it took until the last couple of days of December to get snow on the ground along the Vermont / Canadien border...truly a remarkable occurrence.

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WTF are you crying about? Snow in Barfalo? It's the synoptic desert...if it's snowing there, it's probably not snowing in the NYC metro. We have been able to maintain average to below average temps around these parts without any Arctic airmasses dropping SE. That is saying a lot for us. Buffalo not seeing appreciable snow this early is really meaningless. As I have said again and again, bitter cold Novembers do not help anyone on the NYC board. Avoiding blowtorch is vital...seeing signs of continued blocking and future blocking in the second half of November is good....but highs in the 30s in NYC and Buffalo snow do not help things.

Buffalo with just a trace of snow on the season...Marquette with just 8.7" (about 60% of normal year to date)....those are not good signs (indicative of a lack of sufficiently cold air masses dropping out of Canada) but lake effect #'s can change very quickly. I remember when lake effect began in October. Reliably.

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WTF are you crying about? Snow in Barfalo? It's the synoptic desert...if it's snowing there, it's probably not snowing in the NYC metro. We have been able to maintain average to below average temps around these parts without any Arctic airmasses dropping SE. That is saying a lot for us. Buffalo not seeing appreciable snow this early is really meaningless. As I have said again and again, bitter cold Novembers do not help anyone on the NYC board. Avoiding blowtorch is vital...seeing signs of continued blocking and future blocking in the second half of November is good....but highs in the 30s in NYC and Buffalo snow do not help things.

It was an observation (in conjunction with the other post) on the general progression of winter in the eastern US...but thank you so much for the climate lesson. Without your tutorial on lake effect snow, I would have never known...<rolls eyes>

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WTF are you crying about? Snow in Barfalo? It's the synoptic desert...if it's snowing there, it's probably not snowing in the NYC metro. We have been able to maintain average to below average temps around these parts without any Arctic airmasses dropping SE. That is saying a lot for us. Buffalo not seeing appreciable snow this early is really meaningless. As I have said again and again, bitter cold Novembers do not help anyone on the NYC board. Avoiding blowtorch is vital...seeing signs of continued blocking and future blocking in the second half of November is good....but highs in the 30s in NYC and Buffalo snow do not help things.

You seem really angry at times....and that outburst you had about the leaves and the snow was a little odd...we were about 90% down by the time that snow started falling.....William was just posting about the lack of real cold air this fall....no need to jump down his throat

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You seem really angry at times....and that outburst you had about the leaves and the snow was a little odd...we were about 90% down by the time that snow started falling.....William was just posting about the lack of real cold air this fall....no need to jump down his throat

foliage and william always bring out the worst in people.

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WTF are you crying about? Snow in Barfalo? It's the synoptic desert...if it's snowing there, it's probably not snowing in the NYC metro. We have been able to maintain average to below average temps around these parts without any Arctic airmasses dropping SE. That is saying a lot for us. Buffalo not seeing appreciable snow this early is really meaningless. As I have said again and again, bitter cold Novembers do not help anyone on the NYC board. Avoiding blowtorch is vital...seeing signs of continued blocking and future blocking in the second half of November is good....but highs in the 30s in NYC and Buffalo snow do not help things.

This was a disproportionate response to a rather innocuous observation.

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My man...how r u? We did well with the snow the other day....Middlesex has been okay to snow lovers

that snow really made me want more snow. standing in the heavy falling dendrites last week reminded me why i friggin love snowstorms.

middlesex county has done well.... but i think that's because we're next to monmouth county. lol. wtf with monmouth county? i feel like if i lived 12 miles further southeast i would have seen 3ft. more snow in the last 5 years.,

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