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2012 Fall Banter Thread


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History on our side...greatest NYC November snowstorm also took place on the 27th...(well, the 26th and the 27th in 1898)...10 inches...Brentwood, L.I. saw 18 inches...Bridgeport, CT saw 2 feet.

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Climo not on our side...2 events in November >3 in.? Very unlikely. This will be a mix-bag event over to rain. Real fun starts during the Dec. 5-10 period. Another potential storm Dec. 20-28?

History on our side...greatest NYC November snowstorm also took place on the 27th...(well, the 26th and the 27th in 1898)...10 inches...Brentwood, L.I. saw 18 inches...Bridgeport, CT saw 2 feet.

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Climo not on our side...2 events in November >3 in.? Very unlikely. This will be a mix-bag event over to rain. Real fun starts during the Dec. 5-10 period. Another potential storm Dec. 20-28?

That November there were actually 3 events....3" on the 24th...10" on the 26th & 27th and 6 more inches on the 29th.

If the track stays offshore and the high over Quebec more or less holds...should be mainly snow over the interior....for NYC, LI and eastern Jersey...could go either way.

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23 Years Ago Tomorrow...perhaps the greatest November snowstorm to hit the area in the 2nd half of the 20th century...November 23, 1989:

Some Storm totals:

Connecticut:

Bridgeport: 6.6"

Groton: 6.4"

Stamford: 5.0"

New York:

Bridgehampton: 10.0"

Riverhead: 8.5"

Dix Hills: 8.0"

Patchogue: 8.0"

Islip: 7.6"

Westbury: 7.2"

La Guardia: 6.1"

Dobbs Ferry: 5.3"

White Plains: 5.0"

Central Park: 4.7"

Yorktown Heights: 4.5"

JFK: 3.7"

New Jersey:

New Brunswick: 6.1"

Atlantic City: 6.0"

Newark: 5.7"

Plainfield: 5.0"

Oak Ridge Reservoir: 3.5"

Charlotteburg Reservoir: 3.0"

Thanks for new brunswick love

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"Overall, I expect winter 2012-13 to experience below normal and near normal readings across the eastern third of the United States, as well as central Ontario and central Quebec southward. Alaska and adjacent areas in Canada will likely wind up colder than normal. The Pacific Northwest will likely experience near normal temperatures for the winter. The remainder of the U.S., along with northern Canada and Canada’s Atlantic Provinces will likely see warmer than normal readings. Northern Canada and the Desert Southwest could have the warmest anomalies.

Snowfall should return to near normal figures for the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, northern Mid-Atlantic, and southern New England regions. Unlike last winter, the potential exists for a Kocin-Uccellini-type snowstorm at some point during the winter on account of the blockiness."

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With the NAO an AO goin into the tank it argues for trough over the EAST , however the European keeps dumping the trough into the Gulf of Alaska .

DT may b on to something , we have a good setup forecasted for the next 10 - 15 days on the ensembles but its not translating into a favorable pattern for us .So he mayb right

Seeing good teleconnections go to waste ARE NEVER A GOOD SIGN .

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What happend I thought everyone was saying how good the pattern was going to be in December? I saw many post talking about how it looked like 2010 all over again and now im seeing post about how warm Dec is going to be. It's only a week away... So what's going on did all the models flip to a warm Dec now and what does the rest of the winter look like???

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What happend I thought everyone was saying how good the pattern was going to be in December? I saw many post talking about how it looked like 2010 all over again and now im seeing post about how warm Dec is going to be. It's only a week away... So what's going on did all the models flip to a warm Dec now and what does the rest of the winter look like???

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What happend I thought everyone was saying how good the pattern was going to be in December? I saw many post talking about how it looked like 2010 all over again and now im seeing post about how warm Dec is going to be. It's only a week away... So what's going on did all the models flip to a warm Dec now and what does the rest of the winter look like???

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It looks to me as if we have a chance of a little light snow on Friday night and possibly into Saturday as a little disturbance slides through our area. Also, it appears that there will be a chance of snow next Thursday. It looks like the front comes through on Wednesday and a disturbance will ride along this front and possibly throw some moisture back into our area after the front has passed by on Thursday, according to both the latest GFS and the Euro control run.

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