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...looks fine.

if you want a "weather game"..checkout sunday nite..the

packers are home and looks like snow will be around the green bay

area..

It'll definitely be fine for me. I'll be watching the game at Jack Flats a block off of Duval Street in Key West, FL lol. :popcorn::lmao::sun:

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Are you really looking at that right now? The point of the map was to show everyone that the models have a stormy period ahead.

Is it really good to have a coastal storm with no benefits and many downsides? There's still recovery efforts from Sandy, you know.

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At least it would be a strong storm, but its just a fantasy. The weather is oh so boring lately.

Didn't you have Sandy? Followed by a early November snowstorm, the largest for so early in the season?

Relax, the weather isn't always gonna be exciting. Be glad you don't live out here ;)

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Is it really good to have a coastal storm with no benefits and many downsides? There's still recovery efforts from Sandy, you know.

Who is even saying that there will be a coastal storm anyway? The pattern on the GFS, GGEM and now the euro is a west to east pattern.( Gradient )

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Late season east coast hurricane strike. Early season record snow. Warm dec with the constant drum beat of a pattern change , never to materialize I've seen ths before. I just can't remember when. That trough is in the west is the king and If u don't dislodge it nothing will usurp its dominance I've seen day 10 model runs and 15 day ensemble runs look promising many times But they havent had a good handle to this point. I hope this changes after the 20 th but I'm suspicious.

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Look, everyone and their mother said that there were signs on the wall last season at this time that things would change.. They never did- or if they did- it was very miniscule... If a strong AK polar vortex establishes itself it's game over for quite some time. Perhaps we're saved by a change by late in the winter..

But the similarities to last year are chilling to say the least.. Maybe not synoptically - but at the end of the day- the outline of events over the past few months are rather similar.. Hurricane, early season snowfall and now a warm start to December with hints of change way in the future only to be pushed further out into the future.

It's hard to bet on cold and snow at this point.. Until large synoptic changes begin to appear in the near term on the model- say 4-6 days out, I can't see making a forecast predicting that things will change anytime soon.. I hope I am wrong!

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Late season east coast hurricane strike. Early season record snow. Warm dec with the constant drum beat of a pattern change , never to materialize I've seen ths before. I just can't remember when. That trough is in the west is the king and If u don't dislodge it nothing will usurp its dominance I've seen day 10 model runs and 15 day ensemble runs look promising many times But they havent had a good handle to this point. I hope this changes after the 20 th but I'm suspicious.

Agreed. Eerily similar feeling to last year.

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"Models all over the place today. That means changes are a foot. This is text book model mayhem that will have many METS jumping back and forth until the models lock in on what's happening at the stratospheric levels and with tropical convection. Back and forth, back and forth. I'm standing my ground on this forecast I had since early November because thus far every observation I see is right to where I thought we would be. The idea of a super cold December was never mine so I feel no need to justify that forecast. Slow and steady change. That's the forecast and that's what I'm sticking with. Progressively colder and stormier, not snowier though."
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Steve D:

"Progressively colder and stormier, not snowier though."

Since there has been no recent snow, and he asserts it will not <be> snowier; he is thus essentially calling for no snow in the mid range...which makes it all rather pointless...

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Steve D:

"Models all over the place today. That means changes are a foot. This is text book model mayhem that will have many METS jumping back and forth until the models lock in on what's happening at the stratospheric levels and with tropical convection. Back and forth, back and forth. I'm standing my ground on this forecast I had since early November because thus far every observation I see is right to where I thought we would be. The idea of a super cold December was never mine so I feel no need to justify that forecast. Slow and steady change. That's the forecast and that's what I'm sticking with. Progressively colder and stormier, not snowier though."

Though the commentary could get an award for most cliches in one paragraph...

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Since there has been no recent snow, and he asserts it will not <be> snowier; he is thus essentially calling for no snow in the mid range...which makes it all rather pointless...

What delta do u give that not one inch of snow falls by DEC 31 cpk right now i am 60 delta

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